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I said they have their own intel. I said that if Iran can deliver a nuclear device to us they can also deliver one to them. Pay attention.


I highly suggest you take this into consideration..................

"I always thought it was me against the world and then one day I realized it’s just me against me."

So you think European intelligence agencies have the same level of intel on Iran that Mossad and the CIA do? I doubt they even tell Trump all the details because he's a blabbermouth that would burn sources (and he'd get bored if they tried.)

In theory, yes, Iran or their proxies can deliver elsewhere. Yet, there's no indication that they intend to deliver anything anywhere other than Israel or the US. The people with the direct threat are more likely to take a situation more seriously than those only threatened indirectly, especially when the undertaking is expensive.


I think you're projecting again and should take your own advice. My eyes are open, and I'm not the one fighting myself.

I have already shown you how there were European nations with intel that was far more accurate than our own in regards to Iraq having WMD. Yet they trusted U.S. intel over their own which led to a huge mistake on their part. I know you have yourself convinced that the U.S. is the best at everything, all the time. But that's simply not true.


Not only is there an indication of it, there is proof of it...............

Saudi Arabia: Strikes on key energy infrastructure, including the Shaybah oil field, and Prince Sultan Air Base.

United Arab Emirates: Missile and drone attacks causing fires at oil facilities (like in Fujairah) and debris impacts near Dubai's Al Minhad Air Base.

Bahrain: Direct strikes targeting the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet Headquarters and local refining infrastructure.Kuwait: Heavy ballistic missile and drone interceptions over U.S. and allied facilities, including Camp Arifjan.

Qatar: Drone and missile attacks targeting the Al Udeid Air Base.Iraq: Multiple strikes on military sites (such as Jurf al-Sakher) and areas near the U.S. consulate in Erbil.

Jordan: Interception of drones and missiles over U.S. and allied installations, including the Muwaffaq Salti Airbase.

Syria: Escalation of strikes by Iran and affiliated militias against U.S. and allied outposts.

Cyprus: A drone strike hit the British RAF Akrotiri military base.

Anyone that are allies of the U.S. in the region have been struck. You know, nations Iran is actually capable of striking.

As much as you wish to minimize, rationalize and skirt around the facts, not only has Europe refused to back us in battle ships, aircraft carriers and ships of war even just show force alone and defend the Strait of Hormuz, they even refused to send mine sweepers to help clear the strait. Yet they were there in Afghanistan and they were there in Iraq.

And before you go off on another back alley stroll, if there is any president in my lifetime Europe would capitulate to it would be trump. He has already hit them with massive trade tariffs. He has threatened to back out of NATO. They know just how vindictive and punitive he can be. Since you brought up financial ramifications.

Earlier you blamed it on what I read in the media and the usual blah, blah, blah BS the right uses. But none of that is needed. Anyone keeping up with things knows what I just posted is true.

All one needs to do is read actual quotes from trump and see how Europe reacted. All you need to do is see that Europe was there for us in Iraq. They were there for us in Afghanistan and they are not there for us now. You can look at our allies in the region to see that Iraq will attack any of our allies they can reach by the strikes they have conducted since the start of this "excursion".

And if anyone would punish them for it, it would be trump.

Not to muddy the waters, but simply to add, NATO allies refuse to let American forces use their bases to fuel planes for proactive strikes against Iran. That goes beyond. Just not turning up and supporting the war effort. They do not believe the war is justified. And that is not because they want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

That isn't muddying the waters. That serves as an exclamation point.

Well I don't think the other person is having an honest conversation... I don't want a comment from me to derail whatever the talking point of the moment is. But yes, if Europe thought Iran was close to a nuclear weapon, then they would have joined in the efforts in Iran. They did not and they do not.