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Mods, if you have issue with this - I am sorry. I (not alone I'm sure) have been extremely panicked since I heard that news the other day. I did some digging and found an article that should put it to REST . Winslow's new look' idea falls flat Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards may not like it, but the Browns have no intention of changing their uniforms anytime soon. LINK Not going to bother in putting more than that - this should be enough. It's a slightly older article. But that there should say it all.
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What about Tim couch 
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What about him? are saying he wasn't a good QB...i thin....ahhh lol jus kidding
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Finally, although it is over 2 weeks old, an article that states quite clearly how false and RUMOR-mongering Winslow's comment was. Quote:
Bonsiewicz said that the Browns altered their uniform look last year with a return to gray facemasks and some subtle changes in striping. He said a league rule states that teams must wait five years after a change before doing something different.
That is as non-rumor as it gets. Nothing but FACTS.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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What about Tim couch
He might look good in the new uni`s
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Finally, although it is over 2 weeks old, an article that states quite clearly how false and RUMOR-mongering Winslow's comment was.
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Bonsiewicz said that the Browns altered their uniform look last year with a return to gray facemasks and some subtle changes in striping. He said a league rule states that teams must wait five years after a change before doing something different.
That is as non-rumor as it gets. Nothing but FACTS.
Oh, but it would have been so fun to argue and squabble over something with no foundation whatsoever!! 
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Should we have started Couch or Holcomb in 2003?
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I say Couch! 
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Finally, although it is over 2 weeks old, an article that states quite clearly how false and RUMOR-mongering Winslow's comment was.
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Bonsiewicz said that the Browns altered their uniform look last year with a return to gray facemasks and some subtle changes in striping. He said a league rule states that teams must wait five years after a change before doing something different.
That is as non-rumor as it gets. Nothing but FACTS.
Not sure the 5 year rule is adhered too....
The Browns are the only team in the NFL that do not have a logo on their helmets. Even though the team has had various logos throughout the years, such as the "Brownie Elf" mascot (a logo that Art Modell did away with in the mid-1960s, feeling it was too childish; however, its use has been revived under the current ownership.) and the Brown "B" in a white football, the club's orange "logo-less" helmet has become its primary trademark. The only time that the Browns ever had a logo on their helmets was during one preseason game vs Green Bay in 1965; it was a brown "CB". (the "CB" Logo is what Art Modell tried to use as a replacement for the "Brownie Elf" mascot.)
Since debuting in 1946, the Browns' uniforms have essentially remained the same. However, the team originally wore white helmets before switching to orange (with a white center stripe.) on a full-time basis in 1952. (In the 1950 & '51 seasons, the Browns wore the white helmets in day games and plain orange helmets in night games because of an NFL rule prohibiting the use of white or light-colored helmets for night games because of the lighting and the use of a white football for night games. Also because of night games, they experimented with silver game pants in the 1950 & '51 seasons, and a third orange jersey for night games in the 1954 season.) From 1957 to 1960, the players' numbers were on the sides of their helmets. In 1960, the Browns went to the now familiar brown-white-brown stripe sequence on the helmets.
The original designs of the jerseys, pants and socks have remained mostly intact although the helmet has undergone significant revisions:
Jerseys: 1. Brown (officially "seal brown") with white numerals and a white-orange-white-orange-white stripe sequence on the sleeves. 2. White with brown numerals and a brown-orange-brown-orange-brown stripe sequence on the sleeves. The three white or brown stripes are approximately twice the width of the two orange stripes. (The original 1946 jerseys featured block-shadow numerals.)
Pants: White with an orange-brown-orange stripe sequence on the sides. The stripes are of equal width.
Socks: Brown or white to match the jerseys with the identical stripe sequence as the jersey sleeves.
Helmet: Solid white (1946–1949); solid white for day games and solid orange for night games (1950–1951); orange with a single white stripe (1952–1956); orange with a single white stripe and brown numerals on the sides (1957–1959); orange with a brown-white-brown stripe sequence and brown numerals on the sides (1960); orange with a brown-white-brown stripe sequence (1961–1995 and 1999–present).
Over the years, the Browns have had on-again/off-again periods of wearing white in their home games, particularly in the 1970s and 80s, as well as in the early 2000s after the team returned to the league. Until recently, when more NFL teams started to wear white at home at least once a season, the Browns were the only non-subtropical team north of the Mason-Dixon line to wear white at home on a regular basis. Since 1999, the team has worn white, brown and orange jerseys at home.
Numerals first appeared on the jersey sleeves in 1961. Over the years, there have been minor revisions to the sleeve stripes, the first occurring in 1968 (brown jerseys worn in early season) and 1969 (white and brown jerseys) when stripes began to be silk screened onto the sleeves and separated from each other to prevent color bleeding. However, the basic five-stripe sequence has remained intact (with the exception of the 1984 season). A recent revision was the addition of the initials "AL" to honor team owner Al Lerner who died in 2002.
Orange pants with a brown-white-brown stripe sequence were worn from 1975–1983 and become symbolic of the Kardiac Kids era. The orange pants were worn again occasionally in 2003 and 2004.
Other than the helmet, the uniform was completely redesigned for the 1984 season. New striping patterns appeared on the white jerseys, brown jerseys and pants. Solid brown socks were worn with brown jerseys and solid orange socks were worn with white jerseys. Brown numerals on white jerseys were outlined in orange. White numerals on brown jerseys were double outlined in brown and orange.
In 1985, the uniform returned to a look similar to the original design and remained that way through 1995.
In 1999, the expansion Browns adopted the traditional design with two exceptions: 1. Jersey-sleeve numbers were moved to the shoulders. 2. The orange-brown-orange pants stripes were significantly widened.
Experimentation with the uniform design began in 2002. An alternate orange jersey was introduced that season as the NFL encouraged teams to adopt a third jersey. Also in 2002, a major design change was made when solid brown socks appeared for the first time since 1984 and were used with white, brown and orange jerseys. Other than 1984, striped socks (matching the jersey stripes) had been a signature design element in the team's traditional uniform. The white striped socks appeared occasionally with the white jerseys in 2003–2005 and again in 2007.
Experimentation continued in 2003 and 2004 when the traditional orange-brown-orange stripes on the white pants were replaced by two variations of a brown-orange-brown sequence, one in which the stripes were joined (worn with white jerseys) and the other in which they were separated by white (worn with brown jerseys). The joined sequence was used exclusively with both jerseys in 2005. In 2006, the traditional orange-brown-orange sequence returned.
In 2006, the team reverted to an older uniform style, featuring gray face masks; the original stripe pattern on the brown jersey sleeves (The white jersey has had that sleeve stripe pattern on a consistent basis since the 1985 season.) and the older, darker shade of brown. The team still has the alternate orange jerseys as well as the orange pants, however they are not worn often. [8]
Paul Brown got his inspiration for the Brown's colors from the nearby Bowling Green State University.[citation needed] Early on BGSU also hosted Browns training camps. Today the University displays a plaque that commemorates this connection with the NFL franchise.
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Now maybe that rule applies to real changes. Like when the Bengals got their strips, or the Bucs got rid of those hideous orange things they used to wear, not changes to striping or facemask colors.
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5 year rule
Isnt that the same rule for cookout & picnics...if something falls on the ground it's still good up to..... 
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Isnt that the same rule for cookout & picnics...if something falls on the ground it's still good up to.....
the dog gets it...or covered by ants......
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That's the 5 hour rule, dummy.
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That's the 5 hour rule, dummy.
thats along time....usually the drunks pick it up by then.....
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Ohhh....5 hours....no wonder we couldnt tell what Cousin Jim bob was sticking in his mouth last August.....even after it was coming back up ten minutes later we still couldnt tell.....Thoought about taken it in and washing it off, but the dogs were scatch'en themselves and we lost track of Jim
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Hopefully it can be.
That's why I just changed the title of this thread so folks would know what it was about, and perhaps read and see it. (especially since we've had to delete many unfounded threads on this topic as of late)
Now back to important stuff like Britney Spears and Dr Phil.
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Here's our new helmet....... 
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I would like to see us wear an alternate jersey top. The pants should be white for every game, but I wouldn't mind seeing the orange jerseys again... just modified so they aren't so bright. Darken them up a little.
I never want to see any drastic changes with striping, pants, jerseys, and especially helmets.
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I would say this comes up every year, but it comes up 2 to 3 times every year. They're not changing the uniform.
I'll comment on this again about June.
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He's designing the unis for our cheerleaders next year 
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He might look good in the new uni`s
What about Tim Couch's wife?
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What about Tim couch
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Finally, although it is over 2 weeks old, an article that states quite clearly how false and RUMOR-mongering Winslow's comment was.
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Bonsiewicz said that the Browns altered their uniform look last year with a return to gray facemasks and some subtle changes in striping. He said a league rule states that teams must wait five years after a change before doing something different.
That is as non-rumor as it gets. Nothing but FACTS.
WHAT  You mean it was a RUMOR about the uniforms changing. WOW who would a thunk it (sarcasm off)
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What about Tim Couch's wife
Post a picture of her and we will tell ya if we need to talk about her & other beauties..... 
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You can find lots of pictures of her at www.GMdawgsgirlfriend.com
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He might look good in the new uni`s
What about Tim Couch's wife?
No uniform would be better
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