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Myself, I don't care for trash talk from anyone.

Completely agree, but I am old and remember when players tossed the ball back to the ref on TDs.

Hopefully Verse starts playing like he was expected to.

Here is the Verse presser today and he talks about it

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/jared-verse-press-conference-november-5th-2026


This is the Carson Schwesinger Press Conference, he speaks on it.


https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/carson-schwesinger-press-conference-november-5th-2026


Verse is new to the AFCN and he simply may have been trying to fire up his teammates knowing and being new to the rivalry and the fact the Browns haven't won a regular season game there in 23 years.

The whole team stunk not just Verse

we can tolerate an awful lot if you are producing and we are winning ... unfortunately he's been horrible and has been doubling down on the trash talk, which directly led to the Steelers destroying us

In terms of his play, I don't see anything of value thus far.

I think Verse has the attitude and fire that is needed for the defense to take the step to the next level. I will admit that he needs to do more, but his fire is needed to push others to the top of their game.

I don't mind a little trash talking but if you're going to do it back it up at least somewhat. I heard that Verse has to get used to the D we play in comparison to what he played with the Rams. That's fine if true but how long is the learning curve going to be? He has the talent and the attitude to be a leader on this team but he needs to back it up with his play.

Much like arch I don't care for the trash talk by players. But if you're going to trash talk, have the resume' and ability to back it up. Vers lacks that.


The Steelers had beaten the Browns 22 times in a row at home prior this game. I think laying the loss at the feet of Vers over a little trash taking is quite a reach.

The way the Steelers ran through and over our 'D' maybe Verse should move to MLB

I'm not a fan of trash-talking, but I know some players thrive on it.

With that said, Schwesinger says a lot. There is a lot to read into his presser.

Is everyone happy with Verse?

I'm elated with Schwesinger.

It's not about how things start, it's about how they end. There are still 9 games to go. Let's see how the rest of the season goes before we start looking to trade the guy. I am not ready to write off his first 2 seasons as flukes and this seasons sample as the reality. I'd also caution that there might be some comparing to Garrett. I'd say 98% of players are going to look inadequate when viewed in those terms.

Verse just needs to play his game and not try to fill the ghost of Garrett.

[quote=bonefish][color:#FFCC33]I am not positive but it seems like he is not being used as a pure DE.
I agree that he is not being used properly . He does not seem to be fast enough to play in the wide nine scheme .

The most logical comments I've read about Verse are that he was a 4-3 DE in college and thrived. He came to the NFL and they wanted him to be a 3-4 Edge and he thrived. He has trained to be the stand-up Edge since he was drafted...right up until he was traded. Now he's a traditional 4-3 DE. Might take an off-season to get back to what he was in college.

I'd make that trade still today.

I agree. I mentioned the same thing on an earlier post. I think Verse will be fine given more time.

Here is my only issue with your post.


Your very next statement was this........


You can't have one without the other.

If he plays like crap here who would offer him some huge contract? To further his career and future contractual wealth a player has to be playing well while he's here.

"I'll take mumbo-jumbo that would make more sense if it were the exact opposite for 200, Alex."

So they should just trade him now when he's at the lowest value point in his career? Sure...

Yet he has said nothing to indicate that he doesn't want to be here. At best you're playing connect the dots here.

How long will players listen to someone who has ZERO sacks and few tackles. He's in new system and division.....our coaches need to do a SERIOUS review of his LA tape and the full season tape here BEFORE he's given second contract/ or big payday.

again today, really did nothing positive for the defense. I truly don't see him as a pass rusher. Maybe an edge setter or maybe move him inside. But he's not getting anywhere near thE QB

I wonder if we could flip him for a 2nd.

I'm only half-joking.

Verse doesn't fit. Minor production at best. What is he worth in trade?

I said it before but I honestly wonder if we need to switch him back to OLB or move him inside to salvage him. Right now he's like the worst starting DE in the league

It says a lot about him, when the Saints were on the goalline, he was not even in the game

I'm with you on that. He didn't just forget how to play on the plane trip to Cleveland and this nonsense that he is playing so badly because he doesn't want to be here is fools gold. Jared Verse's current rookie contract runs through the 2027 season, with the Cleveland Browns facing a decision on a fifth-year option for the 2028 season in the spring of 2027. Unless he is a total moron no rookie would, having had such a great start in the league, undermine their future career earnings just because "they don't want to be here".

I'm not sure how much different the D system in Cleveland is or how much different his roll as player is here verses L.A. but something drastic has changed.