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You complain about the NFL being proud of having it's first black crew chief in a superbowl,
Not sure "proud" is the correct word. I believe "being PC" is more accurate.
And you know this how? Do you work for the NFL?
If he is worthy and earned this, then he should be proud of his accomplishment and the NFL should be happy it made the right choice, not because of race, but because the best interest of the NFL is served...
If he got this over a more qualified person because he's black, then the NFL should be ashamed, because the best interest of the NFL is not being served....
In the end, we shall never know for sure... but considering that I tend to look for the best in people, until I hear otherwise I will assume he earned this spot and I hope he is all but invisible on Superbowl Sunday... which will mean he and his crew did a good job. 
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What's being PC about it? PC or not, they didn't have to say anything at all!
So what's PC? Do you even know what that means? PC would be to instead of saying black ref, it would say african-american ref.
It was their choice to announce it, nobody forced them to. Get your story straight
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What's being PC about it? PC or not, they didn't have to say anything at all!
So what's PC? Do you even know what that means? PC would be to instead of saying black ref, it would say african-american ref.
It was their choice to announce it, nobody forced them to. Get your story straight
The AL Sharpton's (biggest racist in the country IMO) of the world forced them to. And yes, it was a PC PR move.
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You complain about the NFL being proud of having it's first black crew chief in a superbowl,
Not sure "proud" is the correct word. I believe "being PC" is more accurate.
And you know this how? Do you work for the NFL?
If he is worthy and earned this, then he should be proud of his accomplishment and the NFL should be happy it made the right choice, not because of race, but because the best interest of the NFL is served...
If he got this over a more qualified person because he's black, then the NFL should be ashamed, because the best interest of the NFL is not being served....
In the end, we shall never know for sure... but considering that I tend to look for the best in people, until I hear otherwise I will assume he earned this spot and I hope he is all but invisible on Superbowl Sunday... which will mean he and his crew did a good job.
I agree, I didn't bring up the race issue, nor did anybody else, other than the NFL, if that's how they chose to say it, then their proud of the strides that they have made...that's their choice.
Nobody was protesting the NFL about not having a black ref in the superbowl. If you polled 100 black people about the issue, I doubt any of them would've known there had never been a black ref. I'll they would be proud of Carey, but not really care. Most are more focused on the possibility of a first black president, than a black ref.
In addition, I don't think they could've picked a better REF, then Carey...he's one of the best in the league, and he deserves to call the biggest game of the year.
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Sorry, have to correct you.
No problem.....and using the traditional context of the word, or how it has morphed in that meaning you would be correct.
You can go across the world, through the ages, people tend to flock to people of like nature. Just instinct is my guess. Color, religion, what have you.
Only when you try to repress people of a different mold do you have a problem.
No doubt people of African heritage have been repressed in European culture....that was, is, and always will be wrong.
Every time I mention what I did, people get up in arms, but it IMO is the truth nobody wants to face.
I don't think there will ever be a homogeneous society....racially or religiously. Kind of like oil and vinegar. You can shake it up and get something close, but without constant shaking, it will eventually separate.
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Show me where Al Sharpton forced them to do this.
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Don't waste your time arguing with him man....it's a lost cause...
Who? Navy?
I already know...this is the same person who told me that black people should've have been grateful for slavery!
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He deserves it .. GREAT REF ... make NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT ...
he does not deserve to be thrown into any generalizations or profiling that are going on here .. he is a top 3 Ref in the league ..
he is way abouve the crap his thread has turned into ...
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Carey got the game because he desrves it .. no doubt .. GREAT REF ...
but if u believe that people like Sharpton and Jackson and like groups have nothing to do with every facet of major league sports and their officiating then your either real young, real naive or just IGNORANT on the subject ...
do u think the NFL just decided for the hell of it to DICTATE to all the teams in their league that if they didnt at least interview a minority for HC positions they could face possible sanctions than your dreaming ...
This is a bigger waste of time than the QB deadbate ... let me know when u all discuss religion, politics or abortion ... *LOL* ...
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Carey got the game because he desrves it .. no doubt .. GREAT REF ...
but if u believe that people like Sharpton and Jackson and like groups have nothing to do with every facet of major league sports and their officiating then your either real young, real naive or just IGNORANT on the subject ...
do u think the NFL just decided for the hell of it to DICTATE to all the teams in their league that if they didnt at least interview a minority for HC positions they could face possible sanctions than your dreaming ...
I'm done here ... as this is a bigger waste of time than the QB deadbate ... let me know when u all discuss religion, politics or abortion ... *LOL* ...
We're not talking about coaching...we're talking about the refs...I won't downplay the impact that Al Sharpton has had on loosening the good ol' boy grip that had a hold of professional sports. However, it was necessary, and I will not apologize for feeling that way. The Rooney rule is not forcing NFL teams to hire minority coaches, just forces them to interview some people that they might not have normally interviewed...and thankfully, some people have benefitted from it, not solely because there were black, but because they were deserving. As far as I could tell, the owners aren't complaining about the Rooney rule, only the know-it-all fans are.
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I don't think there will ever be a homogeneous society....racially or religiously. Kind of like oil and vinegar. You can shake it up and get something close, but without constant shaking, it will eventually separate.
I actually agree w/that. There is too much fear, ignorance, and hate on both sides. Throw religion into the mix and it becomes even more complicated. There has been more bloodshed spilled in the name of religion than for any other reason. Of course, greed is always a motivating factor. *L*
I wish it weren't so, but I really don't think our society will ever be homogeneous.
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Wow... so much ado about absolutely nothing at all... First of all, the NFL didn't write this article. It only announced (without comment and/or fanfare) who the SB crew was going to be as the league does every season at this time. It was the Associated Press who picked it up and wrote a very short article noting that Carey happened to be the first black referee in a SB. NFL.com merely linked the article to their site because it had something to do with the NFL (as is the website's practice). So let's stop with the notion that the NFL is "trumpeting" their progressive nature by publishing an article about this move. They didn't write the article. Second, if you REALLY don't care that Carey is black, why all the protest about politcal correctness? I would think that if you REALLY didn't care, you'd simply move on without any comment at all. One can't help but wonder if, for every cry of "I hate political correctness," there is really some deeply-rooted seed of bigotry that has been tweaked by the mere mention of another "first" for a person of color. Look, like it or not, we're going to see articles about the "first" {insert minority category here} until race, gender and any other societal label you can think of is truly no longer an issue and the opportunities available to folks in this country are truly equal. We've come a long way since the days of Jim Crow laws, but we still have a long way to go before we can say that we've arrived at the promised land of equal opportunity for all people. I found nothing offensive about this particular article that merely acknowledged a footnote in NFL history. Frankly, I'm surprised it ellicited anything more than congratulations to a fine referee. Perhaps I shouldn't have been surprised... 
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There in lies the problem...we all don't have to be homogeneous to live life....when we celebrate our differences isntead of making them a issue is when we will live a better life...
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Wow... so much ado about absolutely nothing at all...
First of all, the NFL didn't write this article. It only announced (without comment and/or fanfare) who the SB crew was going to be as the league does every season at this time. It was the Associated Press who picked it up and wrote a very short article noting that Carey happened to be the first black referee in a SB. NFL.com merely linked the article to their site because it had something to do with the NFL (as is the website's practice). So let's stop with the notion that the NFL is "trumpeting" their progressive nature by publishing an article about this move. They didn't write the article.
Second, if you REALLY don't care that Carey is black, why all the protest about politcal correctness? I would think that if you REALLY didn't care, you'd simply move on without any comment at all. One can't help but wonder if, for every cry of "I hate political correctness," there is really some deeply-rooted seed of bigotry that has been tweaked by the mere mention of another "first" for a person of color.
Look, like it or not, we're going to see articles about the "first" {insert minority category here} until race, gender and any other societal label you can think of is truly no longer an issue and the opportunities available to folks in this country are truly equal. We've come a long way since the days of Jim Crow laws, but we still have a long way to go before we can say that we've arrived at the promised land of equal opportunity for all people.
I found nothing offensive about this particular article that merely acknowledged a footnote in NFL history. Frankly, I'm surprised it ellicited anything more than congratulations to a fine referee. Perhaps I shouldn't have been surprised...
Nice post...When I first read this thread, I was thinking the exact same thing...what's all the ruckus for?
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Don't waste your time arguing with him man....it's a lost cause...
Who? Navy?
I already know...this is the same person who told me that black people should've have been grateful for slavery!
No, like I said then...
Slavery was a bad thing. It should have never happened. God knows I wish it never happened. However, if black people didn't sell black people into slavery for America, you wouldn't be here today, you if alive would be probably part of some tribe in Africa living and celebrating your heritage.
But it did happen, and here you are. I am glad your here. But I could still give a crap about the first black this or that. The sooner you and those like you assimilate yourselves into society, the sooner racism will die. When you can celebrate a man's first this or that without having to "celebrating a black man's first", we will be closer to racial harmony. It a sad shame, you can't or are unwilling to see this.
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I will never assimilate myself into a society that disrespects cultural differences, the same society that taught you that I should be happy slavery brought me here...you can have that all to yourself.
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Can I assume then that you are not assimilated into any society? Since segments of every society do this?
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I will never assimilate myself into a society that disrespects cultural differences
Your accusing an entire society, when really it's just part of it, and as DC said, all society's and cultures do it.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I will never assimilate myself into a society that disrespects cultural differences, the same society that taught you that I should be happy slavery brought me here...you can have that all to yourself.
I'm curious....If I had such disdain for a society and it's people and thought it was such an awful place I certainly wouldn't live there. I'm curious as to why you would want to live in a place where you dislike the society and people so much.
I complain about things in this country but, you really seem to dislike it in general. Maybe I'm reading you wrong.
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I will never assimilate myself into a society that disrespects cultural differences, the same society that taught you that I should be happy slavery brought me here...you can have that all to yourself.
I'm curious....If I had such disdain for a society and it's people and thought it was such an awful place I certainly wouldn't live there. I'm curious as to why you would want to live in a place where you dislike the society and people so much.
I complain about things in this country but, you really seem to dislike it in general. Maybe I'm reading you wrong.
That's easy..
He knows how good he has it here and knows he wouldn't survive in as he put it "his homeland".
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Actually, to carry on with my previous points, I am convinced that segregation is the solution to many of the problems.
I feel it would be a much more peaceful world if we had white land, black land, yellow land, brown land....Christian land, Islam land, Jewish land etc.
In a school, if you have 2 boys that fight each other for various reason, the teacher doesn't make them sit together,,,,,they are separated....put in different classes in many cases.
The mixing of cultures, races, religions can lead to many clashes.
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Navy you really have no grip on what real America is like right now...
I'm sorry it's one of thoes things that you won't understand unless you are a minority...
I don't know any minority on this board that would not be shaking their head after reading your posts in this thread...you sound completely ignorant and retarded in this thread...i'm NOT calling you names..just telling you what you sound like..
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I'm not sure that would solve problems....the world isn't a classroom..please don't simplify a issue that is so complexed by saying segeregation is the answer... I don't know why it's so hard to acknowledge that everyone is different..and respect that fact...have mutual respect for the differences and move along in life.. okay i'm done NOW 
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Thank goodness.
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Can I assume then that you are not assimilated into any society? Since segments of every society do this?
You're missing my point...I didn't say America...I said a society that produces someone like Navy...I don't want any part of that.
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Agreed, and I am a white guy. I also agree with Peen that we will never be truly a harmonious society, because of the stupidity that both sides display in situations like this. People like Sharpton, Jackson, and your average redneck racist are that way for a variety of reasons that I don't believe can never be eradicated................fear, ignorance, stupidity, and most importantly greed. That is why Peen's separate idea would never work. As soon as black land made more money than white land (or vice versa so I can appease all you racists...lol) then you would have a racist politician from white land playing on the fears and GREED of his constituents, and war would ensue. It has happened countless times throughout history..............Hitler and the Germans jealosy of the perceived successfullnes of the Jews comes screaming to mind. Furthermore, I think this is the contributing factor to the world wide hatred of the US right now...............especially in a place like the Middle East where they can also throw religion in the mix.
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I will never assimilate myself into a society that disrespects cultural differences, the same society that taught you that I should be happy slavery brought me here...you can have that all to yourself.
I'm curious....If I had such disdain for a society and it's people and thought it was such an awful place I certainly wouldn't live there. I'm curious as to why you would want to live in a place where you dislike the society and people so much.
I complain about things in this country but, you really seem to dislike it in general. Maybe I'm reading you wrong.
That's easy..
He knows how good he has it here and knows he wouldn't survive in as he put it "his homeland".
I would survive just fine
I don't know how "good" I have it here, but it's better than being in some worse places...no doubt.
I wouldn't miss the snow...that's for sure
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He deserves it .. GREAT REF ... make NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT ...
he does not deserve to be thrown into any generalizations or profiling that are going on here .. he is a top 3 Ref in the league ..
he is way abouve the crap his thread has turned into ...
If this was not made a public matter on him being the first black ref....
While watching the SB...who would have even noticed ?
He`s a good ref....And this should make for a good game....
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You're missing my point...I didn't say America...I said a society that produces someone like Navy...I don't want any part of that.
Funny you say that. People like yourself had a big part in producing someone like Navy.
Oh, and In case you missed it, America IS the society that produced someone like Navy. So yes, you did in fact say America.
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You're missing my point...I didn't say America...I said a society that produces someone like Navy...I don't want any part of that.
Funny you say that. People like yourself had a big part in producing someone like Navy.
I had nothing to do with you, you're older than I am.
I've never told you what you could and could not refer to yourself as. I've never told you say that black people should be grateful for slavery.
I have nothing to do with your racial biases as you've never met me or spent time with me.
I can't say you've influenced me in the slightest. I don't know you, all I know about you is you seem to think that I can't call myself African-American, and that I should thank my lucky stars that some African sold my ancestors to some European and now I've got the great fortune of living in America. That's pretty much my take on you. But with all things said by those of abundant ignorance, I take it with a grain of salt.
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You're missing my point...I didn't say America...I said a society that produces someone like Navy...I don't want any part of that.
And you're missing my point... I didn't say America either... I said that every society produces people like Navy... and people like you... and people like me... and GM and Coach and Jules and (well, except for Iran...  ) ..... so if you want to be a part of ANY society, all of the elements are going to be represented. If you ever find a society, which is not hand-selected, which does not have all elements, please let me know.
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Only part that really matters because you are fortunate to have been born here and I'd bet you would agree because even with it's problems this is still the best country in the world .
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It almost makes you feel sorry for them, doesn't it?
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Actually, to carry on with my previous points, I am convinced that segregation is the solution to many of the problems.
I feel it would be a much more peaceful world if we had white land, black land, yellow land, brown land....Christian land, Islam land, Jewish land etc.
In a school, if you have 2 boys that fight each other for various reason, the teacher doesn't make them sit together,,,,,they are separated....put in different classes in many cases.
The mixing of cultures, races, religions can lead to many clashes.
I disagree. Factionalism is not a pre-made concept; it is a result of one homogeneous group discovering there is a difference between some members. From this point, it is the insecurity of human nature causing fear that motivates the division. There have been places like "Christian land" and what ended up happening was the members still found reasons to divide. It is the nature of humanity to cluster for some perceived mutual benefit, consciously or unconsciously. So to anyone who thinks assimilation will bring racial harmony (Navy) you are dreaming.
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It almost makes you feel sorry for them, doesn't it?
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You're missing my point...I didn't say America...I said a society that produces someone like Navy...I don't want any part of that.
And you're missing my point... I didn't say America either... I said that every society produces people like Navy... and people like you... and people like me... and GM and Coach and Jules and (well, except for Iran... ) ..... so if you want to be a part of ANY society, all of the elements are going to be represented. If you ever find a society, which is not hand-selected, which does not have all elements, please let me know.
I'm fully aware of that, no country is without hatred, bigotry, and ignorance.
I don't want to be a part of whatever world Navy comes from...that's my point. I can control that.
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Oh, and Navy. . . . to say that "if it weren't for slavery, you wouldn't be here" is a fallacy of presumption, non causa pro causa. You should try and eliminate that from your rhetoric.
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You're missing my point...I didn't say America...I said a society that produces someone like Navy...I don't want any part of that.
And you're missing my point... I didn't say America either... I said that every society produces people like Navy... and people like you... and people like me... and GM and Coach and Jules and (well, except for Iran... ) ..... so if you want to be a part of ANY society, all of the elements are going to be represented. If you ever find a society, which is not hand-selected, which does not have all elements, please let me know.
I'm fully aware of that, no country is without hatred, bigotry, and ignorance.
I don't want to be a part of whatever world Navy comes from...that's my point. I can control that.
Wow, slow...
The part of the world I come from is NE Ohio, like 90% of this Message Board. So you gonna move now?
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Actually, to carry on with my previous points, I am convinced that segregation is the solution to many of the problems.
I feel it would be a much more peaceful world if we had white land, black land, yellow land, brown land....Christian land, Islam land, Jewish land etc.
Have to disagree, Peen.
It's my opinion that at the root of all of these problems is class and power issues. I think every race and religious group would get along relatively fine if it's weren't for class issues. No one hated the Jews because they were Jews - they hated them because of what they percieved to be injustices...in fact, Hitler based his whole campaign on the fact that the Jews were taking your money and holding you down. Blacks wouldn't have had such a problem with whites if they weren't enslaved and treated inhumanly...Muslims wouldn't hate the Western world if we didn't bomb and oppress their people...
I don't think it's a hatred of that religion or race - I think it's a problem with class equality, and by virtue of that the eqaution gets boiled down to 'it's this(race/religion)'s fault'.
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