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.....Than my right to be free from your opinion.
My big mouth neighbor lady screams at the top of her lungs several times a day to retrieve her small children from the neighborhood. Her kids are always neat and clean and respectful especially since they are both under 6 years of age. They seem to prefer riding in the street to staying at home...wonder why?
Her right to fracture the calmness of our neighborhood by her screaming intermitently is acknowledged and understood, but her nasty tone and awful threats to these kids is embarrassing.
How do I exercise my right to freedom from her right to free speech?
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Call the police.
This was discussed in great depth some time ago on a Freedom of speech thread....or a freedom thread of some kind. Probably the smoking ban. *shrug*
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You could try to approach her and explain that the screaming makes her look and sound angry, and offer her a solution. One of my friend's parents growing up used a whistle, one of those long pipe whistles, makes less of a squeal, and more of a horn blowing sound. You could here it anywhere in the neighborhood, but even if you were right next door, it was low enough tone to not be annoying, They would blow it 2x for like 2 seconds each, and the kids had 5 minutes to get home. We all knew the whistle, and all would let them know if we heard it and they didn't, heck it was often a reminder for the rest of us it was dinner time. 
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Unless she is screaming in the middle of the night or screaming profanity, I don't believe there is a whole lot you can do other than try to reason with her. Quote:
Her right to fracture the calmness of our neighborhood by her screaming intermitently is acknowledged and understood, but her nasty tone and awful threats to these kids is embarrassing.
Embarrassing for whom?
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I doubt the police would do anything about it. I don't think there is anything you can do, Ralphie, unless you are willing to risk making things worse by talking to her. No matter how reasonable you are, if she is a real bitch, she will not get the message.
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You could try to approach her and explain that the screaming makes her look and sound angry, and offer her a solution. One of my friend's parents growing up used a whistle, one of those long pipe whistles, makes less of a squeal, and more of a horn blowing sound.
You could here it anywhere in the neighborhood, but even if you were right next door, it was low enough tone to not be annoying, They would blow it 2x for like 2 seconds each, and the kids had 5 minutes to get home.
We all knew the whistle, and all would let them know if we heard it and they didn't, heck it was often a reminder for the rest of us it was dinner time.
lol, We had the same thing growing up. Mom would blow the horn and you'd see all the kids scramble for the dinner tables. And most of the parents in the neighborhood knew what it meant so they would tell us how long ago it blew if we weren't on our way home so we'd stay out of trouble. I didn't think anyone else had that.
In response to the OP, like most said, you could try talking to her. That's about all that you can do. The police likely won't do anything.
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It is a violation (in Ohio) of ORC 2917.11
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How do I exercise my right to freedom from her right to free speech?
You don't......the rights of mothers to call for their children to gather them up is well established, for thousands of years.
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You are correct Shep. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2917.11 In that case, I would still recommend trying to talk to her first. Be reasonable and maybe she will be too. If she's a wench about it, then give the cops a call.
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which part of that is she violating?
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which part of that is she violating?
I'm not sure what part she is violating...but I might be in trouble on two of those!!  
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Depending on how she does it, #2 or 3. If she's just hollering for her kids, then probably not. Could make a case either way. But like I said, I would try to talk to her and reason with her first. I always try to do that before involving any law enforcement.
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I don't think you would find many DA'a willing to press a disorderly charge on a woman calling her children home unless it was some unusual time of the evening or morning.....even then, it would be more a neglect charge.
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A bit off topic, but who sends off 2 children under the age of 6 out far enough to not be able to see them?  Call me an overprotective mom, but that just seems like a bad choice to begin with.
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Just tell her to get off of her lazy butt and find them without screaming if she can't give them a time to be home before they go out.
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A bit off topic, but who sends off 2 children under the age of 6 out far enough to not be able to see them? Call me an overprotective mom, but that just seems like a bad choice to begin with.
I would say it is a terrible choice.
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Let it go dude
There are worse things she could be doing, then collecting her children.
I'm glad her kids are out playing and not stuck in front the tv
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I don't think you would find many DA'a willing to press a disorderly charge on a woman calling her children home unless it was some unusual time of the evening or morning.....even then, it would be more a neglect charge.
I agree with you. But I've also seen cops who will make the case (specifically in the 2nd district of the CPD where I grew up). I could even name a few of the cops that would have done so. hehe as I had one or two run ins with them as a youth.
Personally, I would rather the neighbors try to talk about the problem first and foremost. I hate it when neighbors don't talk about something and it escalates much further than it should have and ends up being a mountain instead of the molehill it truely was.
At the very least, the police presence would lend some authority to the situation should it turn bad after trying to talk it over with them. Although they may or may not do anything.
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Let it go dude
There are worse things she could be doing, then collecting her children.
I'm glad her kids are out playing and not stuck in front the tv
Don't think collecting her children is the issue, but how she is collecting her children.
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emarrasing to her kids...even at their young age.
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That's fine, but you can't feel embarrased on somebody elses behalf.
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"Let it go dude
There are worse things she could be doing, then collecting her children.
I'm glad her kids are out playing and not stuck in front the tv "
I'm willing to let it go,DUDE, but I worry about the kids safety from her rants and threats to the kids.
The kids spend all their time outside and as far away from Mom as they can get...this tells me that something more than wanting to play is involved here.
I've caught the 2 little ones crouched behind my palm trees out front hiding from the Mama Monster many times.
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If you genuinely feel the children are in a dangerous situation, then you have to act on that.. think real hard, then act...
If however this is just about her annoying sceechy voice, then I stand by my original opinion that unless it's the middle of the night or profanity laced, then there is little you are going to be able to do about it.
And if you do decide to go after her for how she is raising her children or some perceived danger, then you better have all of your ducks in a row and expect it to be a while before that calmness returns to your neighborhood.. because if you think her voice fractures it, try to come between her and her kids and see what happens.
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Then call the children's services department.
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Children's services are overwhelmed. They have more calls than they can handle. They shouldn't be bothered in this matter. Methinks Ralphie is making this a bigger deal than it is.
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A bit off topic, but who sends off 2 children under the age of 6 out far enough to not be able to see them? Call me an overprotective mom, but that just seems like a bad choice to begin with.
I would say it is a terrible choice.
I don't think it is a terrible choice. The neighborhood may dictate, but we are raising a generation of fat Pugsley"s who sit around the house playing video games.
Go outside and play like kids are supposed to.
You give them boundaries. If they can stick to those, I don't see a problem at all. The problem is over protective parents who insist kids stay with-in eyeshot.
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Children's services are overwhelmed. They have more calls than they can handle. They shouldn't be bothered in this matter. Methinks Ralphie is making this a bigger deal than it is.
I agree.
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I don't think it is a terrible choice. The neighborhood may dictate, but we are raising a generation of fat Pugsley"s who sit around the house playing video games.
Go outside and play like kids are supposed to.
You give them boundaries. If they can stick to those, I don't see a problem at all. The problem is over protective parents who insist kids stay with-in eyeshot.
To send children who are under the age of six out by themselves just seems risky. My children can play out in my backyard, but they are not free to roam the neighborhood at that age. Asking nicely, why do you have a problem with that?
As my children grow up, yes, they are allowed a little more freedom each year. Being 4 or 5 though, no way. I accompanied my little ones out at that age. As they grew, I'd send them out, but made them promise to check on me. (Worked well, they thought I needed them to make sure I was alright.  )
BTW, my children are not "pugsley" by any means. They play sports and eat pretty healthy. That's another area I make sure they are "protected".
Like I said, maybe I am overprotective, but my kids seem to be happy, and I don't have to disturb the 'hood screeching like a banshee for them to come home.
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Talk to your neighbors. When this lady screams out of her door, you and your neighbors do your best to imitate her....yelling just as loud as she does. Soon, all the kids in the neighborhood will be doing it. Hopefully she'll get the message. If not, it's still worth it for a few laughs.
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"...Children's services are overwhelmed. They have more calls than they can handle. They shouldn't be bothered in this matter. Methinks Ralphie is making this a bigger deal than it is"
VersDawg- Maybe I am overreacting. Maybe the woman is actually nearly deaf so she compensates by yelling rather than talking. Maybe my concern for the kids is silly...who knows. Perhaps I should ignore the problem and hope some day the kids will get over their fear of going back to Mom's house.
Nah, we'll watch to see if the behavior continues or progresses. I just don't like acting like most neighbors and mind only my personal business
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For fear of taking this conversation where it does not need to go... is there a "dad" in the picture who may be a little more rational that you could talk to?
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I've met him briefly before the most recent demonstrations of looniness began. He seems to be a regular guy, hard working but overmatched by the wifey at home.
I've seen several instances of him exiting the home and slamming car doors as he enters them. I've also observed his eyerolls when he hears the scream of the bansheeeeee!
Gonna have to share the secret knock signal to enter my house when she gets on a roll.
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