One of my favorite WRs in this draft is Alabama WR Germie Bernard. He would be a great get in the 2nd round at #39. I do not see Bernard as a #1 type WR so I would like to pair him with say Ohio WR Carnell Tate at #6. A Tate/Bernard duo could be a really nice WR duo for years to come. Both are solid receivers that are good route runners. Tate is a much better 50/50 ball receiver and Bernard is a strong run after catch player. Both know how to get open and neither player is a Primadonna of a WR. Jeudy can continue to work in tandem with the rookies until they are ready to replace him.
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I agree. Remember Montario Hardesty? Lee Suggs? Courtney Brown? Our medical staff at that time cleared those players too and I'm sure there were a couple more. Stay away from injury prone players. WE have to make our picks count. JMO
I get the point you are making Home. Medicals are important.
About your examples: none of the current draft class was born when C. Brown was drafted except for maybe the Hawai'i kicker who is 27. Suggs was drafted in 2003 and Hardesty was drafted in 2010.
I am sure there are more current examples, just thought it was funny of the three picked. Haha
I can get on board with the medicals, but the history is still there to make me hesitant. I would be ok drafting him if he is medically clear to play TODAY, but not at 6. I need more reassurance than today's medical report.
But if they took Tyson I would be ok because they know if there is risk or not.
People heal from injuries. Being healthy "today" doesn't change the fact, as I have shown, that having one major knee injury makes you more "at risk" to have a second one.
The evidence is clear and irrefutable on that. I'm not sure what part of that people are missing.
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Bone I usually agree with most of your takes on this board but this time I have a small disagreement. My contention on this topic of injuries is that if a college player has already had injuries the chances are very high that he will have them in the NFL simply because the players are bigger, faster and stronger. There are exceptions to the rule but in this case I feel strong in my opinion.
If the Browns draft Tyson then they feel he is worth whatever is the risk.
I don't think you or I are doctors.
I know I'm not. That's why I posted the evidence from those who have studied the statistics and are qualified to do so.
What doctors can do is look at how healthy he is now. They can't predict the future. Statistical studies can show the likelihood of repeat injuries..........................
Yes, having an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury significantly increases the risk of a second ACL injury, either to the same knee (graft rupture) or the opposite knee (contralateral tear)
Now that is the risk for a standard ACL tear. Here is the actual extent of the injury Tyson sustained............
Jordyn Tyson suffered a very severe multi-ligament knee injury to his left knee in 2022 while at Colorado, which included a torn ACL (anterior cruciate ligament), MCL (medial collateral ligament), and PCL (posterior cruciate ligament).
I get it. For some reason you think the Browns medical staff can predict the future and that even these proven facts mean nothing. I get it. And let's just forget about these injuries too....
2024: Broken collarbone (missed final two games) 2025: Hamstring strains to both legs (missed final three games)
Luckily both of those injuries came late in the season so it wasn't as devastating to his team as they very well could have been.
I'm not sure how much more clear this picture can be. I wouldn't be alright with this pick and I have all the evidence in the world as to why.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Tyson is too much of a risk for me with either one of our 1st round picks. I'm definitely in agreement with passing on him. Too many other good WRs with no injury concerns. Now if we used a 3rd round pick or higher I wouldn't have a problem, but we all know that would never happen.
This isn't something I'm predicting because drafts are far too difficult to read all of the tea leaves. But I could see a scenario where Tyson could be the third WR selected behind both Tate and Lemon due to his injury history.
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Lots of teams including Cleveland were there. He was impressive.
He will be a serious consideration if the medical staff is comfortable with his injury history.
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Pete Thamel of ESPN quoted a source at the workout as saying, “He showed the twitch, explosiveness and leaping ability we all saw in the fall. He showed he’s healthy and still explosive, which is all he needed to do.”
Matt Miller of ESPN reports that Tyson ran 20-25 routes and dropped one pass. Tyson did not do any other on-field testing.
I do like Ted Hurst. I haven’t dove quite as far into him.. I haven’t found the reason he is being projected as a 3rd round pick. Anyone have any insight?
Chris Brazelle from Tennessee looks pretty good too. Definitely has the size and speed. There is an issue with concentration drops but at 6'4" 200 lbs with 4.37 speed he might be a guy to look at. I also like Ted Hurst.
Joel Klatt just put out his mock and talked about how much the Giants like TYson. He has them taking him at 10 but said don't be surprised if they take him at 5
I am not a Ted Hurst fan, I think he gets over rated Great size and speed numbers but against that competition he should have been more dominating IMO The small school guy I like better is Skyler Bell Wr UCONN
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Just leaving this here..., I like the dude's content. He suggests that WR have the best value right now for teams. Not so much this draft class but by a statistics oriented sense. WRs generally carry the most value outside of QBs... Many guys who barely touched the ball are getting large contracts etc.
Not advocating for anything here. Just thought it was informative
Joel Klatt just put out his mock and talked about how much the Giants like TYson. He has them taking him at 10 but said don't be surprised if they take him at 5
I am not a Ted Hurst fan, I think he gets over rated Great size and speed numbers but against that competition he should have been more dominating IMO The small school guy I like better is Skyler Bell Wr UCONN
NYG at #10 might be a trade option if they like Tyson that much
