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Yeah, Josh Allen in his prime will make that job a priority job that is open. If new coach does not keep Joe Brady OC he will also become a hot name that is available.

I'm starting to feel the same way, like we're going to have to settle for leftovers. Of course, we could do the smart thing and hire JS and then an OC if Rees leaves. That might be the easiest and smartest way out.

Mike Pettine is available

What I think should have been obvious from the beginning is the Browns are not a desired destination for top HC candidates. There are and were much better situations available to them. Only if and when those avenues are exhausted would they consider coming here. When someone turns down an interview as your HC to accept a position as OC on another team that should tell people all they need to know.

The Browns HC job should be a covered posit.

You sign a 5 year contract
Get fired after 2
Get another job
Double dip for 3 years

To be fair, all the candidates interviewed by the Browns have had or are planning to have interviews with other teams. How the other teams view these candidates are anybody's guess. The younger guys, they are viewed as very intelligent coaches. The obvious question is can they lead a team. I am not worried about if they can build a staff. I am sure they have connections throughout the NFL and/or they do have veteran coaches that can vouch coaching with them.

You can look at it in a positive light, they are doing their due diligence on casting a wide net of coaches from various teams and backgrounds. They know Schwartz very well as being with the organization for a few years. I expect/assume they know what exactly JS wants and have gotten their feedback (positive or negative) about his feelings regarding interviewing other candidates.

You are late, lol. He just retired a few days ago.

We can do what (I believe) the Patriots did. They hired a placeholder (Jerod Mayo), and then dumped him when someone they were targeting became available. This offensive roster is going to be a mess for at least another year.

Per AI: "Hue Jackson is not currently an NFL head coach but is available and seeking opportunities."


I'm sure what we got last time wasn't the REAL Hue and it would be different this time.

"Won't the real Hue Jackson please stand up... please stand up... please stand up."

I was just checking the FA WR list, possible cuts and trade candidates and there is some talent if we can afford it.

Hire Schwartz and make him HC outright or co-HC with a title and promotion. Hope FO asks of itself "What has he achieved for us?" and also "What else is expected from him beyond where he is now?" He set the bar higher and managed more than any other part of this dumpster blaze. Build the roster around him. We can screw this up waiting to do interviews. What does he have? What does he bring? Build around that for next year. Stabilize the new roster and use his "badassery."

I keep seeing a point about it will be easy for JS to staff the team, and some kind of negative for Scheelhaase.

All these coaches will have no problem putting a staff together. I highly doubt a coach is going into an interview made zero plans for his staff. Then asks the front office if they know anyone to hire as his assistants, lol.


These coaches will bring usually someone(s) over from their previous place. Kevin brought over a few pieces from his Browns staff. The Rams have a really good/great coaching staff with an excellent HC. I would be happy if they grab a few coaches from them.

He may not have to ask them. They may tell him. When you get a young guy who hasn't even been an OC or DC before, or even a very limited time at either job, based on age and experience alone his connections aren't equal to an older, more experienced coach. He is looking for his first chance to step on a big stage. This makes it far more conducive to having control over him and his staff.

Reports are already leaking out that Haslam is demanding Schwartz stay on as DC. So he is already demanding he has control over half of the new HC's staff. I like the idea of Schwartz staying on as DC or even being named HC. But it makes it much harder trying to hire a new HC when you're dictating half of his coaching staff to him.

What I said really doesn't have to do with having issues building a staff.

I understand what you are saying, however most of what you said can either be countered or is based on a "possible" leak/rumor.

Anything is possibly a leak. But a leak is true. A rumor maybe or maybe not. That's certainly true. However when you have a pattern of behavior to base things on it tends to make this possibility much more plausible.

And you may make something up to counter what I said. Surely you're not suggesting that a passing game coordinator who has only coached in the NFL for short period of time has had the time to make the strong and vast connections someone who has been coaching in the league for many years have developed are you?

A leak is true? Teams "leak" things all the time. Psst...we REALLY like Travis Hunter. Next on X: Our sources are telling us that the Browns are leaning on drafting Travis Hunter at number two..
It's draft season...the king of "leaks"

"Surely you're not suggesting that a passing game coordinator who has only coached in the NFL for short period of time has had the time to make the strong and vast connections someone who has been coaching in the league for many years have developed are you?"

Sure, that is what I said or meant.


Make something up?

1. Ok, JS knows more people...who says they're available or wanting to coach with him.

2. Generalizing, it keeps being brought up that our roster/team sucks. Then it is said: Why would a top tier HC come here? Take that example and now say you are a top tier assistant coach that is buddies with JS...sure you are friends, but why would you come here when they suck? So you can get fired in a couple years?



There are other examples besides those. However, I know where this is going. No worries.

Those are rumors, not leaks. Here is what a leak is............

To "leak information" means to intentionally or unintentionally disclose, release, or expose confidential, sensitive, or private data to unauthorized individuals or the public. It involves breaking trust, where information meant to be secured is revealed. This can result from accidental human error, poor security measures, or deliberate, malicious sharing


For future reference, a question mark is used as a punctuation mark to ask you IF that's what you meant and not a statement CLAIMING that's what you meant.



You didn't make anything up. Those are questions and not statements. Once again a very simple mistake. If your options are limited and you really want a shot as a HC with having very little NFL coaching exprerence you would likely be more willing to take greater risks and less control to get that shot.

That's a statement.

As I stated before, no worries.