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It's a good trade,frees up salary that can be used to resign that perv QB.
Go Browns.

What does do this do for the cap? I thought trading Myles was not in the cards because of his huge salary. Will the Browns be completely free of his contract for the ‘27 season?

Maybe, maybe not. We know we will have 2 1st rounders to trade next year. It sounds like we will pick up a 2028 2nd rounder which could allow is to give up that 1st rounder as well.

I can see why anyone would think that - but at the end of the day it's a bit like selling your house. It doesn't matter what you think it's worth, it matters what someone will offer you for it.

Who knows what commitment/promise was made to go along with the re-signing a couple years ago? And I will maintain, if the guy is steadfast in not wanting to play another losing season for the Browns, then get what you can and let him go. I may not always think highly of Berry's draft picks - but he's shown a good level of competency in his trade negotiations. I would have to believe this is the best deal available and taking it is better than refusing it and keeping an unmotivated player with a penchant for speeding on your roster.

That parallel only works if you are 100% committed to selling your house. We didn't HAVE to trade the cornerstone of our defense... unless we are attempting a rebuild of some scale. If it's a rebuild, then I say commit to it and trade Ward as well.

Thank you for posting that. I'm reading it now, and that article is stating that the draft comp could be more than the 3 picks disclosed? If so, now we're talking.

On the other hand, your house can't ask you to sell it. And houses don't have no trade clauses which limit the potential buyers.

From Myles perspective, it may have been LA or bust. His GF was born and raised in Cali, lives, and trains there. Plus, he wanted to go to a contender.

We don't know what we got yet. There's a non-zero chance Verse ascends, Myles descends, and the Rams perform below expectations, and the picks will have to work themselves out wherever they end up landing.

I don't love it, but I don't hate it. I think some people are undervaluing Verse.

I would argue Parsons did NOT bring more...

Parsons trade brought the Cowboys:
30 year old Kenny Clark(worth about a 3rd round pick), not the same level as Verse. MAYBE worth a 2nd on his own, probably would trade as a 3rd on his own.
2026 first (20 overall)
2027 first

Garrett
25 year old Jared Verse(worth your second 1st round pick, if traded today on his own, I would be shocked if he didn't bring a first round pick. He has lived up to his #19 overall draft pick.
2027 first
2028 second
2029 third

We won't know what the value of the later picks are until the seasons end obviously, but a 2nd and 3rd can obviously = a first.

My point here is, I believe a 25 year old Verse entering his prime is worth a lot more to a defense than a 30 year old Clark who was declining.

Obviously we would then have to debate the value of Parson's vs Garrett as well.. We are probably biased towards Garrett, but it is 30 year old Garrett vs 26 year old Parsons.

I forgot about the no-trade clause. Good point.

I think I'm getting hung up on only 3 picks spread over 3 years. I'm not sure that's enough ammo to go and get yourself a legit QB prospect.

With Garrett we have drafted:

2018 1st overall
2019 traded for OBJ (16th overall)
2020 10th overall
2021 26th overall
2022 traded for Watson (13th overall)
2023 traded for Watson (12th overall)
2024 traded for Watson (23rd overall)
2025 2nd overall
2026 6th overall


WITH Garrett, we have finished with top 10 draft picks 4 out of his 9 seasons here. Only twice have they picked in the 20s.

So, if they pick outside the top 10 without him this year, does that make this post a moot point?

Verse averaging 6/7 sacks a year? He is only in his 3rd year of his rookie contract. Myles didn't have 23 sacks in his first two years... He had 7 in his first year, then 10.5 his second year.

If Verse turns into a double digit sack player with 20+ QB hits, he will be in the top 5 pass rushers in the NFL. He might not be Myles in his prime, but he will be a cornerstone of the Browns defense.

We will have to see where he ends up.

The part we are all overlooking is that the Browns will continue to be a lower half of the league team searching for a way to make the playoffs every few years or so, with or without Myles. He is now 30, that is going to start declining in the coming few years. He was traded after he got the record for sacks in the entire NFL... which landed us a #6 overall draft position.

At the end of the day, they have to fix the QB spot to become a consistent winner. They will probably need draft capital to be in a position to get one. I don't think they will be bad enough to get the #1 overall pick, with or without Garrett. Berry managed to get Myles replacement AND extra draft capital to help make the move in next year's draft.

We don't know that... Myles might have made that "HAVE to trade" reality. I don't think he goes the entire off season without talking to his new head coach if he wanted to be in a Browns uniform in 2026. I think this was probably initiated by him.

I'm liking it, we were not going to the Super Bowl in the time that MG has left. If he was ever to be traded, now was the time. Did we get a fair return? IDK, we can only wait and see...

I’m not going to bother to read any other posts because I’m sitting on a beach in paradise and just read the news.

I think it’s a great trade. It was gonna happen before or after the season regardless, I was confident it would happen and said so multiple times. It was our only move left for securing a QB in next year’s feeding frenzy. Yes, it’s likely to be a low 1st but it likely makes our pick slightly higher than it would have been. Our D may not single handedly win games this year. But who knows, the Verse trade essentially makes it 2 firsts plus the rest. He’s just coming into the start of his prime as Garrett is just going over the top of his peak.

From a strategic standpoint I give it an A+. It’s always a bummer to trade your best player and on the very short list of best ever for the franchise but I really do like where we’re headed. 2 very good drafts and teed up for next year. We very well may be a QB away.

Yea, we’ll likely need to make another move next year but this was a must
To get into position. We now have a team to root against!

So Boo Rams! Suck it!

This is about where I'm at. I think it's a solid trade for the Browns...

How would you grade the trade for both sides?

Browns: A

Rams: C-

The Super Bowl-favorite Rams just dealt for the reigning Defensive Player of the Year coming off a season in which he broke the single-season sack record ... and yet it should be Browns fans celebrating this trade. It's a mighty acquisition for Los Angeles, but it's a massive return for Cleveland -- more than should have reasonably been expected, even for Garrett.

Garrett has been a first-team All-Pro in five of the past six seasons, recorded at least 12.0 sacks in each of the past six seasons, won Defensive Player of the Year two out of the past three seasons and ranks second to only Micah Parsons in both pass rush win rate and pass rush wins over the past four years. But critical to this trade grade is the evaluation of Verse, who might go overlooked in this deal but absolutely should not. He has 12.0 sacks and a 15.3% pass rush win rate at edge (62nd percentile) over his two seasons in the league. That pass rushing undersells his impact, though, because Verse is one of the best run-stopping edges in the league; he ranks second in run stop win rate at edge behind only Maxx Crosby in that span.

The Browns are not contenders in 2026 and are probably a stretch to contend even in 2027. It makes sense for Cleveland to take this deal. But I do not think this is good team building for the Rams that will maximize their chances of a Super Bowl over the next several seasons. There is a clear drop-off from Garrett to Verse, but it's not like Los Angeles is filling a hole here. Add in the massive pay disparity between the two players -- even if both are values relative to their worth -- and it makes it even harder to justify.

The 2026 Rams are better today than they were yesterday. But the cost to the 2027-2030 Rams is too much to justify, and the Browns will reap the benefits. -- Seth Walder ESPN


Now I'll point out the rest...

1. Myles was a ticking time-bomb. Psychologically and physically. The last thing we could afford would be for him to have gone off the rails during the season and demanded a trade. The second worse was the other fuse-a major injury. He's 30, he plays a violent sport, and he's never had a major injury. Not only is that bound to happen (eventually), there could be no worse situation for the Browns than for it to happen this season.

2. Myles wasn’t going to bring a Super Bowl to Cleveland. While he might have won one if he stayed long-term, the gap between our team's reality and his individual brilliance as a 'game-wrecker' was becoming too wide to ignore.

3. Lastly, meaning for the 4529th time, Myles is not NASTY. I've been screaming for NASTY for about a decade now. Even some complementary players around him that played with a short fuse would have worked. Myles sacks you and helps you up. He yucks it up with the opposition the entire game. The only time he's ever seemed angry, it cost him a six game suspension.

Jared Verse IS nasty. He plays with violence, he talks trash, he leaves you lying on the field. He's a tone setter. High motor, speed for days, relentless bull rush.


Now, the flowchart for overcoming natural objections:

Myles was gone... if not this season, next season. Many people wanted (2) 1st round draft picks. Those obviously wouldn't have come in the first season. So... you would have a HUGE hole on defense and a first round draft pick two years in a row.

From that standpoint, we basically got Verse for a 2028 1st round pick, right? And no hole on defense.

Also, we can moan that the Rams pick will be a low 1st round pick. ALL picks in a Myles Garrett trade would be low picks. The only teams willing to ante-up are teams that think he puts them over-the-top, right? Did anyone think someone like the Jets or the Cards would ante up that kind of bank for Garrett? That doesn't happen because teams that suck that bad can't afford to take that risk. And oh yeah, Garrett has a no-trade clause.


I love Myles. It was an absolute pleasure watching him play here in Cleveland. I hope he has a ton of success in what remains of his career. I think this was the right move... for Myles and for the future of the Browns.

Couldn’t agree more. Except the Nasty thing. I don’t think it matters frankly, nasty or no, every offensive game plan had to be made around Garrett. I love Verse and agree that he may wear off on his teammates more than Garrett (who seemed to be on a personality island) but Garrett not being nasty was never an issue.

Still, I think this was inevitable and necessary and that they got Verse in return makes this a massive win. Yes, they likely still have to make a move to get up higher in the first round next year but they have most of the hard to get ammo now.

We’re on a 2028-29 dome opening timeline. This aligns perfectly with that. Garrett was never going to be here that long. Plus… there’s a very solid chance a 29yr old phenom who’s never had health issues starts to have health issues riiiiiight about this season. Then what’s the trade value? Pulled the trigger at the right time imo.

j/c:

Overall, I think people (in general, not just here) aren't fully realizing the value of Verse in this trade. He is a first rounder who is worth more than where he was selected (Rd. 1, Pick 19), still has years left on his contract plus the fifth year option, is five years younger, and has been to the Pro Bowl every year he has been in the NFL plus was the DROY. There has been so much angst about not getting another first rounder but sometimes getting the known first rounder is better.

From what I gather, LA preferred to give up more draft capital (most likely another first round pick) instead of giving up Verse. I think that says a lot in this deal.

The person made happiest by this trade is Joe Burrow.

I dusted off my 64 memories of an NFL Championship when I was 16......sad most Browns fans have never seen them as Champions. At 78 I'd love to see us make a Super Bowl....stinks I've seen them all and never had Browns jerseys playing there.....hope eternal....JMHO, Garrett trade smart business, as a football player he has no peers, as a driver on Ohio streets he was a loser/ poor citizen. Go Browns!!!!

Bone I usually see eye to eye with you on the many topics here but this time I have a small disagreement with you. I love Myles and am sad to see him go but I think it was time. We got some good draft picks in return and a very good player who is younger with upside. Myles will be 31 in December and more prone to injuries. We aren't going to contend for a SB in the next 2 years and after that Myles will probably on the downside of his career. Possibly Verse and other players we acquire with those picks will help us get to a SB. This should also help us with our cap space. Right now, we all have an opinion and nobody knows who will be right or wrong. I honestly think it was a solid trade for both teams. It's all a matter of conjecture and will have to play itself out. I wish MG the best and hope he wins a Super Bowl! Best of luck Myles and thanks for the great memories!!

...Until he gets hit by Jared Verse.

It might actually be Chloe Kim.