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Who are the top rated guys?

When is the juice worth the squeeze for McCoy?


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Well, for starters, we own 4 5ths, and a 7th rounder.

I could see us packaging some picks if an interesting player drops.

However, value can be found in the 5th, and we do have 3 early 5th rounders. (146 148, 149, and 152)

So, what should we look for? Obviously we should prioritize BPA, but that doesn't always happen. So, what do we need? Another RB would be good, but I just don't see a ton of value there right now, but maybe a FB can be found. We need another TE. We could use another LB. It's hard to see us grabbing another OL, just because it's hard to carry more than 2 rookies on the OL, and we have met that mark. That said, maybe a C/G? I just can't see us carrying 3 rookies on a team that will likely carry 8-9 (at the most) OL.

What is it with Berry and pairing up positions? Last year 2 QB and 2 RB. This year 2 WR and 2 OT. I could see us grabbing another DB. Berry loves DBs, and one more would give us a pair there too. rofl

My guess? Maybe a TE/FB, a CB, a RB, and perhaps a LB. I can't see us using all 5 of our picks. Maybe a trade up, maybe trade one away for next year? Only the Berry knows for sure ....... wink


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CB, Developmental QB, Speed rusher

Think we might go 6OL a decent bit after missing on blocking TEs. Could maybe still find one, but the run could continue on TEs in the 4th, and I don't see one I want to trade up for. Not getting one could also lead to an Njoku reunion. Hopefully he likes what we've done in the draft, too.


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maybe a kick returner?


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Or trade 5th round picks this year for 5th round picks next year? I know sounds strange but ?


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Berry read your post and laughed. He trades 5th for 4ths and 3rds, silly.


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I think we'll draft an "experimental" TE. Someone under the radar who is an athletic freak.


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I hope it doesnt look like getting mooned by a black-silk covered butt again. I forget the pick but that was disturbing.


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Originally Posted by BADdog
maybe a kick returner?


Conception is supposed to be a good kick returner.


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I wonder if Berry manages to move up to the top portion of the 4th.

I also wonder if there is a pllayer who is quietly available for trade who we might be interested in.


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Ready now for McCoy - package (5a and 5b) and move back into 4th and grab him.

5c. Nussmeier, Payton, King - Qbs

5d. Allen, Washington, Heidenreich

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Ready now for McCoy - package (5a and 5b) and move back into 4th and grab him.

5c. Nussmeier, Payton, King - Qbs

5d. Allen, Washington, Heidenreich

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QB - Cole Payton
QB - Taylen Green (in a Taysom Hill role)
LB - Jack Kelly
TE - Riley Nowakowski
C - Parker Brailsford

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Good draft so far, and we suddenly have few needs. In no particular order:

Developmental C - I like Coogan from Indiana. PLayed LT but projected as a center in the NFL

Back-up Rb - I would like one of the 2 Penn St guys

Bach-up/Developmental Cb - I think now would be the time to grab McCoy

If we aren't planning to re-sign Delpit, another safety would be nice.
I like Genesis Smith

Back-up Lb - I like Jack Smith BYU

Another edge rusher. I don't have anyone I am familiar with.

Value - Looks like we could get good value at OG
Farmer OG Kentucky?

Late round Qb flier?
Nussmeier Still available?
Sawyer Robinson Baylor maybe

Another TE?
Tanner Koziol Houston

A back-up DT?

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Originally Posted by FATE
I think we'll draft an "experimental" TE. Someone under the radar who is an athletic freak.

Its seems like teams are starting to use 3 TE formations more in recent seasons.

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"There were 1,897 plays with three tight ends on the field league-wide in 2025—the highest on record and a 33% increase from 2024. This is part of a 30% rise in multiple-TE plays per game since 2018.

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Tight ends played a record 48,102 offensive snaps in 2025 (most in 20+ years of tracking). They also set records for receptions (2,866) and receiving yards (29,072), with yards per game up ~37% over the past two decades.
https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/ar...se-of-tight-ends-could-have-22216319.php

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Many teams showed elevated multi-TE rates (e.g., Bears, Rams, Raiders, Falcons, Browns, Seahawks, and Steelers often above 40%). Lower 3WR rates correlated with heavier TE usage.
https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/fantasy/nfl-offensive-analysis-adjustments-2025/

Could be why Berry was targeting TE on Day 2.


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Refs-- If any are around, feel free to merge w/ Ytown's thread.


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Caden Curry, DE, Ohio State
Malik Muhammed CB Texas
Joe Royer TE Cincinnati
Jonah Coleman, RB, Washington
Kaytron Allen, RB, Penn State
Patrick Coogan, C, Indiana
Deven Eastern, DT, Minnesota
Jermod McCoy*, CB, Tennessee
Garrett Nusmiere QB LSU

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Originally Posted by Jester
Good draft so far, and we suddenly have few needs. In no particular order:

Developmental C - I like Coogan from Indiana. PLayed LT but projected as a center in the NFL

Back-up Rb - I would like one of the 2 Penn St guys

Bach-up/Developmental Cb - I think now would be the time to grab McCoy

If we aren't planning to re-sign Delpit, another safety would be nice.
I like Genesis Smith ...

Lord I hope we re-sign Delpit if not I like Jalon Kilgore S South Carolina

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Originally Posted by Jester
Good draft so far, and we suddenly have few needs. In no particular order:

Developmental C - I like Coogan from Indiana. PLayed LT but projected as a center in the NFL

Back-up Rb - I would like one of the 2 Penn St guys

Bach-up/Developmental Cb - I think now would be the time to grab McCoy

If we aren't planning to re-sign Delpit, another safety would be nice.
I like Genesis Smith ...

Lord I hope we re-sign Delpit if not I like Jalon Kilgore S South Carolina

Delpit is only 27 and has been great for us. In order words, I agree, and hope we extend him.


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Great pickl for the Raiders. Maybe McCoy might need surgery right off the bat, but his talent is full 1st round type.

I wish we could have got him.


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I have 2 guys I like in the 5th,

CB Malik Muhammad and LB Jackson Kuwatch

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If available ---
QB’s - Nussmeier, Green, Payton

C’s - Hecht, Parker ll, Burton

LB’s - Rolder, Elarms-Orr

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Well the Rats just got Elijah Sarratt from Indiana thumbsdown


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There's no way I see us taking 3 WR.


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Offensively I think we still need a developmental guy at C or OG and a #2 TE

C Sam Hecht - Kansas St.
C Connor Lew - Auburn
OG Beau Stephens - Iowa
TE Justin Joly -NC St.
TE Jack Endries - Texas

Defensively I would say that we still need LB depth, CB depth and a Nickleback

LB/S Kyle Louis - Pitt
LB Bryce Boettcher - Oregon
LB Aiden Fisher - Indiana
CB Malik Muhammad - Texas
CB/S Jalon Kilgore - South Carolina
CB Chandler Rivers - Duke
CB Charles Demmings - SFA


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Originally Posted by OrangeHelmet
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QB’s - Nussmeier, Green, Payton

C’s - Hecht, Parker ll, Burton

LB’s - Rolder, Elarms-Orr

Nussmeier feels like a prime Berry pick ... I just don't know with Sanders and Gabriel here also.


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Originally Posted by dawg66
Offensively I think we still need a developmental guy at C or OG and a #2 TE

C Sam Hecht - Kansas St.
C Connor Lew - Auburn
OG Beau Stephens - Iowa
TE Justin Joly -NC St.
TE Jack Endries - Texas

Defensively I would say that we still need LB depth, CB depth and a Nickleback

LB/S Kyle Louis - Pitt
LB Bryce Boettcher - Oregon
LB Aiden Fisher - Indiana
CB Malik Muhammad - Texas
CB/S Jalon Kilgore - South Carolina
CB Chandler Rivers - Duke
CB Charles Demmings - SFA

I'll add to this:

OG Billy Schrauth ND, run stuffer. Blocked for the only two RBs taken in the first round.
RB Emmitt Johnson Nebraska
TE Riley Nowakowski Indiana, Blocking TE/FB hybrid
FB Max Bredeson Michigan

CB Keith Abney Arizona State
LB Harold Perkins JR
LB Taurean York Arizona State

Then I think we could use the depth, so EDGE LOGAN Fano, Utah. It's a need, about where he should go and he can be with Fam.

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I wish there was a button I could press so I could jump to our next pick immediately. wink


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I really like RB Johnson from Nebraska I'm just not sure if we will take a RB and I did a bunch of mocks where I took DE Fano with our last pick.


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Does Ephesians go next after Genesis and Jeremiah? wink


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I don’t understand why we’re not moving up. Having 4 5th rounders in a draft that most of the people I’ve read feel is a top heavy draft with thin talent in later rounds and we’re staying put with all those picks? We typically don’t hit on much after round 4. Just bottom of rotation guys.




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Maybe it's too expensive, or maybe they like the way the board is falling right now.


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Any interest in Nussmeier? Other QB or reaches?


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I want nothing to do with another QB. Ride with what we have and see how things look next year, if need be.


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I’m interested in Nussmeier. I watched him in 2024 and I thought he was legit. Hearing that he was injured all last year I think should qualify his play last year. Generally I don’t want another backup QB but I’d understand that pick

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Need those depth/ST guys to fix that squad.

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Honestly if Nussmeier falls I would have no issue taking him.... pick number 148 .. c'mon.

CB Keith Abney another. RB Emmett Johnson. TE Justin Jolly.

Any of those.


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I really would rather concentrate on Sanders and/or Watson if we have to. I don't think any of these QBs have a lot to offer for the future.

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