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OK so I understand that more than half the citizens asked responded that they were looking for a change in the next election. OK, so I understand people are sick of GWB and the Iraqi conflict.
What else?
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There's a lot I would like to see changed. But I don't realistically see much of any of them getting changed. Unfortunately, I think it really doesn't matter much who gets in the white house. I don't see much changing in the way things are going to be run.
I don't see anyone doing much a worse job than GWB though. He's had a hell of a tenure and seen some of the worst situations of any of our presidents and overall I'd say he did a very poor job of managing the country during them. Not saying I could have done better.....(ok, yes I could have. but still). 9/11, the string of Hurricanes that smashed the lower 48 over the course of a few years (Katrina receiving the most attention of course, but there were 10 other hurricanes that did damage). Not to mention the War on Terror to maintain (right or wrong).
The economy sucks right now. They can pussyfoot around the word recession all they want, but it's here. Spending is down, unemployment is down, and the general public is very cost conscious right now.
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Economic Policy, foreign policy outside of Iraq, falling dollar, government spending, social security reform, etc...
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It's terrible that these are the things I want changed as well.....all from a Repubican president. As a Republican it's disgusting.
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the string of Hurricanes that smashed the lower 48 over the course of a few years (Katrina receiving the most attention of course, but there were 10 other hurricanes that did damage).
 I live in Ohio. When did we (last I checked we were part of the lower 48) get hit by a hurricane?
Oh, I see. You meant the states that got hit by hurricanes recently - the ones that got hit by hurricanes prior to that - you know, 10 years ago, and 50 years ago, and 100 years ago.........the states that border the oceans, especially around the south eastern part of our country.
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basically, exactly the opposite of what they are doing....repeal of NAFTA, immigration reform, healthcare reform, take care of our own before we try to "nation build", figure out some way to curb the deficit. And no, I do not think any of the top 3 in either party running are going to do a thing. 
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They are speaking about a change from the elite, out-of-touch, in the pockets of special interest politicians that infest Washington...
...most of them fit the mold they speak against.
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Obama, Paul, and Clinton's major change would be the almost immediate troop withdraw from Iraq.
The rest talk about a better economic strategy and tighter borders.
Recent polls heavily favor the Democrats to win the election. The only GOP candidate who is close has been McCain.
Add to the fact that if Bloomburg or Ron Paul decide to run as independents, it will only hurt the GOP's chances even further.
It still amazes me that in 2004 the democratic party couldn't find someone to defeat Bush.
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If you think Clinton would remove the troops from Iraq quickly you are hallucinating. She is the least likely of the Dems or even Ron Paul to pull the troops from M.E.
She once again proves that she is the "best man" in the Democrat group of candidates!
"Add to the fact that if Bloomburg or Ron Paul decide to run as independents, it will only hurt the GOP's chances even further."
Once again you may be off track. Bloomburg especially will hurt the Democrat candidate more than the Repub. All Repub. realize that Bloomburg is a Democrat running as a Repub. only because he can't win a Dem. nomination...he won't affect the Repub. vote at all...he will take a significant percentage of the Jewish vote and other New Yorkers from any Dem.
Paul's run would hurt both sides equally well I believe and therefore is a non factor. Do not count your chickens before the eggs hatch.
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I think the thing that bothers most americans the most are as follows.
1) It is apparant that the war in Iraq was started with a Bush agenda. The fact that Bush never did deliver on his promise to get bin Ladin still bothers me. So much for the you're with us or you're with the terrorists comment.
2) The poor response to Katrina.
3) The partisan politics in Washington by both parties. Each party hates the other so much, Clinton for the Monica thing, and Bush for the Iraq thing, they cant agree on anything, so nothing gets done. I will use the immigaration thing as a further discussion point, Kennedy and McCain put together an approach, which fits the criteria desired by Bush, and it can't get passed, because it is not "tough enough" so nothing get done.
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Half the country wants to change by getting conservatives out of office... the other half of the country wants to change by getting REAL conservatives into office... 
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"Half the country wants to change by getting conservatives out of office... the other half of the country wants to change by getting REAL conservatives into office."
Sure wish I would have said that, thanks.
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Spoken by a true Democrat..."I think the thing that bothers most americans the most are as follows.
1) It is apparant that the war in Iraq was started with a Bush agenda. The fact that Bush never did deliver on his promise to get bin Ladin still bothers me. So much for the you're with us or you're with the terrorists comment.
2) The poor response to Katrina.
3) The partisan politics in Washington by both parties. Each party hates the other so much, Clinton for the Monica thing, and Bush for the Iraq thing, they cant agree on anything, so nothing gets done. I will use the immigaration thing as a further discussion point, Kennedy and McCain put together an approach, which fits the criteria desired by Bush, and it can't get passed, because it is not "tough enough" so nothing get done."
Counterpoint 1. Bush's Iraq Agenda- The decision was made to get Osama and Saddam at roughly the same time. One seems to have been more difficult than the other but is still in progress.
It really is tough to drop tens of thousands of troops into Afghan or Pakistani mountains so we went to Iraq with them and more mobile into the Afghan area.
Counterpoint 2. Katrina was a mix up by every gov't agency state,local and federal but who gets the blame. The one group the farthest away from the damage...HMMMM!
Counterpoint 3. McCain/Kennedy is a weak program as is the damn McCain Feingold campaign finance bill. McCain could be elected fairly easily if he still resisted talking to the creeps on the other side as much on Capitol Hill as he did in the Hanoi Hilton!
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Things I want changed:
immmigration reform
social services reform(all social services not just social security)
smaller government that also spends less
tort reform
I would also be open to a flat tax system but I am already pushing my luck...LOL
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
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OK so I understand that more than half the citizens asked responded that they were looking for a change in the next election. OK, so I understand people are sick of GWB and the Iraqi conflict.
What else?
Record mortgage foreclosures.
40 million Americans with no health care.
Corperate tax loopholes.
Giving back the rights to the people of our nation that we've been robbed from predicated on fear.
Playing out diplomacy rather than "pre-emptive war" as a strategy. I NEVER want a president who starts wars first and asks questions later.
I could go on, but I'll let you attack those points first!
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Counterpoint 1. Bush's Iraq Agenda- The decision was made to get Osama and Saddam at roughly the same time. One seems to have been more difficult than the other but is still in progress.
Is that anything like hearing "A customer representative will be with you momentarily" when actually, three hours later, you're still waiting?
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It really is tough to drop tens of thousands of troops into Afghan or Pakistani mountains so we went to Iraq with them and more mobile into the Afghan area.
Sounds like a dandy excuse for sending three more times as many troops after a guy who had NOTHING TO DO with 911. Using the fear of the people and "claims" that they were tied together.
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Counterpoint 2. Katrina was a mix up by every gov't agency state,local and federal but who gets the blame. The one group the farthest away from the damage...HMMMM!
So then it would be your supposition that the state of Louisiana and or the city of New Orleans has the resources to deal with a disaster of such magnitude in the first place?
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No, McCain could be winning if he hadn't been turned into a "Bushie". He used to be the Maverick that everybody loved. Quit fooling yourself Ralphie, independant voters decide elections. And McCain lost many of us the moment he started following Bushes lead.
Now? He's pretty much dead in the water. Well, I don't know. Now he has enough "party insiders" that he may pull it off. But his strategy? He's blown the general election.
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the string of Hurricanes that smashed the lower 48 over the course of a few years (Katrina receiving the most attention of course, but there were 10 other hurricanes that did damage).
I live in Ohio. When did we (last I checked we were part of the lower 48) get hit by a hurricane?
Oh, I see. You meant the states that got hit by hurricanes recently - the ones that got hit by hurricanes prior to that - you know, 10 years ago, and 50 years ago, and 100 years ago.........the states that border the oceans, especially around the south eastern part of our country.
Actually, you were impacted by the hurricanes. Just because you didn't see the 75mph + winds doesn't mean you didn't see the flooding rains from them. Ohio, mostly southern Ohio, but some middle portions and the upper east counties like Trumbull, Ashtabula and Erie, PA got 10+ inches IIRC from them. And the eastern seaboard and gulfcoast were smashed with them. Want the names? Here are the major ones. Catagory 3 or above, generally classified as a catastrophe.
2004 ( 16 named storms)
Charley ( Catagory 4)
Frances ( Catagory 4)
Ivan ( Catagory 5, it reached Cat 5 intensity 3 times)
Jeanne ( Catagory 3)
2005 ( 31 named storms )
Katrina ( Catagory 5)
Rita (Catagory 5)
Wilma (Catagory 4, with massive flooding)
There are more, but these two years, back to back impacted the entire United States, not just the immediate areas. Rescue crews from all over were here to assist. And the flooding from the rains gave the middle states some very soggy conditions.
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So then it would be your supposition that the state of Louisiana and or the city of New Orleans has the resources to deal with a disaster of such magnitude in the first place?
It would be my supposition that the state of Louisiana and the city of New Orleans have the first line of responsibility which is notification, evacuation, and shelter establishment. Tasks, at which they failed so miserably, that they made any federal effort 20 times more difficult than it needed to be. The federal government is not without blame, that's for sure... we'll just see how it goes the next time we have a major natural disaster like that I suppose
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I do not hold the "government" of New Orleans or Louisiana "blameless".
But it does baffle me when people make statements that cause me to believe they feel the federal government bares no responsibility in this as well.
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But it does baffle me when people make statements that cause me to believe they feel the federal government bares no responsibility in this as well.
I hope it's sort of like your "credit by percentage" thread... and people are just picking on the ones who they feel deserve THE MOST criticism and not all of it. Nobody is without fault and that includes many of the residents who made ZERO effort to protect themselves...
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So then it would be your supposition that the state of Louisiana and or the city of New Orleans has the resources to deal with a disaster of such magnitude in the first place?
Louisiana and N.O. did not have the resources to deal with such a disaster on their own. However, they have had years of notice that their walls were deteriorating and would fail if a Hurricane hit them directly or even close. Yet they did nothing to fix the issue. The city was so poorly managed in a crisis by the mayor that it baffles me how he got into office. Then again, the FEMA screwups were compounding the issue and that falls squarely on the chin of GWB. And that makes me wonder how the guy got appointed to run FEMA at all since he had ZERO emergency management experience IIRC.
It was handled extremely poorly by the City, the State and the Feds. There is noone who is blameless in that Catastrophe.
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You forgot to blame the French who established a city below sea level and right beside a HUGE freakin' river... 
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Well I do know that when the city of San Diego had it's wildfires and 300k people were evacuated, that FEMA still came into town about 2 days after the fact ... and nobody seemed to notice because the city and, to a lesser extent, the state had their acts together.
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Well I do know that when the city of San Diego had it's wildfires and 300k people were evacuated, that FEMA still came into town about 2 days after the fact ... and nobody seemed to notice because the city and, to a lesser extent, the state had their acts together.
BINGO! That is exactly what I'm talking about.
Same thing here in Florida. We went through all those hurricanes, but you never hear about us. Reports come out that Florida is hit by another Hurricane (remember, Hurricane Katrina nailed the Florida Keys, Miami and Ft. Lauderdale before it ever went close to N.O.). But yet, that is the extent of it. 4 years later, we're still talking about how bad it was in N.O, but not a mention of Florida cause we handled our evacuations properly and took the necessary precautions.
Albeit, we had a similar situation to them in 1992 when Hurricane Andrew annihalated Florida City and Homestead and forced us to take the necessary precautions.
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I won't get the change I wish. I'm looking for somebody who'll be willing to take a stand that the Constitution belongs to the American people and is not owned by the Supreme Court. Too bad Thomas Jefferson isn't running.
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Reports come out that Florida is hit by another Hurricane (remember, Hurricane Katrina nailed the Florida Keys, Miami and Ft. Lauderdale before it ever went close to N.O.). But yet, that is the extent of it. 4 years later, we're still talking about how bad it was in N.O, but not a mention of Florida cause we handled our evacuations properly and took the necessary precautions.
To be honest, had the levees not broken, we wouldn't be talking about N.O. either.. it would have been a 4 month news cycle... instead of 4 years.
If you want to blame the federal government for anything, blame the last 40 years of neglect to the levees since they knew this was going to happen someday....
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I agree. And that's exactly where I place the majority of the blame. The city and State knew about the Levees for years and years.
The feds screwed up with FEMA. The guy in charge was a joke and the response time was dreadful and the services were far from adequate. And that goes not just for N.O., but also the gulf coast of Mississippi and Alabama as well.
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Change? Right! The only thing that our legislators can accomplish is raising their own pay and benefits.Unless thats the change you want, forget about change. You'll only be disappointed.  
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That's what I live by and to hell with the rest of it!
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No, McCain could be winning if he hadn't been turned into a "Bushie". He used to be the Maverick that everybody loved. Quit fooling yourself Ralphie, independant voters decide elections. And McCain lost many of us the moment he started following Bushes lead.
Now? He's pretty much dead in the water. Well, I don't know. Now he has enough "party insiders" that he may pull it off. But his strategy? He's blown the general election.
Of all the GOP candidates, McCain is the only one who is even close when pitted against Clinton or McCain (he polled only 1-2% points behind both. Guliani is the next closest but hes been polled at 8 points back. And his campaign dead? If he wins Michigan and South Carolina (which hes projected to do) and takes florida where he is currently 2nd he is almost assured as the GOP nominee
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Jobs.....with out a job it dosent matter what the soaring cost of health care is or the high price of gasoline, or the cost of inflation the housing industry taking a dump, without a job nothing really matters except caring for your family.
This is why I dont get into political discussions 1, cause I dont know that much about it, 2. if someone is running for office and there is something else more important than keeping the people who voted them in office working than I dont want them in office. Keep me work caring for my family and than I'll work on other agendas, global warming dosent mean squat to ya if your living under a bridge or in a shelter, replacing light bulbs dosent mean squat if you cant pay your electic bill. Bring home job.....
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I was far more talking about the general election. If anything, the 04 election proved poling is no indication of reality.
What I can tell you, is reports coming out of the primary show independants swinging from McCain to Obama.
McCain has become to "mainsteam party line" and has lost his edge with independants.
The McCain in 2000, could have won. The McCain of 08 may have his party, but not the populous vote.
But then again, I guess if you can't win your partys nomination, you never get to run. I guess we all make trade offs in life.
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I still don't believe so as per CNN Poll: Eventual GOP nominee faces tough general electionStory Highlights Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would get over half the vote, poll finds John McCain is the GOP candidate nearly tied with Democratic front-runners Mitt Romney has the highest percentage of people who definitely will not vote for him By Rebecca Sinderbrand CNN Washington Bureau WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Republican presidential field appears to face a tough general election fight in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Saturday. John McCain was the most favorably viewed of any GOP candidate, a poll found. According to the survey, both of the Democratic front-runners, Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois, hold mostly double-digit -- and statistically identical -- advantages over Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee, drawing greater than 50 percent support in each hypothetical matchup. The Republican candidate who gives Clinton and Obama the closest race in the new poll is Arizona Sen. John McCain, who is essentially tied with both: He draws the support of 48 percent of those surveyed to Clinton's 50 percent and Obama's 49 percent. Clinton leads the front-running candidates of both parties -- Obama, McCain, Giuliani, Huckabee and Romney -- in the percentage of voters who say they would definitely vote for her if she won her party's nomination, with 37 percent. But she trails the pack in the percentage of voters who do not support her, but say they might consider voting for her under those circumstances, with 19 percent. Obama is second to Clinton in potential voters who say they would definitely vote for him in the general election, with 30 percent. McCain, who is third in that category with 22 percent, is first among voters who say they'd consider voting for him if he were the Republican nominee, with 35 percent. The poll contained some worrying news for Romney: 62 percent of those surveyed say they will definitely not vote for the former Massachusetts governor in the general election, compared with just 13 percent who say they will definitely support him -- the worst showing of any of the major candidates. The poll also suggests that two of his GOP primary opponents might also face an uphill climb this fall, with more than half of those polled saying they would definitely not vote for either man in November: 55 percent said they would not consider backing Giuliani, and 52 percent said the same of Huckabee, a former governor of Arkansas. Just one other candidate in the race, McCain, competes with Obama in both categories, with a favorability rating of 54 percent and an unfavorability rating of 29 percent. McCain is the only Republican included in the poll with a favorability rating of greater than 50 percent. McCain's closest GOP competition in the favorability category appears to be Giuliani, former New York City mayor, at 46 percent favorable to 39 percent unfavorable. In the unfavorability category, Mike Huckabee is viewed negatively by just 30 percent of those polled -- but viewed positively by just 38 percent. One-fifth of those polled have no opinion of the former Arkansas governor. The Republican Party seems to have made a bit of a comeback from a June poll that found it was viewed unfavorably by 53 percent of the country, though more Americans still say they have an unfavorable than a favorable view of the party, 48 to 41 percent. The numbers for the Democratic Party are 55 percent favorable and 34 percent unfavorable, also a slight improvement over their June showing, 51 percent favorable and 38 percent unfavorable. The telephone survey of 1,033 Americans, including 840 registered voters, was conducted January 9-10, and has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 3 percentage points. The hypothetical matchup results came from the registered voters; that poll had a margin of error of plus-or-minus 3.5 percentage
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Reports come out that Florida is hit by another Hurricane (remember, Hurricane Katrina nailed the Florida Keys, Miami and Ft. Lauderdale before it ever went close to N.O.). But yet, that is the extent of it. 4 years later, we're still talking about how bad it was in N.O, but not a mention of Florida cause we handled our evacuations properly and took the necessary precautions.
To be honest, had the levees not broken, we wouldn't be talking about N.O. either.. it would have been a 4 month news cycle... instead of 4 years.
If you want to blame the federal government for anything, blame the last 40 years of neglect to the levees since they knew this was going to happen someday....
You mean the levees that broke - the ones that federal money was sent to upgrade, right? The money was spent on flowers, and parties, and all kinds of things other than fixing the levees.
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the string of Hurricanes that smashed the lower 48 over the course of a few years (Katrina receiving the most attention of course, but there were 10 other hurricanes that did damage).
I live in Ohio. When did we (last I checked we were part of the lower 48) get hit by a hurricane?
Oh, I see. You meant the states that got hit by hurricanes recently - the ones that got hit by hurricanes prior to that - you know, 10 years ago, and 50 years ago, and 100 years ago.........the states that border the oceans, especially around the south eastern part of our country.
Actually, you were impacted by the hurricanes. Just because you didn't see the 75mph + winds doesn't mean you didn't see the flooding rains from them. Ohio, mostly southern Ohio, but some middle portions and the upper east counties like Trumbull, Ashtabula and Erie, PA got 10+ inches IIRC from them. And the eastern seaboard and gulfcoast were smashed with them. Want the names? Here are the major ones. Catagory 3 or above, generally classified as a catastrophe.
2004 ( 16 named storms)
Charley ( Catagory 4)
Frances ( Catagory 4)
Ivan ( Catagory 5, it reached Cat 5 intensity 3 times)
Jeanne ( Catagory 3)
2005 ( 31 named storms )
Katrina ( Catagory 5)
Rita (Catagory 5)
Wilma (Catagory 4, with massive flooding)
There are more, but these two years, back to back impacted the entire United States, not just the immediate areas. Rescue crews from all over were here to assist. And the flooding from the rains gave the middle states some very soggy conditions.
Nice post. I think you missed my point. Hurricanes happen to states along the gulf and along the atlantic. They do today, they did yesterday, and they did 50 years ago, and they will happen in the future.
Sure, here in Ohio we had some rian. Know what? The low lying areas flooded. It's not rocket science.
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Pit wants.the following...
"Record mortgage foreclosures.
40 million Americans with no health care.
Corperate tax loopholes.
Giving back the rights to the people of our nation that we've been robbed from predicated on fear.
Playing out diplomacy rather than "pre-emptive war" as a strategy. I NEVER want a president who starts wars first and asks questions later.
I could go on, but I'll let you attack those points first!"
Seems like 5 points of concern. The first 2 points about foreclosures and socialized medicine requests are not within the duties of the Federal gov't as specified by the Constitution so I assume you want the states to handle them---fine by me!
Corporate tax loopholes...hmmm...this is a federal concern but since corporations NEVER PAY TAXES themselves...THEY ONLY COLLECT TAXES FROM CUSTOMERS...it makes little difference in the scheme of things,Pit.
Fourth, ah yes! the famous...my rights have been stolen by the Patriot Act battle cry...only problem is no one can ever show how they were affected by this. Only those we read about have any examples...you know, that one guy...er, what was his name???
Finally, "I never want a President who starts wars first and asks questions later." So we never talked to Saddam's regime before attacking? We never went to the UN about the problem???? Sad memory.
BTW, Pit, since you dislike wars engaged by American Presidents against foreign nations without a direct attack by said foreign nation.................
how about WWI engaged by Pres. Wilson without direct attack. How about FDR declaring War vs. Germany in WWII even though it was Japan which attacked? Also in Korea Harry Truman engaged the N. Koreans without an attack against us.Then how about Kennedy engaging the N. Vietnamese in SE Asia although they never attacked America?
Of note was the fact that all these Presidents were of the Democrat party...we understand why the wars were fought even though the Korean and Vietnam conflicts had little diplomatic discussion before conflict. In contrast the Iraqi problem was debated for years in the UN before the military engaged.
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, .
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"I won't get the change I wish. I'm looking for somebody who'll be willing to take a stand that the Constitution belongs to the American people and is not owned by the Supreme Court. Too bad Thomas Jefferson isn't running."
Yes, if we could realize that the US Constitution means what it says and not what someone tries to fit into it we'd all be better off.
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, .
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Record mortgage foreclosures.
See what happens when the federal gov't. gets involved and mandates that banks loan to high risk people?
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40 million Americans with no health care.
That number is quite up to debate. In just seconds of perusing, I found the mainstream media says anywhere from 40 to 87 million are uninsured. How on earth can the number of uninsured range anywhere from 40 mil to 87 mil? Who does this "figuring"? 
I also found that, when you take away the people that qualify for federal health care (medicare) but haven't yet applied, when you account for those that could afford it but have chosen to forego it (generally the young, "healthy" people), when you account for the fact that many are without because they have recently changed jobs and do not yet qualify for the new health insurance.............when things like this are taken into account, some say the number of uninsured is under 10 million.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56742 I've seen this in a number of places, not just here. However, that doesn't suit Hillary - those numbers don't look near as impressive, do they? Apparently it doesn't fit someone else's view, either.
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