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I'm the one that posted we should keep Taylen 3-4 years to see what he can develop into. We need a 3rd string QB anyways so why not a guy with his skills. Irish out of those 36 QB's drafted in the 6th round over the last 20 years how many have the physical skills TG has? How many had the insane numbers he put up at the combine? I'll bet none. He's worth keeping on the roster to see what Monken can do with him. Small investment but possibly a huge upside!

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Going by stats when it is in reference to individual players is as an ignorant of a view of things as there can be. Every player is different. They have different skill levels, abilities, how long they have played the position etc.... Players are worth developing. Some will develop many more won't. How much God given talent does a player have and how much ability to learn and work ethic does that same player have. That is the real difference. Taylen Green has athletic skills that most 1st round QB's do not have. Does he have the capacity and work ethic to learn and develop? Hopefully Green is a tremendously hard worker and can develop. At this point none of us know including the know it all's that site stats as opinion.

Sanders could prove to be an exception to the rule. From all indications around Berea he camped out in the facility all winter after the season watching film and working on his game and Todd Monken's playbook. He is at least putting in the work to get better. I appreciate players that work at their craft. Sounds like Watson has also put the work in as reports are he has looked really good so far both moving well and arm looks strong. Could be a very interesting camp with these 2. Green is worth developing. His raw talent is jaw dropping. Now it is up to him and the coaches.


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Long ago I heard someone say "ya never know how bad someone wants it."

I coached baseball for ten years in a highly competitive environment where many players made it to the major leagues.

I saw great talent come to an end for all kinds of reasons.

I also saw players reach the very top that you did not see coming.

Green will get his chance. We shall see what happens.

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I agree with your wisdom and insight. I like what I have heard about him. If our worst fallback option is Green at QB3, then we have some options to work with. I have been considering what ir might mean to have him on the field as a second QB for some gadget or gimmick plays. He might really challenge defenses in multiple ways. Hope to see more that will let his Combine performance translate to the NFL battlefield. Wishing all of them good luck.


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Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
The AVERAGE time spent on their drafting team is 1.62 years.

Thank you. I'm glad you did your research.


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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
I'm the one that posted we should keep Taylen 3-4 years to see what he can develop into. We need a 3rd string QB anyways so why not a guy with his skills. Irish out of those 36 QB's drafted in the 6th round over the last 20 years how many have the physical skills TG has? How many had the insane numbers he put up at the combine? I'll bet none. He's worth keeping on the roster to see what Monken can do with him. Small investment but possibly a huge upside!

I know you were the one that made the 3-4 comment,

I'm not going to pretend that I know every name on this list of 36. But of those I do know, I don't think any had the same athletic traits. We all know there has never been a QB like Green at the combine, so I'm going to take that as a rhetorical question.

As Bone said, Green is going to get his chance. Right now it's going to be in the shadows, but you can learn a lot observing from the shadows. If he understands that his time will come, he could set himself up to have a great opportunity.

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Where did you get your data? I was exploring the historical outcomes question, too and search engine AI wasn't very good at understanding the data it was pulling from. (I asked Google for 6th round QBs that ran for over 700 yards in a college season and it spat out Gardiner Minshew as the answer along with some names of other people nowhere close)

I ask because Joe Webb wasn't on your list. He seemed like the closest athletic profile to me (though still not exact,) and he played 10 seasons, too. Yes, he eventually converted to WR/gadget guy, but he was a QB his first 3 years in MIN (and was drafted as one.)

While I don't see the WR conversion for him, I do think the "gadget" possibilities give Green a decently long longevity floor.

With the exception of Sudfeld, the guys that did last were guys that used their legs/athleticism as a significant part of their game.

Lesser athletes taken late are easier to let go of than guys with tantalizing traits. I wonder what the average career length of guys with a RAS over 9 is. MathBomb might actually have something like that somewhere.


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It was a rhetorical question. There probably isn’t any QB tested ever at the combine no matter what round they were drafted in that had Taylens numbers. I also think that right now with the HC we have there is a better chance of developing him than what we had previously. Monken already did it in Baltimore and Lamar while gifted, isn’t as physically gifted TG. I have my opinion it doesn’t mean i’ll be right but time will tell. TG is worth a shot. He seems like a good kid and i’ll be pulling for him.

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Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
The AVERAGE time spent on their drafting team is 1.62 years.

Thank you. I'm glad you did your research.

Lol, yeah I figured that's all you would get out of the entire post. It is still relevant to my posts message, but you can't correlate the two for some reason. I stated that he might not be on the Browns in 4 years, but there's a better than 50/50 chance he is in 2027... That number corroborates my statement, not yours. You asked the question between Sanders and Green as the #3 QB in 2027... It still supports my post that it would be Green.

If you took all the conversations accumulatively, a reasonable person would ascertain that Green has an above average chance to beat the one and done notion, simply because his attributes are so much higher than the typical 6th round draft pick, let alone the QB position.

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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Where did you get your data? I was exploring the historical outcomes question, too and search engine AI wasn't very good at understanding the data it was pulling from. (I asked Google for 6th round QBs that ran for over 700 yards in a college season and it spat out Gardiner Minshew as the answer along with some names of other people nowhere close)

I ask because Joe Webb wasn't on your list. He seemed like the closest athletic profile to me (though still not exact,) and he played 10 seasons, too. Yes, he eventually converted to WR/gadget guy, but he was a QB his first 3 years in MIN (and was drafted as one.)

While I don't see the WR conversion for him, I do think the "gadget" possibilities give Green a decently long longevity floor.

With the exception of Sudfeld, the guys that did last were guys that used their legs/athleticism as a significant part of their game.

Lesser athletes taken late are easier to let go of than guys with tantalizing traits. I wonder what the average career length of guys with a RAS over 9 is. MathBomb might actually have something like that somewhere.

I literally have a spreadsheet I could share if I knew how to, lol.

I looked at the historical data from the past 20 seasons of 6th round draft picks and charted the QBs. I obviously missed one, fortunately, it would have helped the cause. Then I looked at all 36 players individually to see how long they were with their drafting team, how long they consecutively played in the NFL, then put formulas in to calculate the numbers relevant to the conversation. I did NOT go through each individual players stats to find comparative players to Green. I was only interested in the average numbers a certain poster was arguing about.

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You seem to have forgotten what our discussion was about......

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He can be our 3rd stringer for the next 3-4 years if need be. With his physical attributes he's an intriguing prospect.

I quoted the part of your post that was relative to the discussion. By your own research you provided factual information that this was likely false as I've been contending all along.

That's a you problem at this point.


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