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For everyone crying about Schwartz not being here blah blah the defense blah blah Let's give the Jags credit. Its a good offense Schwartz feasted on weak offenses and middle of the road QBs. Jim Schwartz isnt Buddy Ryan . Last time I checked Hes unemployed right now .
The Browns front office simply failed to upgrade the QB position this year .there was options better than Watson .but dont worry Mary Kay Kool Aid And Nathan the Super Homer will paint a sunshine and lollipops picture This week . He's unemployed because the Browns owned him for another year. Just because he quit, doesn't mean he can go coach another team, while the Browns retain his services for 2026. List the options at QB in the 2026 off season that would have made this past Sunday better. Sanders? Maybe, still not sold. Off the roster? Who would have made that giant leap to even a 3 point loss instead of a 24 point loss? This team was lost and unless they look more like a professional team 17 weeks from now, I will do what I have never done before, champion a one and done for Monken. He preached the penalty issues of the past will be gone.. well, that was a fail, among many other issues...
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I think the entire team gave up after the Watson INT, or at least that really defeated them. Jags literally pinned us down from that point on I certainly won't dismiss your point here. I don't know if it's accurate or not but I can certainly see how someone may arrive at that conclusion. I would say it's most likely one of two things. Either your opinion is correct and this entire team quit as soon as they was any sign of adversity or this coaching staff had them totally unprepared to take the field. I mean when it comes to the O I get it somewhat. I wasn't expecting much from them because of the many reasons that have been posted. But I mean it was really, really ugly. The D is a different animal all together. They took a HUGE step backwards! And what we know from witnessing last season as bad as that was, is that the talent on this D is much better than what we saw on the field against the Jags. So on one hand we have to think or believe this team as a whole lacks any motivation at the first sign of adversity and they will just roll over and play dead. As I said above that's certainly a possibility. But at the same time that would indicate we have no leaders on this roster. No players that can rally the troops. And we would also have to believe that the players on this roster became pros and to the NFL level with no fortitude to fight back. Or we would have to believe that this coaching staff lacks the ability to properly prepare and motivate this team at the fist sign of trouble. I'm not sure which one would be worse.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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This team was lost and unless they look more like a professional team 17 weeks from now, I will do what I have never done before, champion a one and done for Monken. He preached the penalty issues of the past will be gone.. well, that was a fail, among many other issues... I'm not giving up on Monken yet ... if things continue over the season like this then I'll be right there with you. In fact I think another 3 or possibly 4 games is enough to expect to see a difference in many aspects ... #1 amongst them being preparedness and not looking like the team doesn't have a clue.
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Bone said it best,upper management considers this a wasted year.Just as championship teams start from the top down,so do losers.I don't expect to see much difference at all this year,or next for that matter. Off topic here,but I just received an add about a Browns whiskey glass on sale.That's good marketting.
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Did they also have an ad for Brown's anti depressants?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Bone said it best,upper management considers this a wasted year.Just as championship teams start from the top down,so do losers.I don't expect to see much difference at all this year,or next for that matter. Off topic here,but I just received an add about a Browns whiskey glass on sale.That's good marketting. Did they also have an ad for Brown's anti depressants? When combined, you could have a much better experience than the rest of us.
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Yes! Just don't purchase the Browns-branded rope and chair.
HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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 That was a good one! 
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Is it possible the team in general just doesn’t like Watson and really doesn’t want to play for and with him?
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Is it possible the team in general just doesn’t like Watson and really doesn’t want to play for and with him? That's not really in anyone's own best interest.
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Did not watch the game, but what I noticed post-game is that no one is complaining about special teams
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Special teams had some nice returns. The return games certainly look better than last year. But then, it's only one game.
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There are 230 million reasons why DW is playing.
Haslam cannot admit that it is time to move on. It was time to move on years ago but the Browns traded all of their draft choices away.
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I am pretty sure that Monken feels that DW, even with his flaws and failings, is still better than Sanders.
That doesn't say much for Sanders.
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Is it possible the team in general just doesn’t like Watson and really doesn’t want to play for and with him? YES
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Is it possible the team in general just doesn’t like Watson and really doesn’t want to play for and with him? That's quite possible I suppose. But if that is impacting their performance in any negative way on the field I don't think it would be purposeful. The future of their careers depend on their performance. How much they will get paid in the future depends on their performance. It would be a classic example of shooting yourself in the foot. But I think there is certainly validity to your mental state directly impacting your physical performance. Motivation is a key element. But if the long term financial security of your family can't motivate you, what can? The article bone posted in Tailgate about Joe Thomas shows us that for some, this game is much more than a paycheck. But often times that isn't the case.
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