DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk NFL Draft 2026 Pick #182 Arkansas QB Taylen Green

I'm the one that posted we should keep Taylen 3-4 years to see what he can develop into. We need a 3rd string QB anyways so why not a guy with his skills. Irish out of those 36 QB's drafted in the 6th round over the last 20 years how many have the physical skills TG has? How many had the insane numbers he put up at the combine? I'll bet none. He's worth keeping on the roster to see what Monken can do with him. Small investment but possibly a huge upside!

Going by stats when it is in reference to individual players is as an ignorant of a view of things as there can be. Every player is different. They have different skill levels, abilities, how long they have played the position etc.... Players are worth developing. Some will develop many more won't. How much God given talent does a player have and how much ability to learn and work ethic does that same player have. That is the real difference. Taylen Green has athletic skills that most 1st round QB's do not have. Does he have the capacity and work ethic to learn and develop? Hopefully Green is a tremendously hard worker and can develop. At this point none of us know including the know it all's that site stats as opinion.

Sanders could prove to be an exception to the rule. From all indications around Berea he camped out in the facility all winter after the season watching film and working on his game and Todd Monken's playbook. He is at least putting in the work to get better. I appreciate players that work at their craft. Sounds like Watson has also put the work in as reports are he has looked really good so far both moving well and arm looks strong. Could be a very interesting camp with these 2. Green is worth developing. His raw talent is jaw dropping. Now it is up to him and the coaches.

I agree with your wisdom and insight. I like what I have heard about him. If our worst fallback option is Green at QB3, then we have some options to work with. I have been considering what ir might mean to have him on the field as a second QB for some gadget or gimmick plays. He might really challenge defenses in multiple ways. Hope to see more that will let his Combine performance translate to the NFL battlefield. Wishing all of them good luck.

Thank you. I'm glad you did your research.

I know you were the one that made the 3-4 comment,

I'm not going to pretend that I know every name on this list of 36. But of those I do know, I don't think any had the same athletic traits. We all know there has never been a QB like Green at the combine, so I'm going to take that as a rhetorical question.

As Bone said, Green is going to get his chance. Right now it's going to be in the shadows, but you can learn a lot observing from the shadows. If he understands that his time will come, he could set himself up to have a great opportunity.

Where did you get your data? I was exploring the historical outcomes question, too and search engine AI wasn't very good at understanding the data it was pulling from. (I asked Google for 6th round QBs that ran for over 700 yards in a college season and it spat out Gardiner Minshew as the answer along with some names of other people nowhere close)

I ask because Joe Webb wasn't on your list. He seemed like the closest athletic profile to me (though still not exact,) and he played 10 seasons, too. Yes, he eventually converted to WR/gadget guy, but he was a QB his first 3 years in MIN (and was drafted as one.)

While I don't see the WR conversion for him, I do think the "gadget" possibilities give Green a decently long longevity floor.

With the exception of Sudfeld, the guys that did last were guys that used their legs/athleticism as a significant part of their game.

Lesser athletes taken late are easier to let go of than guys with tantalizing traits. I wonder what the average career length of guys with a RAS over 9 is. MathBomb might actually have something like that somewhere.

It was a rhetorical question. There probably isn’t any QB tested ever at the combine no matter what round they were drafted in that had Taylens numbers. I also think that right now with the HC we have there is a better chance of developing him than what we had previously. Monken already did it in Baltimore and Lamar while gifted, isn’t as physically gifted TG. I have my opinion it doesn’t mean i’ll be right but time will tell. TG is worth a shot. He seems like a good kid and i’ll be pulling for him.

Lol, yeah I figured that's all you would get out of the entire post. It is still relevant to my posts message, but you can't correlate the two for some reason. I stated that he might not be on the Browns in 4 years, but there's a better than 50/50 chance he is in 2027... That number corroborates my statement, not yours. You asked the question between Sanders and Green as the #3 QB in 2027... It still supports my post that it would be Green.

If you took all the conversations accumulatively, a reasonable person would ascertain that Green has an above average chance to beat the one and done notion, simply because his attributes are so much higher than the typical 6th round draft pick, let alone the QB position.

I literally have a spreadsheet I could share if I knew how to, lol.

I looked at the historical data from the past 20 seasons of 6th round draft picks and charted the QBs. I obviously missed one, fortunately, it would have helped the cause. Then I looked at all 36 players individually to see how long they were with their drafting team, how long they consecutively played in the NFL, then put formulas in to calculate the numbers relevant to the conversation. I did NOT go through each individual players stats to find comparative players to Green. I was only interested in the average numbers a certain poster was arguing about.

You seem to have forgotten what our discussion was about......


I quoted the part of your post that was relative to the discussion. By your own research you provided factual information that this was likely false as I've been contending all along.

That's a you problem at this point.

....you do realize you're replying to one person while quoting someone else's post? Homewood Dog and IrishDawg42 aren't the same person.

Can denotes a possibility. Homewood didn't say 100% will be. If anything, the research (of IrishDawg42) showed that it was possible.

Not knowing what you're talking about or who you're talking to is a PitDAWG problem.

Well, except that isn't my post....

BUT... since you brought up Homewood Dog's post, all he stated was "He could be our third stringer for the next 3-4 years" Which falls right into the average 6th round QB pick's NFL career of 4.25 years.

In what universe do you think you are winning this debate?

For one, you are trying to argue statistics with a guys hypothetical, which is ridiculous to begin with, but then you double down and his statement falls within the statistics.

Out of the 36, you have to whittle that down to 30 because 6 of those have only been in the league for 2 years, so that alone puts them outside the parameters.

Out of the 30 that are left, 7 were with their original team for at least 3 years. So 23% of the eligible QBs drafted in the 6th round were with their original team for at least 3 years... numbers are a fickle b!tch, sometimes they help, sometimes they don't. In this case they aren't helping you at all...

There are some days I wish we still had a LIKE button...

Green has more potential as a 6th round pick than Gabriel has as a 3rd round pick.

Everything is debatable.

The unknown with Green is football IQ. That was supposed to be the strength of Gabriel, I didn't get to see it, but he also was given a very small window to show it.

You can have all the physical tools in the world, but if you don't know how to use them properly, you're never going to succeed. I am glad he is in Cleveland so we can try to observe from afar. It's going to be a fun observation, good or bad.

He said "He can be our 3rd stringer for the next 3-4 years if need be.

None of that has anything to do with how long he may remain in the league. Trying to flip the script isn't going to help you now. Your own research shows that is a highly unlikely scenario. Your research shows the average time a 6th rounder spends with the team that drafted him is 1.6 seasons. The numbers your research turned up are not my fault. Can and could are not the same thing either.

So can he be? Yes. Do the stats show that is a very unlikely scenario as I have stated? Yes they do. That is backed up by your own stats, not mine.

I'm not flipping anything. MY post said that Green would be the 3rd string QB over Sanders in 2027.. YOU are the one flipping it showing someone else's post. 2027 isn't 3-4 years, it would be year two for Green. You're question was you would have Green over Sanders for #3? My short answer was, YES. Then I went on to explain and you went into a tirade like you do frequently.

I'm beginning to think you argue with so many people, you can't keep the arguments straight.

Tssk, tssk, tssk. Please show where I ever argued with you about Green being a third stringer in 2027. Don't worry I'll wait.

I think in order to keep him past season 3 he's gotta start showing SOMETHING. As others have said, sub-packages and gadget plays.