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The other thread got locked - while we are still ongoing with the 'War' .... there's stuff going on every day it seems, whether it's negotiations, threats, blockades or watching Chinese ships sail thru the blockade. Figure a new thread is warranted.

Question at this point - same as the original question/comment: What is the objective for the USA? Does anyone actually know? Does anyone think Trump knows? Or are we at a point Trump is trying to end this with no more loss of face and embarrassment, but he doesn't know how?


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If the USA applies the blockade to all countries attempting to move oil and gas out of the straits of hormuz, it will speed up the process to reach an agreement, imo.

If the USA chooses to make side deals for some counties, the blockaide will end up being a mess, imo.


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Disagree.

The USA isn't going to initiate or block a Russian, Chinese or Indian vessel. A Chinese vessel sailed thru after the announcement already. Saudi Arabia is getting antsi ... All Trump continues to do is prove the US is unstable and push former allies away while paving the way for China to look stable and a more attractive partner. Coming soon .... De-dollarization and loss of US $ power and influence

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Originally Posted by mgh888
Disagree.

The USA isn't going to initiate or block a Russian, Chinese or Indian vessel. A Chinese vessel sailed thru after the announcement already. Saudi Arabia is getting antsi ... All Trump continues to do is prove the US is unstable and push former allies away while paving the way for China to look stable and a more attractive partner. Coming soon .... De-dollarization and loss of US $ power and influence

At least that is what some hope for. This country is turning communist. Now you have states looking to make citizens pay "bail" before they can move out of state.


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According to you communists have been asking over forever. It seems as if that's what you call anyone and everyone who promotes helping people over big business.



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I promote helping both people and big business.

I am not for helping freeloaders. Screw them.


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Is that what you call the millions of people who live in states where wages are so low they receive government benefits? I would have thought at some point you would have gotten tired of your tax dollars paying corporate welfare but I guess not.

While corporations rake in billions your tax dollars pay for their employees benefits. You're paying for those profits. And then you call others communists?

I have a better idea. Maybe instead of "helping freeloaders" we just let their children starve and go homeless or build orphanages for millions of children? How does that sound to you?


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jc...

Iran declares Strait of Hormuz ‘completely open’ for remainder of truce

A 10-day pause in fighting between Israel and Iran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon could help pave the way for a deal with Tehran.

Updated 9:18 AM EDT, Fri April 17, 2026
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Here's the latest
• Strait of Hormuz: Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi says the vital trade chokepoint is now open to all commercial vessels for the remaining period of the truce, adding that this is in line with the Israel-Lebanon ceasefire.

• Ceasefire in effect: A 10-day truce in Lebanon appears to be holding despite the Lebanese army accusing Israel of violations. Israel said its forces would not withdraw from southern Lebanon, and Iran-backed Hezbollah warned it would only abide by the truce if Israeli attacks stopped.

• Diplomacy push: US President Donald Trump said a White House meeting between Israel and Lebanon could take place within two weeks. The conflict with Hezbollah has been a key sticking point in negotiations on the war with Iran. Trump also voiced confidence that a deal with Tehran will come soon, saying talks could happen this weekend.

• Israeli embassy: British police are investigating after an unnamed group said it would target the Israeli embassy in London with drones carrying dangerous substances.

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This news is made public just minutes before 'the markets' open.



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But a blockade on Iranian ports stays in effect........................

Live updates: Iran declares Strait of Hormuz 'completely open'; Trump says U.S. blockade 'will remain in full force' until peace deal

President Donald Trump hailed the news about the key waterway, and said negotiations over a peace deal with Iran "should go very quickly."

U.S. BLOCKADE REMAINS 'IN FULL FORCE': President Donald Trump hailed the news and thanked Tehran, but said the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports "will remain in full force" until the two sides reach a peace deal. Negotiations “should go very quickly," he said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/...rump-iran-talks-hormuz-summit-rcna332294


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Originally Posted by mac
This news is made public just minutes before 'the markets' open.


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