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And after this season it was the HC and the ST's coach. The DC knew what was actually going on in the building so he left too.

You left out the part he tried to become head coach first part. That doesn't fit your agenda though!

Could you please translate that into English?

I suppose you couldn't possibly fathom that it was this FO and owner who called him in to be interviewed for the HC position. As they do with all people they interview for coaching positions. All he did was take the interview.

The media in the building said he told his staff if he does not get the head coaching job he is out and not coming back. He wanted the job. The Browns wanted him as DC. I do not dislike the hire they made at coach. Two things can be possible at the same time. I felt Schwartz performance deserved the promotion and am disappointed he did not get the job. That said I think they did hire a football guy that has won and had good offenses everywhere he has been. But to say Schwartz did not want to stay because of the FO is incorrect. He would have stayed with this FO if he would have got the Head Coaching job. He was upset and rightfully so that he did not get the promotion he deserved. He did a great job in Cleveland.

Do you have any quotes to back up those rumors or just basing it on here say alone? "Some guy said" isn't quite enough to state something as a fact. At least not for most people.

Once again I never made a comment about who they hired. Sometimes your imagination runs away with you. I said the coaching staff in terms of the HC and ST's coach paid the price for a GM that gave them a terrible roster and he still has his job. If both the GM and HC had been fired I would have been fine with it. But as it turns out many times, the coaching staff paid the price for a GM's weaknesses.

Just ask the Titans, Vrabel and the Patriots how that worked out for them. I'm not sure why people watch the same movie over and over again and still can't figure out the plot.

I don't disagree with you Andrew Berry should have been fired. I agree.

Why Berry wasn't fired is a matter of conjecture, but my take is he wasn't fired because of our last very good draft and some FA additions he made. Furthermore, he's probably the only one that will be able to maneuver us through our complicated cap situation. It might take a team of nuclear scientists to figure that out.

No, a numbers guy is a numbers guy. There are a lot of them out there. So you're saying he was kept to fix the clusterfudge cap mess he himself created?

Sounds like Haslam thinking.

Reality is, this is the work of Desean Watson's contract. Any good GM can Keep and improve 22 starting O and D players with the obstacles of large contracts. Problem here is, Berry doesn't have the longevity to bring in higher tier 3rd string, special teams specialists, because Watson's deal is eventually going to come into play. They had their shot 2-3 years ago with Watson's contract being pushed down the road. Now, they are setting up the roster to absorb the cost in 2027 so they don't have levity to sign better low end players and it is affecting the special teams lineup. Players signed in 2025-2027 will all be affected by Watson's endgame in 2027. Without a restructure (which I don't think is in play..does anyone want to see him here in 2027??) He is going to count $80.7M against the cap in 2026, then $50.4M against the 2027 cap, while on another teams roster. Unless there is another injury miracle, Watson is going to cost this team a lot of cap space over the next 2 years. Now, they are going to get some insurance relief on that $80.7M in 2026, but I don't think it has been released yet how much that is. We should know in the next 4 weeks or so as we get closer to the official start to the 2026 league year. It SHOULD be around $40M, but I don't know if anyone knows for sure yet.

I have a hard time seeing how our contract/cap issues right now are affecting the portion of the roster that's by-and-large made up of league-minimum salaries and late-round draft contracts. Coverage units, in particular....


I could see the argument if our specialists were letting us down, as those salaries are on the lower side... but they actually bright spots, overall.