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I do not see going into this year with the current QB room as a viable plan.
DW needs no discussion we have seen him play and not play.
Gabriel and Sanders are later round selections that were drafted as projects. Low risk but also not regarded as solutions to the quarterback position.
That leaves free agency, trade and the draft if a quarterback is going to be added to the roster.
Trading for a quarterback is suspect because someone is ready to give up on a quarterback. Good quarterbacks are not traded often.
The draft this year has one guy who is considered a franchise type player.
We already have two quarterbacks who are later round picks on the roster. Bringing a third QB from later in the draft into the QB room seems redundant.
That leaves free agents. Willis seems like the best option IMO. I am not interested in the other guys who might be brought in.
I am not ready to hand the job to Sheduer, Gabriel, or DW. Willis adds competition with possible upside.
Willis on a two year deal seems like a good play. If we draft a guy in 2027 Willis or one of the others can act as a bridge.
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I do not see going into this year with the current QB room as a viable plan.
DW needs no discussion we have seen him play and not play.
Gabriel and Sanders are later round selections that were drafted as projects. Low risk but also not regarded as solutions to the quarterback position.
That leaves free agency, trade and the draft if a quarterback is going to be added to the roster.
Trading for a quarterback is suspect because someone is ready to give up on a quarterback. Good quarterbacks are not traded often.
The draft this year has one guy who is considered a franchise type player.
We already have two quarterbacks who are later round picks on the roster. Bringing a third QB from later in the draft into the QB room seems redundant.
That leaves free agents. Willis seems like the best option IMO. I am not interested in the other guys who might be brought in.
I am not ready to hand the job to Sheduer, Gabriel, or DW. Willis adds competition with possible upside.
Willis on a two year deal seems like a good play. If we draft a guy in 2027 Willis or one of the others can act as a bridge.
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For reasons pit laid out, especially the part about money he will get and our cap situation, it is highly unlikely Willis will be a Brown.
so you might as well forget that idea.
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Sanders and Gabriel are not getting paid much.
DW of course is getting paid.
$20 a year for two years from what I understand is doable.
No matter who they would sign as a free agent it would cost close to the same.
I don't know if they will do this? But from my POV they cannot just stay with what they have on the roster.
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I believe they can go with the QBs on the roster.
And I’m 90 per cent certain they will.
SS is going to get every chance to build on his rookie year. Gabriel is trade bait at best. Watson could get an opportunity to be the day 1 starter.
Forget Derek Carr, Malik and Cousins.
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Interesting to see the all in on SS - when statistically they performed at similar levels. Or Gabriel shaded it. Bear in mind that we all remember the big plays and pretty throws from SS - they stick in mind where as the stats just tell the real picture.... AND the competition that Gabriel faced (defences) was far superior to what SS faced.
We are kind of royally screwed. We aren't trading up to get Mendoza - it would take too much when the roster on offense is so depleted. Simpson and Nussmeier both would seem to fit Berry's track record of trying to find talent that was once considered high level and has since struggled. At the right slot in the draft I'd be happy with either one - but then you have 3 QB's all with "potential to improve".
I don't know which QB will prove to be NFL "ok" - but I would roll with Gabriel and Sanders. Trade back from 6 and pick up WR and OL... obviously in addition to building a questionable roster - Berry's Achilles heel in the draft appears to be OL and WR. Joy.
If we can't get a trade back to the middle of the 1st round and get a bounty for it - then pick Jordyn Tyson (or Tate) at 6 and then at 24 hopefully Kadyn Proctor or Monroe Freeling. . . . or if you want to flip that - Spencer Fano or Mauigoa at 6 and then hope Boston or Brazzell are available at 24.
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After Mendoza the other quarterbacks do not look much different than Shedeur.
Unless they trade Gabriel drafting a QB in this draft does not make much sense to me.
Unless they are sold on Simpson.
Trading back if possible makes more sense. Get another first rounder in 2027. There are more guys to choose from in 2027.
They could go with Sanders, Gabriel and DW. But I do not believe they will.
Willis is different from the others. Cousins, Wilson, Fields, they are known guys. Willis has more potential. There is a chance he could be more than average.
Two year deal leaves the door open. If he proves to be good and outplays Sanders. Then you might have your guy. If he doesn't then maybe Shedeur is better than expected.
If none work out you draft a guy from a bigger selection of prospects in the 2027 draft.
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I found this article awhile back: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2026-nfl-draft-who-best-qb-prospects-after-fernando-mendozaForget Mendoza and Simpson and look at some of these guys. There are more than a few who have better traits than either SS or DG...be it size, arm strength mobility, whatever. I'd like to take a flyer on either guy from CT or GT. If we are going to carry projects at QB, let's at least have one that has a special trait(s) that translates into success in the NFL.
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That is an Andrew Berry call.
Simpson might go in the mid first. The rest is up to the draft process.
Sanders and Gabriel are going into their second year.
DW is a veteran.
Willis is turning 27 in May and now has four years in the NFL.
He has gained enough experience now to find out what his true potential is. He came into the league from Liberty college and was drafted 85th overall. He hardly played with the Titans.
Started 3 games with GB. He either has learned and is now ready or he may never be ready? He played well when he played but has not played much.
Who knows what the Browns will do? Monken will have some say. We shall see.
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I agree Willie. I mentioned this weeks ago on one of my posts. Take a guy later in the draft that at least looks like an NFL QB. A guy with size and arm strength so we don't have to question those traits. Draft one of them to replace one of the rookies we have, probably Dillon, and go from there. Will he work out, who knows but he would at least have the traits you look for. In the meantime use our higher picks for the OL and WR positions.
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