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I concur with your post Bone. I don't know how much he had to do with the Watson trade but he is the GM and he is culpable no matter. Those 3 #1's we lost were brutal. His last draft was awesome and if we have another one like that this year with Shedeur just playing decent, we can contend for the division IMO. I've stated in the past I like AB and I'm glad he didn't get fired. I felt the same about KS but it seemed a change at HC was warranted. We'll know in a week our new players and how we did at least on paper.

Stefanski was always going to be the fall guy for Berry's ineptitude.

Agreed, the Watson trade is his albatross, and yes the trade with JAX was big, a great draft last year - Gabriel, hopefully he is a legit GM, we will find out soon!

It's amazing that after years of coaching influence negatively effecting who we draft (and ownership too, no doubt), there are still people who clamor for it and want to undermine the front office staff.

Someone said "tackles are tackles"...

memp...tell everyone who that was.

IMO, Berry needs help judging OLine talent and hopefully Monken and his staff can help our GM out.

It was Berry. And he is right.

You should be very worried, Mac:

Todd Monken--

Memp...you left some important points out of the story...Monken also said...

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"Sure, it's important, the left tackle with the right-handed quarterback," Browns coach Todd Monken said during last month's AFC coaches breakfast at the NFL annual meetings. "But I know this, when [the Pittsburgh Steelers'] TJ Watt lines up on the right side, you'd feel a lot better if you had a really good right tackle. I mean, if we [the Baltimore Ravens] were playing Myles [Garrett] and he jumps over there, we're not going to jump. We weren't going to jump [Ravens left tackle] Ronnie Stanley over there. So you really need two tackles. Certainly the left side is critical."

Wills draft choice is proof that Berry's philosophy that a RT can play LT too...was proven wrong, by Berry himself. Some OTs are athletic enough to switch sides..some are not. We don't want to see Berry make another poor pick at OT and waste another high pick on a player that can't perform at a high level.

As Monken said..

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So you really need two tackles. Certainly the left side is critical."

I didn't add that because it is irrelevant to your claim.

Wills was a bust not because he couldn't play LT. He isn't with the team because of his injury history and he is lazy. His physical attributes showed he could absolutely play LT.

That assessment is exactly correct. There's a saying that you can't fix stupid. You can't fix laziness either.

If the owner and the FO depends on their HC to "negatively effect" who they draft, that's on them and I haven't seen any evidence that's what was happening. Only wild speculation.

"one of" is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in that sentence.

Andrew Thomas, Wills, Wirfs, and Mekhi Becton were the blue-chip tackle prospects in that draft.

Thomas was drafted in front of Cleveland, so he was already off the board. The remainder were available. We drafted Wills, TB drafted Wirfs, and Jets drafted Becton. Becton is playing fairly well, albeit at RG. Wirfs was the miss, but his draft profile also had him as a RT/LT guy.

Objectively speaking, the part of your statement is not true... and it makes even less sense within the context of the conversation.

It makes perfect sense to my argument though. Don't draft a player just because you are desperate for SOMEONE to fill a vacancy. This draft does not have a high value left tackle in it. There are those stating, "If you need a left tackle, these are the guys you need to draft and this is where they should go". It doesn't mean that is right.

What I can say about this draft class is this...

I LOVE Vega Ioane. He is the best offensive lineman in this draft and if I had to lay money on a bet of success, he would be the only one I would place a large bet on.
I LIKE Chase Biasontis and Emmanuel Pregnon, for where they are projected to be drafted. I would love to take a chance on Mauigoa, but with the #24 pick, which won't happen. I would like to take Kadyn Proctor, but at #39, where he belongs. Freeling, I just am not that interested in. Mainly because he is bound to be over-drafted because of his measurements at the combine. There are too many things I see on film telling me that I would be looking for his replacement in 2028. Same as Proctor, he would be worth a risk at #39, but the talent that will still be on the board at #24, I can't justify passing on them for what I think is a small chance of success.

I would much rather shore up the WR room, with someone like Boston or even Cooper Jr. I would rather go defense with someone like Thieneman, McCoy, McNeil-Warren, Hood or Faulk. Heck, I'd probably rather have Jadarian Price at RB over Freeling at #24.

I have very little faith in most of these offensive linemen. Take one and play them out of position and I can almost guarantee a bust.

This draft is full of talented WRs and defensive players. I don't like the TEs, O-Line or QBs on offense.

My opinion is that we will all be disappointed in this draft class as early as 2027 if they draft for need, and ignore WR at #6. I could change my tune on Thursday, but if reports are true, I'm not going to be all that happy.

I don't see any OT worth the #6 pick either. As I think you are suggesting some of them won't be there at the picks their actual value suggests they should be.

And there's a reason for that. A need at the position and a rarity of players with the skill set to be one of the top players at the position create such a demand they are what I call "over drafted". They get drafted ahead of where they should be drafted. It's really no different than what is commonly known as supply and demand. When the supply doesn't meet the demand the price of a commodity increases.

I'm not trying to advocate the Browns should use that mentality in the draft. Just trying to give the reasoning of why we see such things happen. I also see the need for a top shelf WR and believe that the Browns could get more bang for their buck in this draft at the WR position at #6 if Tate is still on the board. For me it's a better combination of need combining with value.