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Re: What Now Pt. 2 bonefish #2133865 02/24/26 12:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 78,546 Smyrna, TN. P PitDAWG Legend
PitDAWG Legend P Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 78,546 Smyrna, TN.	The issue becomes the difference between good and bad options. Not every option means it's a good opportunity. Just "taking a stab at it" because you are desperate only complicates the matter and makes it worse. If they make a move at the QB position and it flops yet again it will be another black eye on this franchise and be money spent that could better have been spent elsewhere. Heed the warning sign. Proceed With Caution! Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach. #gmstrong

Re: What Now Pt. 2 MemphisBrownie #2133871 02/24/26 12:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 16,329 M Milk Man Legend
Milk Man Legend M Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 16,329	j/c… My hope is that Dom brings that beautiful rug with him to Berea.

Re: What Now Pt. 2 Bard Dawg #2133872 02/24/26 01:00 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 541 IrishDawg42 All Pro
IrishDawg42 All Pro Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 541	Originally Posted by bonefish It is about options. Berry and Monken have stated they intend to look around. Gino Smith is likely to be released. The Raiders are drafting Mendosa. They don't want to pay his $8m guaranteed money. Cousins has also been told he will be released by the Falcons. DW is now over 30. He has a twice torn Achilles. Once re-torn and with age it is way more likely to happen again. Gabriel does not appear to be in consideration as the starter. I cannot believe just based upon last years results with a four quarterback competition that the Browns are going to go into this year with only what they have. I have no idea where this all ends. Monken at least adds a different POV. They have to decide on a plan and a plan B. Originally Posted by Bard Dawg I agree, Irish. The people who want us to start marginal QBs and push for some miracle to turn a leftover on the roster into a starter and consistent winner astound me. Often they evidence a wait and see posture so we can see what we have. Often followed by opinions that we have enough if we just give them a chance to provide more of the same. I am not that curious. I am over the QB project we have embraced much too often. We need to draft one. The two we have each have drawbacks; I don't see either our starter. I will be patient while our new head coach builds a QB room that suits him. We need a fix here. Good luck at the combine. I agree with both of you. The future QB isn't currently on the team. The problem lies with options, there just aren't any viable ones for 2026. I see Monken trying to get what he can out of a combination of Watson and Sanders in 2026. We might add a Gino Smith if he just wants to prolong his career and comes cheap, but my guess is he will hold out until a team desperate enough calls him about a viable starting role. I don't see him being in a huge hurry. I think we have seen what Cousins is post injury. He is another one that the market will probably be pretty dry on, with good reason. Again, if he comes cheap as a stop gap, I wouldn't balk at the insurance. If none of that happens, I am fine with Gabriel being the 3rd QB. He isn't in the starter mix, I'm fairly certain of that. I think Monken came in saying he will get what he can out of the two others and evaluate at the end of 2026 season. I truly believe HIS next actual planned starter is in the 2027 draft. Doesn't mean we have to lie down and lose 17 games.

Re: What Now Pt. 2 bonefish #2133875 02/24/26 01:05 PM
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oobernoober Legend O Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 14,330 Cinci	I see what you're saying, but I'm running on the assumption that this current offensive rebuild is going to be done over mulitple off-seasons. For the QB position, we have to take our shot when it presents itself. This draft is garbage for QB (unless you're picking 1). FA is garbage for QB. Personally, I hope the org doesn't have any sort of appetite for squeezing water out of a stone when it comes to finding our next QB... at least until we've gotten a good foundation of supporting talent. "I'll take your word at face value. I have never met you but I assume you have a face..lol" -Ballpeen

Re: What Now Pt. 2 MemphisBrownie #2133879 02/24/26 02:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 17,138 Back in Atl. Ga. bonefish Legend
bonefish Legend Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 17,138 Back in Atl. Ga.	When Monken was going through the HC interview process I am sure he was asked about the current quarterbacks. Now that the staff is pretty much in place. Berry and Monken have to plot their course for the offense. Because the Browns select 6th and the projected first round QB number two at most. Their first due diligence is on Ty Simpson. They most likely could draft him 24th. I wonder what grade they will have on him? They also will have to evaluate the QB class of 2027. That draft will have Manning, Dante Moore, Julian Sayin, LaNorris Sellers, John Mateer, and maybe a few more. They may decide to go all in for that draft and go with Sanders for 2026. If so the draft will be telling. They may try to get as many first round picks in 27 as they can. Maybe they trade down twice? Berry and Monken will make the decisions that will determine how long they are employed by the Browns.

Re: What Now Pt. 2 Milk Man #2133881 02/24/26 03:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 19,724 Southern Shores of Lake Erie M MemphisBrownie OP Legend
OP MemphisBrownie Legend M Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 19,724 Southern Shores of Lake Erie	Originally Posted by Milk Man j/c… My hope is that Dom brings that beautiful rug with him to Berea. Too much squid ink, Dom. At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.

Re: What Now Pt. 2 bonefish #2133882 02/24/26 03:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 78,546 Smyrna, TN. P PitDAWG Legend
PitDAWG Legend P Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 78,546 Smyrna, TN.	Thus far most of Berry's decisions have had no direct impact on his employment or he would have been shown the door along with Stefanski. Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach. #gmstrong

Re: What Now Pt. 2 PitDAWG #2133884 02/24/26 04:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 17,138 Back in Atl. Ga. bonefish Legend
bonefish Legend Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 17,138 Back in Atl. Ga.	He did survive after this past season. However, I do not think he would have had the 25 draft not turned out so well. I think going forward Berry will be under close scrutiny.

Re: What Now Pt. 2 IrishDawg42 #2133890 02/24/26 09:49 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,418 Canton,Ohio DeisleDawg Hall of Famer
DeisleDawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,418 Canton,Ohio	Originally Posted by IrishDawg42 Originally Posted by DeisleDawg Originally Posted by IrishDawg42 Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan As much as we may have other needs .... if Caleb Downs is there at 6, I run his name to the podium. Love Downs, but that is just too rich for a safety. We have way too many needs on offense, with offensive players rated just as high. I think he would be ANOTHER staple in the defense, but I don't see him lifting this defense higher than they already were in 2025. The offense, well, there is no where to go but up... Totally disagree Jok may not play again Downs can play in the box many times lining up near the line of scrimmage His talent would be a great addition to the team needing a versatile guy His run defense is what the Browns need Put him in the big nickle and let the defense tear teams apart Not even a thought if I'm Berry Welcome to the Browns Mr Downs ! Look, I love Downs, I love a lot of Buckeyes in this draft and it isn't because I'm a Buckeyes fan, it's because they are some of the best players in the draft. We had a top 3 defense last year, JOK-Love this kid as an Irish fan and the fact he came to my beloved Browns...this defense didn't drop out of the top ten because JOK wasn't there. Was he missed (expletive) YES he was missed and will continue to be missed. He was a cornerstone player... Now, Schwessinger is a cornerstone player. Different type of player, same impact. This offense will continue to hold this amazing defense back unless you put players on the roster to bring it out of the gutter. A Carnell Tate or Chase Bisontis will impact this team as a whole more than Caleb Downs will... simply because either of them could help keep the defense off the field. If the other team isn't on the field to score points, then our defense will improve organically. I am on either path here, improve the WR room IMMENSELY and make some improvements on the O-line at the same time, or go all in on the O-line and add a weapon or two at WR, TE or RB in the middle rounds. Either way, it helps the QB room and the team as a whole. If we go all in on O-line, we need to trade down and get some more draft capital in either early stages of this draft or for 2027 in case we need to go get our guy at QB. I want this team to be ready to draft a QB in 2027.. right now, it isn't even close. **EDIT - Also, if you want to replace JOK, pay attention to the combine this week and take a look at Anthony Hill Jr. from Texas. This is a guy that can cover with the best safeties, but excels against the run in the box. Very athletic. What I disagreed about was what you said about being too rich for safety. I don't think so. The Browns have always struggled with stopping the run game. Ward was taken first round pick 4 as a corner. Yes there is a difference between the two. I like safety, because they are that last line of defense. And having a physical run stopping safety is something the Browns could really use. Most safeties play that 10, 11-15 yards back. Downs was playing up close to the line and ready. Like Polamalu. Wouldn't it be nice to have a player like that. Look at this year's Super Bowl. Defense on both teams, defense other than not great QB play was due to defense which won the game. I would love Tate, Has been my number one guy for the Browns to take. The Browns have struggled with drafting a number one WR. Tillman in round three has been probably the best if not Donovan People Jones who was a 6th round pick. I honestly don't know if Tate could impact the team more than Downs. Depends on who is QB and can make him a productive WR. Bisontis is a second or third round pick. No comparison to a Tate or Downs I understand as most fans know that O- line and WR's are priorities. But saying Downs is too rich ? I can't agree with that. I do appreciate your inputs, points and posts.

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