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its amazing that some of you think that we abandoned the search of osama...

Kinda miss that old whacky Iraqi despot already.

Its a shame his legacy has officially been terminated with the dirt nap.
His boys sure would have been something to behold. Yes, a rival to that Iranian whack job the world will surely miss. imo, Three years ago a soldier could have yelled "fire in the spider hole" and dropped something extra nasty on Saddam back then but history doesn't work that way so we won't know what life in Iraq today would be like if Saddam wasn't so painstaklenly kept alive for the past three years.
- water under the bridge

One more bridge burned to the past gone forever.
good riddance

Know what ? People think bc no audio/video released showing OBL alive and well is proof he IS alive and well and doing just fine ! <img src="/images/graemlins/saywhat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" /> wtf !
Can't proove OBL is dead til the mountain he is sleeping under is moved. jmo and I haven't been prooved wrong

<img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> That is some of the funniest crap I have read in a while. You run your mouth about why we should be where and how soldiers dying is justified and that you are glad we are at war but admit to being a coward when it comes to putting your ass on the line? Typical keyboard cowboy. You have an opinion but it isn't strong enough for you to put your ass behind it ? Pathetic. Military service isn't for everyone and being in doesn't give you any more knowledge about this mess than someone who never served but it burns me up to here people thumping their chicken chests and beating the war drum when they NEVER had the balls to enlist . Oh they'll give you a million reasons why they never did or point to a friend or relative that has served or is serving , like it gives them a pass for not doing so all the while telling everyone why we should be there and what it takes to win. <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />

Actaully it does, it give you hands on knowledge of what happens in war then what civilians just read in the papers or the internet... People who have been there do know more then the average civilian who just get there information from a media source, and the media doesn't know everything, as do most civilians...

I've been there and trust me I read alot of crap spewed on these boards by people who have no clue about what it means to serve...

No, what I meant was it doesn't give you any special insight as to the workings of the reasons as to why we are there . I agree that it gives one the idea of what the guy on the ground goes through although that too is different for every soldier .

I still beg to differ... I had a Top Secret clearance... I DO have more insight on what happens, and still to this day I am not allowed to discuss certain things... Does every soldier have this No, but don't think for one minute that your getting all the information because of things you hear from media sources, if you believe your getting all the facts then your just fooling yourself...

Without 9/11, the Bush administration never gets a crack at Hussein. No one would've supported the flimsy, manipulated case for war during peacetime.



This is an untested hypthesis...when Bush does something positive enough to overshadow the ineptness of his administration, we'll see if the media ignores it.



There must not be much of an enemy then...an overwhelming majority of what we're fighting is Iraqi citizens. 'The enemy' may be supplying money and weapons, but their boots aren't on the ground.


I can't stand people who talk about how they *almost* enlisted, as if that means anything.

http://pandachute.com/uploads/videos/250.wmv

better hurry up and look before it gets deleted

Must've been deleted - at least your link. I went to pandachute.com and saw it - most of it........really bad video, but you sure get the gist of it.......

Rather brutal, as I watched it, and as I think of it.......

New link...

The jackass is dead

Hope this lasts...

Top Secret clearance ? When I was in you had to have that in order to use the thermal sites on a T.O.W launcher so that doesn't mean a whole hell of alot to me. As far as getting the facts...whose facts are we talking about . Everyone from CNN to the U.S. Armyto Al Jeezera distorts the (facts ) that the population at large see so not having all of the facts is something I am used to . It is how one reads between the lines from the information at hand that give you an idea of what the real 'truth' is . That includes taking in information that is in direct conflict with what you have been told.
I'm sure I am telling you nothing that you don't already know so please don't take this the wrong way . There is enough B.S. going around about Iraq that sometimes I wonder if anyone has a clue anymore.

That is crazy, I hope every gets to see that.

Ehh. No big deal really.

http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2...-7DE3T-XBfd4ZJg
I think it without a doubt it was a video image captured by a camera phone somebody may have had pinned to their jacket or something. It's a bit of history that was released on the net less than 19 hrs after the actual neck stretching. MSM would never show that one let alone the head chopping done by the "freedom fighters".

The sanitized look of Saddam shown by the media makes him look more saintly and acceptable to the soft pallets of our western journalists. <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />
So detached from reality they are

I'm going to guess without watching it that they hung him and he died.

It's true. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

he's dead, jim.

Phil and Lamp, I just think it is a historical moment and I hope people can see it.

I tried to get jaft's link up and it wouldn't play for me.

I think it's cool watching videos of people biting the big one when it's a slimebag like Saddam. I know that's morbid, but it's neat-o. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Show me the neck-snap!!!

I just don't really want to watch someone hanged. I think it's kind of sick and animalistic. I'm glad the guy is dead, and that's as far as it goes from my end.

Not trying to knock you or others who want to see it or have it be seen...JMHO.

Here ya go phil, a kinder,gentler image more suitable

thanks for bringing that up Christyk,,, it seems America has forgotten about Bin Laden. Thanks for reminding the readers of this thread,,,,

At least he did report for duty.
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Suddam!

One man that will never rest in peace! <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

There is a link up to the video off of Drudge Report. I thought I wanted to see it, but once they tied the nooce around his neck, I decided that it wasn't for me. I'm glad that he is no longer in power, but I didn't want to watch him killed.

Just clickin, How do we know they really executed him???? I don't trust the "terrorist" countries as far as I could spit, and I can't spit very far.

Watch the video, that has to be more than enough proof.

I didn't have a problem at all watching the video.All the media outlets are talking about how disturbing the photos and video are.
The photos that I find disturbing are the photos of a mother holding her baby in her arms that this scumbag gassed and the children grasping their mothers leg after being gassed.This POS had no regard for human life,so why should anyone giva a damn about his.I for one am glad he's gone.I just think he got off to easy by being hanged.It was to fast.

I don't think anyone's mourning his passing...some people just don't want to see another human being killed. Not saying it shouldn't have happened - just don't want to see it.



I can understand your sentiments, but I for one don't believe in torture or cruel and unusual punishment.



They're as equally as disturbing as photos of mothers holding their babies that American bombs blew to pieces.

I say that not to register a complaint against the war, but rather to bring up the fact that we despise treachery and violence from our enemies, but cheer for it when it comes at our hands. For or against the war, I will always have an indelible image of Americans cheering with vigor during the 'Shock & Awe' campaign, and it will always sicken me.

I agree with that 100%,but that happens during a war unfortunately.It bothers me to see any child harmed for any reason.
He did this to his own people.It's hard to say just exactly how many people he has killed that were put in mass graves that haven't even been discovered yet.

The infamous gas attack took place in mid-March 1988 in the Kurdish town of Halabja, the crossroads of an ongoing battle waged between a joint Kurdish-Iranian force and the Iraqi army. Caught in the middle were innocent civilians, including women and children.

http://hnn.us/articles/862.html


I believe that was also American made and donated gas. With intelligence and tips on its use provided by the CIA. Do a little googling and you will find we have been in bed with Sadaam since he was a young man attempting to asassinate the Iraqui leader at the time. We set him up, and we knocked him back down. Just like a piece on a chess board.

Hmmmm.....

The majority? What did you do, conduct a poll? Terrorism is worldwide. Have you forgotten who the true enemy is? It's not the Iraqi's....it's Al Quada...and they are WORLDWIDE.



Funny, I could have sworn our commander-in-chief said it was to rid Iraq of it's weapons of mass destruction.



My brother in law enlisted immediately after 9/11 happened. Left his brand new wife and two kids behind. He's home safe and sound now, with all 4 limbs intact...one of the fortunate ones you can say....

But it's a good thing you listened to your buddy and didn't join, Blade....God forbid you should fight in this senseless war that you whole-heartedly support.

Well that didn't take long. I kinda expected it but not so soon;
So you believe this was as staged ? Like the NASA moon landings ? Robots flying into the WTC and all the other tin foil hat area 51 conspirecies ?

Camera phones are as phoney as ipods and the internet must be a tool of some RW conspirecy <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

How Washington and London helped to create the monster they went to war to destroy
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
Published: 31 December 2006

When they hanged him, he was America's vanquished foe, likened to Hitler and Stalin for the murderous evil of his ways. What is forgotten is that once, for more than a decade, Saddam Hussein was staunchly supported by the US.

Indeed, it was Washington that supplied him with many of the weapons of mass destruction the dictator used against his foes - weapons that one day would serve as a pretext for the US-led invasion that toppled him.

The dealings between the US and Saddam's Iraq over the quarter of a century before 2003 are a story of deceit, miscalculation and strategic blunders by both sides. And they began, as they would end, in the shadow of a common enemy: Iran.

Saddam seized complete power in 1978. Two years later he attacked Iran, in what he called an "Arab war against the Persians", to overthrow the Islamic revolutionary regime.

Washington was under no illusions about the brutality of Saddam's regime. But as Tehran gained the upper hand in the fighting, he came to be seen as the lesser of two evils - a vital bulwark against domination by a radical, anti-Western Iran of the strategically vital Gulf region, with its colossal oil reserves.

Quietly, the US delivered the technology, weapons and logistical support to prevent Iraq's defeat. Its policy was symbolised by the cordial meeting in Baghdad in December 1983 between Saddam and a certain Donald Rumsfeld, then President Reagan's special envoy to the Middle East. Two decades later, as Secretary of Defence, he would plan the invasion that toppled Saddam.

American assistance often took the form of dual-use technology that had legitimate civilian uses, but which Washington was well aware could (and would) be used on the battlefield. US intelligence also provided Iraqi commanders with crucial information on Iranian troop movements.

American backing grew ever more explicit. In 1982, the administration ignored objections in Congress and removed Iraq from its list of countries supporting terrorism. By November 1983, the National Security Council had issued a directive that the US should do "whatever was necessary and legal" to prevent an Iranian victory. Washington did nothing to deter Saddam's use of chemical weapons.

As the 1980s progressed, a clandestine network of companies developed in the US and other countries to help the Iraqi war effort. The conflict between Iraq and Iran ended in 1988, but Saddam continued his Western-supported military build-up until the very moment he invaded Kuwait in August 1990.

It would be the turning point. Until then, the US had dealt with Saddam in the context of keeping Iran at bay. Thereafter, however, the Iraqi dictator was the enemy in his own right. The irony, of course, was that America's previous support encouraged him to think he could get away with annexing Kuwait.

Indeed, just a week earlier, on 25 July 1990, the American ambassador, April Glaspie, had met Saddam. According to a transcript of the meeting, she informed him that Washington had no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts, "like your border disagreement with Kuwait".

The US-led coalition drove Iraqi forces from Kuwait in a 100-hour ground war, but the first President Bush decided not to press on to Baghdad, creating the stalemate that in one form or another continued until 2003. In the meantime, however, the truth gradually emerged about how the US (and Britain) helped to create the monster they had now half-slain.

Events thereafter make familiar reading: Saddam's moves against the Kurds and the Shias, as the first President Bush encouraged them to rise up but did nothing to support them; a dozen years of sanctions that brought misery on ordinary Iraqis but not to the regime; and Operation Desert Fox in 1998, as the US and Britain launched their heaviest air attacks until the 2003 war itself.

All the while, Saddam remained in power. Almost from the moment he came to office, the second President Bush had his eye on finishing his father's business.After a three-week ground war he was duly overthrown. But in doing so, the US has achieved exactly what it sought to prevent when it backed him in the 1980s.

It is a matter of debate whether Iraqis are now worse off than under Saddam's dictatorship. The chaos in their country, however, has produced one undisputed winner: an unchecked Iran, more menacing today than in Ayatollah Khomeini's time.


Source

stabber53
Why was all of Saddams military hardware Soviet/Russian made?
He had a few French jets but I don't see Rupert Cornwell in Washington hint at the what weapons created the fourth largest military in the world.

LOL
Of course,somebody will post an article about the massive amount of arms we supplied to Iran to use against Saddam if things start to swing the other way



And Saddam was quoted on record he saved the Arab world from the Persian hordes ( so he shouldn't have to pay back the war loans ) They say in his last words he included a blurb of "Down with the Persians" or something like that.

Things run deeper than what Rupert Cornwell in Washington reports and gets paid writing about. Maybe Ruperts next article,for equal time, should tell Putin to stop selling arms in poor third world regions to tin pot dictators ? btw, What are the arms sale production projections for 2007 looking like ? And why do countries that can't feed their own people buy them ? Is it because they cost less than made in the USA label ?

naw, nobody wants to read about that. Besides,to critisize Putin isn't worth losing your life.

Because its cheap and numerous, but thats not what we supplied.




You know, things like Anthrax, Mustard Gas and Nerve agents. you might say we gave him the software. Thank god for our troops that we knew exactly where those facilities were and had time to bomb them out of existence before they could have been used against us. Might have given Rummy a hard time sleeping at nite otherwise.

It is estimated that about 5% of the violence in Iraq comes from sources outside of Iraq as of the last study I saw.

The other 95% comes from sectarian violence from within their own country. That's hardly the "majority of the terrorists". A lot of them are resting peacefully in Pakistan. Probably laughing as they read the morning paper sipping tea. And in Africa,Lebanon,the Gaza Strip and several other locations around the world.

Mean time,we're stuck in the middle of a civil war in Iraq. Unless of course Blade,the "almost soldier" has decided that all Iraqi civillians are terrorists,he obviously doesn't have a clue!

How funny is that,that a guy so hell bent on supporting this war,didn't have the kahunna's to back up his convictions? I don't think he has much validity to keep spewing venom untill we see him in uniform,do you?
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