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And maybe YOU have a low self esteem problem, wishing you were an American, instead of a foreigner who feels the need to belong among the great citizens in the U.S.
No self-esteem problems here, navyboy. I don't feel any need to "belong" among Americans, either. I just love the Browns and if you don't like it, you know what you can do...
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Yeah, he might be black but at least he's American, eh navyboy? 
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This might be drastic...but let me give you an example
Do you like thoes anti war dumba$$es come to a soilders funeral and yell bad things?
Sure they have the RIGHT to say it...doesn't mean they should...that is exactly the kind of feeling one gets when ppl like you decide to "express your point of view" where it doesn't belong
Where it doesn't belong? 
Should I just have started another thread....
"For those that don't care if Carey is the 1st black ref of a SB?"
No?
Then I think my opinion fits perfectly right here.
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jc.....This thread is going down hill fast!
That started on page 4 lol...i'm just trying to get it to page 9 so it can be locked/deleted 
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So you are OKAY with thoes chruch ppl comming to the funerals? is that what you are saying? WHy are you twisting my words? LOL do you even kno what you were trying to get at in this thread? you sound like you are just attacking ppls posts left and right... Hey do yourself a favor and DON'T retire...you will drive yourself crazy doing nothing Goodluck to ya in retirement buddy..hope you have something to keep you busy
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That started on page 4 lol...i'm just trying to get it to page 9 so it can be locked/deleted
 
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you know what you can do...
no, I don't please tell me.
By the way, my name is US Navy Dawg, not navyboy. If you read the rules of this message board you will see that being childish and name calling isn't permitted.
Rules of the pound. 
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So you are OKAY with thoes chruch ppl comming to the funerals? is that what you are saying?
No, thats not what I am saying. What I am saying using your example, is that the "first black" crowd is the church protesters in your example.
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Goodluck to ya in retirement buddy..hope you have something to keep you busy
Thanks. Gonna spend my time here.
Now question.
Why are people bring in my career into this. I don't think it is relevant, just as I haven't got into any of your lives.
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I didn't call you a name, navyboy can be a term of endearment.
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I didn't call you a name, navyboy can be a term of endearment.
Maybe in Canada, Not here.
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Why are people bring in my career into this. I don't think it is relevant, just as I haven't got into any of your lives.
Didn't you call out ndutyme about his heritage and not knowing where his ancestors actually came from? 
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Why are people bring in my career into this. I don't think it is relevant, just as I haven't got into any of your lives.
Didn't you call out ndutyme about his heritage and not knowing where his ancestors actually came from?
Yes, as it pertains to the topic, my career isn't relevant to the topic.
Thanks for asking.
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When I said 'term of endearment', I was simply being sarcastic and condescending.
You brought up my being a Canadian for no good reason, now didn't ya? So be careful on that street, it's a two-way.
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We wouldn't even have racism if it weren't for those damn Canadians. It's all their fault.
This is the first mention of Canada that I can find... of course you were joking, but you brought Canada into this... 
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No, thats not what I am saying. What I am saying using your example, is that the "first black" crowd is the church protesters in your example.
WHAT? LOL now i know you are just killing time in this thread...
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You brought up my being a Canadian for no good reason, now didn't ya? So be careful on that street, it's a two-way.
Only after your USMC comments and Navyboy comments.
Difference being, you ARE a Canadian. I am NOT a "navyboy".
But I guess I do owe you an apology, calling you Canadian was far worse.
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We wouldn't even have racism if it weren't for those damn Canadians. It's all their fault.
This is the first mention of Canada that I can find... of course you were joking, but you brought Canada into this...
That's a reach. I was just trying to lighten the mood, it obviously didn't carry a vitriolic tone.
By the way, DC....something I've been meaning to tell you for awhile now... "ou" words such as 'favourite' didn't originate in France, a lot of them originated in England, so an English major told me.... 
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By the way, DC....something I've been meaning to tell you for awhile now... "ou" words such as 'favourite' didn't originate in France, a lot of them originated in England, so an English major told me....
So you're telling me it doesn't matter what colour the ref is?
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Don't make me find something on you too... I'm on a roll.
Go for it! You cant! I am the most sane and trusted person on this board!
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You brought up my being a Canadian for no good reason, now didn't ya? So be careful on that street, it's a two-way.
Only after your USMC comments and Navyboy comments.
Well I gotta admit, you're right. I started it.
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But I guess I do owe you an apology, calling you Canadian was far worse.
No need to apologize, it's not the first time you've said snide things about my country so an apology wouldn't be a very sincere one. I just consider the source... water off a duck's back.
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But I guess I do owe you an apology, calling you Canadian was far worse.
No need to apologize, it's not the first time you've said snide things about my country so an apology wouldn't be a very sincere one. I just consider the source... water off a duck's back.
Might want to read my apology again.
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Ah damn! I knew something was screwed up!
Thats why I like you, even though you are wrong IMO all the time, you're a good sport.
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A lot of people like me.
How 'bout you? I'm thinkin' not so many.
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I like you lampy....but I also like Navy. Hey, what am I doing in this thread? 
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A lot of people like me.
How 'bout you? I'm thinkin' not so many.
I cant stand you! I mean hell! you listen to Triumph!
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A lot of people like me.
How 'bout you? I'm thinkin' not so many.
I was being serious when I said that, maybe I was wrong about the good sport thing.
But to answer your question, don't know, never counted. I am sure there are many who HATE me, but only because I don't sugarcoat things and say whats on my mind.
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You are correct. However, as long as some things continue to exist, some white people are going to have a hard time accepting any kind of equivalency.. Whether it's right or wrong, don't you find it odd that there is a Miss Black America pagaent yet black women also sometimes win the Miss America Pagaent? And that there can be scholarship programs exclusively for black students? And that there can be social clubs exclusively for black people yet blacks also take exclusive white clubs to court to gain membership? and that black people with lower qualifications can get admitted to schools and get jobs over more qualified white people simply because they are black?... I could go on. As long as these kinds of perceived inconsistencies are not only occurring, but are being celebrated... some segments of the white population are going to have a hard time feeling a whole lot of empathy for the struggles of black people. Now we could go down the list and discuss the merits of each and every one of those inconsistencies, but it's really not necessary because I think you see what I'm getting at.
I couldn't have said it better myself DC. Great post
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Oh. I guess I over-reacted to being told I'm wrong all the time. I think "ALL" the time is a stretch. The trouble with "telling it like it is" and never "sugarcoating things" is this: People don't "tell it like it is", they "tell it like they see it" which isn't always the same thing. And while I'm not all PC-ish, people like that can be very offensive to some people at times. I know, I can be that way and used to be much worse. And shotty, you just nevermind I'm trying to fight the good fight here.
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Whites WOULDN'T hire blacks.
Gee I wonder how all my friends Dads had jobs when I was a kid.  You mean they lived just like we did, and their dads didn't even work 
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Oh.
I guess I over-reacted to being told I'm wrong all the time. I think "ALL" the time is a stretch.
I did say wrong all the time IMO.
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Gee I wonder how all my friends Dads had jobs when I was a kid. You mean they lived just like we did, and their dads didn't even work
So you are willing to bet that no white person in this day and age would have a second thought about hiring a black person? I'm not talking about the people you grew up with...i'm talking about EVERY white person in America that is in the position to hire someone
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Good thing for some they don't have rules on STUPIDITY or just being an ASS now isn't it my frined .. Call him SEMAN First Class ... thats a navy rank and very befitting for him ...
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Gee I wonder how all my friends Dads had jobs when I was a kid. You mean they lived just like we did, and their dads didn't even work
So you are willing to bet that no white person in this day and age would have a second thought about hiring a black person? I'm not talking about the people you grew up with...i'm talking about EVERY white person in America that is in the position to hire someone
I would hire whoever was going to make me the most money.
I don't care what color you are....show me the money
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THEY can do or not...if they want to be proud of a first black whatever who the hell are you to tell them they can't be? and they should be color blind?
They should be color blind. The sooner skin color is ignored the sooner racism about it ends.
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Good thing for some they don't have rules on STUPIDITY or just being an ASS now isn't it my frined ..
Call him SEMAN First Class ... thats a navy rank and very befitting for him ...
Speaking of being an ass and stupidity...
Seaman First Class is NOT a Navy Rank, but nice try.
Even if it was in some fantasy you have , it is not my rate or rank.
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So you are willing to bet that no white person in this day and age would have a second thought about hiring a black person? I'm not talking about the people you grew up with...i'm talking about EVERY white person in America that is in the position to hire someone
Nope because I know there are still some idiots out there. Just like I wouldn't bet that you can switch the skin colors in your question and the results would still be the same 
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Canadians suck. The only good thing to come out of Canada is the shows I watch religiously on the sci fi channel. Actually, I love Canada. My favorite place to visit is Toronto. I feel it is safe to go just about anywhere in the city with my family. I hope to take my wife to the eastern part of Canada in the near future. I really do hate the French, and don't care much fore most French Canadians I have run into but my wife loves the culture.
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