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Easy win for the Steelers today (sighs)......

Of the 3 things you can't do? We excelled - in the wrong way. Penalties, turnovers, and sacks.

I thought Watson did better under center

I don't like him in the shotgun

It hurts the run game

He rolls back so much and still gets sacked

Judkins doesn't seem to see the holes to run through

The O line opened up holes and he goes where all the defenders are

Monken needs to give up play calling and the team needs a real OC

5-3 is second best in the AFCN

Can't complain much

Better than 1-7

I Hope the Browns get a chance to knock the Steelers out of a play- off game and the Browns advance

This game in no way has me worried about upcoming games

GO BROWNS !!!

the first drive set the tone. We win the toss, elect to receive, and then Watson gets dinged in the head, our OL collapses, and we fumble.

We were simply out manned on the OL and DL unfortunately. Our run D is a major concern.

Hopefully we have a better performance next Sunday

You forgot stopping the run.

- Embarrassing loss against a division rival. Regular season losing streak is up to 23 consecutive losses when playing in PIT.
- Defense played like crap and seemed uninspired from the jump. Our run defense continues to be the atrocious. Good thing we play NO next week who has close to no running game.
- Verse seemingly did nothing to back up his mouth but Pittsburgh easily backed up their response. The guy looks like all bark, no bite so far.
- Watson held the ball too long at times, but think the vast majority of the sacks were because of the Oline, which played bad in both pass blocking and run stopping IMO. I'm sure going up against the Steelers line played a part but it was still bad. I'd be interested to hear others' opinions that subscribe to the larger field view that might be able to chime in on any consistent coverage problems that led to those sacks???
- The weekly, voluminous OL penalties are nauseating.
- Career day by Fannin. Good for him.
- This loss feels like the JAX loss in Week One.

I"m growing concerned about Verse too. He almost seems like a net negative at this point.

I'm also afraid that Carson is injured and/or being exposed for being over aggressive

There were a few good things (Fannin, Watson et al...) but far too many areas that need addressing: penalties, run defence, poor tackling, etc. Disappointing loss but predictable...

Agreed. I meant to include that. He doesn't look 100%...Not sure he is 75%.

Spot on team performance. Verse ran his mouth and did NOTHING to back it up.....did get slammed to ground. We got out toughed in a drastic way.
I'm thinking our D, linebackers with ankle injuries just can't keep up with offensive backs.....performance hurt to nagging injuries, but best we have so they are out there. Having lost for decades in Pittsburgh, I wish they'd shut up and play hard....don't talk till you have accomplished something.

For Sanders lovers, we got a short taste of what he can do.......not much in small sample....Perfect percentage his fans will scream, ZERO production.

Browns Offensive line got exposed big time today. They are really bad at picking up blitzes and both Tackles got owned. McLaughlin is a blocking liability, he is horrible. Watson in the shotgun 99% of the time sucks. Rushing out of the shotgun is too hard, especially with no play action and Watson still holds the ball way, way too long. Our run defense continues to be very bad.

Fannin is a beast and makes you forget about Njoku in the passing game. KC should have been a much larger part.of the game plan. Play calling definitely was not the greatest and very predictable with very little creativity and calls to defend against the constant blitzing. Bad coaching on all 3 sides. The offense folded against a real Defense.

You win the toss, you defer especially since our 1st Quarters have been embarrassing all year.

Judkins is starting to have Trent Richardson vision when it comes to seeing open holes.

I don't like what happened today but being honest I'm really not surprised.

I was a little surprised to see this too. My only guess as to why they took the ball was perhaps they thought, if they scored early, PIT might shy away from the run which I assumed the Browns knew to be one of their weaknesses. Again, just a guess.

As a follow up to this.....I'd hope/expect the Cleveland media to challenge Verse on his comment now that we got spanked and he couldn't back it up.

Are we BLESSED to have a HC who speaks the TRUTH. He said we earned the loss and he's off to the next game. Players know they played a very poor game. HC said it all, but on to next game- we earned 5-3....we need to play better and earn the next win.....GO Browns!!!!

I don't like Pittsburgh, but they have a winning culture. We had it in the 50s and 60s, hope the culture of winning shows up, again....GO Browns!!!

I feel like our run defense is worse with graham in there. Am i the only one who thinks this?

I am glad this game didn't get flexed to the night game. So is the NFL and the network.

Verse is a waste