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One of my favorite WRs in this draft is Alabama WR Germie Bernard. He would be a great get in the 2nd round at #39. I do not see Bernard as a #1 type WR so I would like to pair him with say Ohio WR Carnell Tate at #6. A Tate/Bernard duo could be a really nice WR duo for years to come. Both are solid receivers that are good route runners. Tate is a much better 50/50 ball receiver and Bernard is a strong run after catch player. Both know how to get open and neither player is a Primadonna of a WR. Jeudy can continue to work in tandem with the rookies until they are ready to replace him.


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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
I agree. Remember Montario Hardesty? Lee Suggs? Courtney Brown? Our medical staff at that time cleared those players too and I'm sure there were a couple more. Stay away from injury prone players. WE have to make our picks count. JMO

I get the point you are making Home. Medicals are important.


About your examples: none of the current draft class was born when C. Brown was drafted except for maybe the Hawai'i kicker who is 27. Suggs was drafted in 2003 and Hardesty was drafted in 2010.

I am sure there are more current examples, just thought it was funny of the three picked. Haha

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I saw some clips of Tyson working out.

Impressive. No doubt he is a quick dude who will separate.

It will be interesting to see where he is drafted.

His medicals will the decider.

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I can get on board with the medicals, but the history is still there to make me hesitant. I would be ok drafting him if he is medically clear to play TODAY, but not at 6. I need more reassurance than today's medical report.

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If teams feel comfortable with his medicals, I think he'll be the #1 WR taken. It is a big risk, though.


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Teams have to trust their doctors.

They don't have the expertise to do otherwise.

I want the receiver at six.

Tate is my first choice.

But if they took Tyson I would be ok because they know if there is risk or not.

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Everyone is talking about the drops issue with KC Conception while ignoring that Tyson had some drop issues as well


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Originally Posted by bonefish
Teams have to trust their doctors.

They don't have the expertise to do otherwise.

I want the receiver at six.

Tate is my first choice.

But if they took Tyson I would be ok because they know if there is risk or not.

People heal from injuries. Being healthy "today" doesn't change the fact, as I have shown, that having one major knee injury makes you more "at risk" to have a second one.

The evidence is clear and irrefutable on that. I'm not sure what part of that people are missing.


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No two players or injuries are the same.

If the Browns draft Tyson then they feel he is worth whatever is the risk.

I don't think you or I are doctors.

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Bone I usually agree with most of your takes on this board but this time I have a small disagreement. My contention on this topic of injuries is that if a college player has already had injuries the chances are very high that he will have them in the NFL simply because the players are bigger, faster and stronger. There are exceptions to the rule but in this case I feel strong in my opinion.

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I understand.

Tate is my pick because there are no negatives.

However, the doctors on teams are specialists. They are paid lots of money for their views.

If they have concerns then you listen. If they don't have concerns you listen.

There will be other considerations obviously.

My hope is Berry is right one way or the other.

Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
No two players or injuries are the same.

If the Browns draft Tyson then they feel he is worth whatever is the risk.

I don't think you or I are doctors.

I know I'm not. That's why I posted the evidence from those who have studied the statistics and are qualified to do so.

What doctors can do is look at how healthy he is now. They can't predict the future. Statistical studies can show the likelihood of repeat injuries..........................

Yes, having an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury significantly increases the risk of a second ACL injury, either to the same knee (graft rupture) or the opposite knee (contralateral tear)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9206613/

This is from the National Institute of Health

Now that is the risk for a standard ACL tear. Here is the actual extent of the injury Tyson sustained............

Jordyn Tyson suffered a very severe multi-ligament knee injury to his left knee in 2022 while at Colorado, which included a torn ACL (anterior cruciate ligament), MCL (medial collateral ligament), and PCL (posterior cruciate ligament).

I get it. For some reason you think the Browns medical staff can predict the future and that even these proven facts mean nothing. I get it. And let's just forget about these injuries too....

2024: Broken collarbone (missed final two games)
2025: Hamstring strains to both legs (missed final three games)

Luckily both of those injuries came late in the season so it wasn't as devastating to his team as they very well could have been.

I'm not sure how much more clear this picture can be. I wouldn't be alright with this pick and I have all the evidence in the world as to why.


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Tyson is too much of a risk for me with either one of our 1st round picks. I'm definitely in agreement with passing on him. Too many other good WRs with no injury concerns. Now if we used a 3rd round pick or higher I wouldn't have a problem, but we all know that would never happen.

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Originally Posted by Jester
Everyone is talking about the drops issue with KC Conception while ignoring that Tyson had some drop issues as well

Because his drop rate in 2024 was 8.4%, he worked on that and it dropped to 1.6% in 2025. He fixed the issue.

Concepcion's drop rate did improve to 10% in 2025, up from 11.7% in 2024.

We are talking about two different ends of the spectrum in 2025. Tyson's seems to be resolved.

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This isn't something I'm predicting because drafts are far too difficult to read all of the tea leaves. But I could see a scenario where Tyson could be the third WR selected behind both Tate and Lemon due to his injury history.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
Jordyn Tyson just did his workout.

Lots of teams including Cleveland were there. He was impressive.

He will be a serious consideration if the medical staff is comfortable with his injury history.
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Pete Thamel of ESPN quoted a source at the workout as saying, “He showed the twitch, explosiveness and leaping ability we all saw in the fall. He showed he’s healthy and still explosive, which is all he needed to do.”

Matt Miller of ESPN reports that Tyson ran 20-25 routes and dropped one pass. Tyson did not do any other on-field testing.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...-round-draft-status-in-front-of-20-teams


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I watched Steve Smith breakdown tape of Ted Hurst.

Damn, he looks good.

Lots to like with him.

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I do like Ted Hurst. I haven’t dove quite as far into him.. I haven’t found the reason he is being projected as a 3rd round pick. Anyone have any insight?

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Chris Brazelle from Tennessee looks pretty good too. Definitely has the size and speed. There is an issue with concentration drops but at 6'4" 200 lbs with 4.37 speed he might be a guy to look at. I also like Ted Hurst.

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Joel Klatt just put out his mock and talked about how much the Giants like TYson.
He has them taking him at 10 but said don't be surprised if they take him at 5

I am not a Ted Hurst fan, I think he gets over rated
Great size and speed numbers but against that competition he should have been more dominating IMO
The small school guy I like better is Skyler Bell Wr UCONN


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Make sure to check out the insane catch he makese against Syracuse at the 1:30 mark

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