DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Myles Garrett Traded

Now, land the QB in next year's draft or the last several seasons and this one will have been a total waste and disaster from the moment Watson was signed.

There had been too much smoke the last couple of weeks......

So, the Browns young defense now has the 2024 defensive rookie of the year Jared Verse and the 2025 defensive rookie of the year Carson Schwesinger. I like Verse and a 2027 but still would like to know what other picks were included in this trade.

2027 pick, probably 25 or higher isn't that great of an asset. The Rams are likely finish with a great record and deep PO run. Not sure if this helps us get a QB. Better hope SS figures it out quickly.

Well, I just wasted a lot of time on a post in the other thread...

On the surface this is a pretty good trade. I am curious what the "other draft compensation" is.

Jared Verse is a viable replacement for an aging Myles. Myles has another couple of stud years in him, but then what? This team is getting themselves propped up for the opening of their new stadium. Verse is more likely to be in his prime when they move 15 miles south than Myles will be.

The most important aspect of this trade is setting themselves up for draft currency to try to get one of the QBs coming out next year. I think this is a telling sign that Monken is not convinced Shedeur Sanders is the QB of the future. He is going to start Watson and Watson will be gone in the 2027 off season. Then the Browns can get another comp draft pick when Watson leaves.

Right now, it comes down to how far down the Browns first pick is. If they are picking top 10, they will have the ammunition to move up to get their guy. If they are picking below 15, it is going to be difficult due to the number of teams needing QBs.

Here's the thing. The best player coming out will probably be Jeremiah Smith.. However, there will be as many as 5 QBs with a top 15 grade on them, which will elevate them all to top 5 draft status. Think about the prospects of a Browns team picking 6th, just outside those parameters. Now, think about a top 5 team that already has their QB of the immediate future in place... They could pick up the Browns pick, the Rams first and probably the Browns 2028 first also and still get Jeremiah Smith.

Yes, the complete details of this trade will be interesting to see.

Ugh.... The "additional compensation" better include another first or multiple 2nd/3rd picks. This guy is the cornerstone of our D, and a lot of our defensive success is because of the attention he commands. I'm also reading that the Rams' base scheme is a 3-4. I'll let someone more informed on the topic expand on that, though.

I do like that we got a plus-level starter in return. That mitigates the usual "now we have to burn much of the draft haul we got to replace the guy we just shipped out". Plus Verse is younger. If we were going to do something like this (ship a vet to stock up on draft ammo to speed up on reloading offensive talent), then our Dline roster was best equipped to handle a blow like this.

Wow.

Good trade . How many games did the Browns win with Myles Garrett?
54? Not exactly a locker room leader.
I bet Eotab is melting down now

Good trade for other teams in the AFCN.

I'm shocked!! My phone blew up with texts from all my friends!! I'm very interested to see what other draft picks we received.

Guaranteed J-Dubs is on the phone ordering farewell dinosaur cupcakes and a T-Rex bouncy house for Garrett's Farewell Party.

How can you say it was a good trade without first knowing the details of the trade?

I could use some dude wipes right about now.

Yes, the Rams play in the 3-4, but Jared Verse was playing out of position in that system at LB. He played the edge as a DE in college at Florida State. He will be returning to that role with the Browns, while Myles will have to switch to the 3-4 for the first time in his career, I believe. Gregg Williams ran some 3-4 during Myles first two seasons, but he switched back and forth a lot. All his other coordinators were base 4-3.

Shula's defense will benefit from Garrett's ability to line up anywhere. This will allow him to use his dime packages more effectively.

Overall, Garrett wins because he is going to a contender. The Browns are building for the new stadium opening, not 2026. Verse will be right in line to help open it properly.

Thank you for the added info!

So Verse earned himself DROY and PB honors while playing out of position?

All I can say right now is OMG!!!

Colin Cowherd just said we are also getting a 2nd in 2028 and a 3rd in 2029.

Hard to believe that at least one of the picks isn't a 5th rounder

The "Other" is a 2028 2nd rounder and a 2029 3rd rounder..

Honestly. Are you surprised?

I think all in all it's a good deal for us. Now we have lots of draft capitol to maneuver in 2027 and a good young player in Verse to boot.

[quote][Jared Verse, a 2027 first-round draft pick and other draft compensation that is still being negotiated, sources told NFL Network's Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero and ESPN's Adam Schefter./quote]

Not enough from the Rams..!!

The Rams 2027 first round pick will likely be closer to a 2nd round pick than a first round pick.

The Rams are closer to drafting at number 30 to 32 in 2027 which equals a high 2nd round pick rather than a 1st round pick that will be the bannered propaganda fed to the Browns fans and Browns media by Berry and Haslam. Not nearly a trade that is fair and equal for a player of Myles caliber.

The Rams will be giving up a #19 first round (Jared Verse value) and a late 1st round pick in 2027...NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Browns/BERRY...DON'T ALLOW YOURSELVES TO GET SCREWED..!...imo

Those draft picks are going to be very late 2027 1st rd, very late 2028 2nd round and very late 2029 third round. Better start working on trade up packages for a QB next year.

At this point, might as well see what you can get for Denzel.

Right now it may look that way, but you don't know how the season will play out. Stafford is older and has had some back issues and there may be other injuries although I hope not. We can also package those picks and move up. We have flexibility and a few options.

So what in total did the Browns get from the Rams? How do you know it's a bad trade when you don't even know all of the details yet? Oh, never mind, I know.

I asked someone who said it was a good trade the same question.

So, the Browns got Jared Verse, 2027 1st, 2028 2nd, and 2029 3rd.

I think there are 2 keys here. Will Jared Verse earn a 2nd contract with the Browns in a few years. If he is an all-pro DE that plays for the Browns for 10 years and the Browns either use the draft capitol to find their future franchise QB or use those picks to get 3 more starters that play for the Browns thru a 2nd contract. That will make this trade worth it. Anything short of that if the Rams win a Superbowl will be an "L" for the Browns.

I would expect this next season to end up being the last for Denzil Ward in a Browns uniform. I could see the Browns trading him at the trade deadline now to get more draft capital. They do have the makings of a nice young defense with Verse and Graham up front. Schwesinger at linebacker and hopefully EMW in the secondary. They need to keep Campbell that they have under contract for a few more years and resign Delpit after this season. That move might have just become easier freeing up Garrett cap space.

Even harder to believe Cowhead got one right lol

That's the thing about trades. At first it's how they look on paper and even that's subjective from person to person. Not everyone is going to see it the same way.

But who came out the winner and who came out the loser is determined by the end results.

IMO, that may not be enough ammo for a fQB prospect... but without Garrett one could argue we'll still be picking fairly high.

It's really going to come down to how bad the Browns suck this year because LA is looking to run deep into the playoffs, at least on paper. So our 2027 first plus the additional first from the Myles trade could put us drafting near the top.

What this confirms to me is that the front office doesn't see a long-term QB starter on the roster right now.

I believe a lot if people have felt that way all along. It's easy to get caught up in the moment right after the draft and convince yourself every player drafted was a steal and will be some ultimate answer to a great need your team has. But the odds and the history of the NFL show that far times more times than not that's certainly not the case.

Looking at the investment in draft capital the Browns invested when drafting QB's over the past two drafts, they didn't consider them likely to be the long term answer at the QB position either..

Just fire Berry now. This trade is horrible. Absolutely horrible. We get a player who doesn't get many sacks. Then we gain picks that are total garbage picks. We didn't even get half the value of Myles. Not even HALF.

MG didn't want to be here.
MG has - several speeding tickets over 90 mph? After rolling his care a few years ago.
We all know the chance of the Browns having a viable QB on the roster right now is slim to none. And if slim hasn't already left town, he's getting his tack ready.

All that means you get whatever you can for him. I have to believe that whatever the Rams have offered is the best deal out there with a team MG was willing to accept as a trade partner.

I'm more than happy with the trade even if it might appear to some as we got short changed ... MG is 30. He's got 2 elite years in him. Him might be very good for another 4 after that? He's a freak of nature. But see my first comment above, he did not want to be here and I do not blame him one bit.