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First of all..........this thread is another good example of a person w/an agenda. Why would Corpus only post the Dump DA article rather than both? Dude, you are pathetic.
Secondly..........I am so sick of reading from Finn that Arizona was the second biggest game of the year. And no one corrects him. It wasn't even close. Buffalo was WAY bigger. So was the Seattle win. The second Baltimore win. The Houston win. Arizona.....pfftttt.
I just wish Savage didn't make the stupid trade for BQ last year. And he probably wouldn't have if it wouldn't have been for Junior. We would have had the 36th pick in last year's draft, the number 23 this year, and a good QB. Now, we have a stupid controversy.......... all because BQ's fan crew can't wait until he gets in there. 
This is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. Like you don't have an agenda too?
I've called out Finn on his comments only to get lambasted by Jules for it, for the record.
So, you claim the trade was because of Randy Lerner even when Savage stated even if he knew Anderson would have the year he had, he STILL would have made the trade?
And for the love of God please quit with the Brady's Brats garbage. I know you claim to say you're not overly in love with DA but this blind hatred for Quinn is unbelievable, especially when everything we've seen from BQ has been positive. Criticizing him for doing magazine shoots? Come on man...I'm trying to level with you here but some of it is unreal.
(and before anyone says I had blind hate for Frye you're way WAY off base)
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especially when everything we've seen from BQ has been positive.
I think BQ is our longterm answer as well, but what exactly have you seen from BQ? He's thrown 8 passes. Do you have passes to practices? If so, keep me in mind when you have an extra one 
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And Edwards is not a good receiver....
Winslow is not a good tight end....
Lewis is not a good RB....ect..ect..........because every thing was perfect for them...thats why they had the success they did......
Oh I never looked at it that way ... your absolutely right ... what was I thinking ... your so smart and intelligent and know so much about football ...
thanks for straightening me out ... I thank my lucky stars for U and that awesome insight ... please ... tell me more .. I can't wait ..
your almost as intelligent and know almost as much about football as Daman .. without U two I have no clue where I'd be ...
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LOL............I would never have posted the Pro DA article just to fuel my agenda. So stick your pot calling the kettle crap. And I don't have a blind hatred for BQ..........only for his Brats.
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especially when everything we've seen from BQ has been positive.
I think BQ is our longterm answer as well, but what exactly have you seen from BQ? He's thrown 8 passes. Do you have passes to practices? If so, keep me in mind when you have an extra one
I'll admit I was counting preseason...I know preseason isn't the regular season and preseason defenses aren't as fast. Believe me, I know.
But I loved just about everything I saw from the kid. Quick decisions, right decisions, excellent footwork, composure, accuracy. And there was something intangible that I could feel in the stadium when I was at the game...I figured maybe it was the atmosphere of the game itself. But I felt it over the TV in the following preseason games and again during the SF game. There's something about this guy.
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First of all..........this thread is another good example of a person w/an agenda. Why would Corpus only post the Dump DA article rather than both? Dude, you are pathetic.
Dude ... calling Corpus pathetic is an insult to pathetic people all across this great land of ours ..
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Secondly..........I am so sick of reading from Finn that Arizona was the second biggest game of the year. And no one corrects him. It wasn't even close. Buffalo was WAY bigger. So was the Seattle win. The second Baltimore win. The Houston win. Arizona.....pfftttt.
Finn ... again .. why u waste your time is beyond me ... I think he lost some serious cash on those two games or he's ten years old .. cause he is acting just like my nephews do when they have a tantrum over this ..
but to say that Seattle, Baltimore and Houston were bigger than the Zona game makes me shake my head ..
Buffalo .. no doubt .. HUGE .. they were still in the race .... but the Zona game was in the same bag as the Jets and the Texans games .. the Seahags and Rats games were to early and wasn't as important as the Cards game ... NO WAY ...
but its OK ... I forgive U .. 
and there will be no controversy .. BQ will kick his ass at every stage starting now .. and U will be happy in the end .... you'll just have to trust me on this one .. even though Diesel and Daman my not agree with me .. 
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Alright bro.........I placed more importance on the Texans, Rats, and Jet games than Zona because they were conference games and that is where the tie breakers lie. The Seattle game might be a stretch, but I chose them because they were a playoff team and it was important to be a legit contender. Plus, you gotta win the home games.
Oh yeah.............what was our home record again? *L*
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7 - 1 ...
but we would have been 6 - 2 if we played Cinci on the road the 1st time and at home the 2nd time ... *LOL* ... so there ...
well if u wanna go there then the Stiler game has to fall into the same importance .... no???
and I placed the importance on the road games .. to be a good team u need to win on the road ......
for me .. each week became more important than the previous one for a few reasons ...
1. we had fewer games left so their importance "increases" ... theres more pressure ... when we imploded against the stilers in week 1 or against the Faiders there was still plenty of time left ...
2. games become must wins as the season goes on ...
to me the games ranked in order of PERCIEVED importance would be ..
1. Bungles .. we win were in .. simple .. HUGE PRESSURE GAME ..
2. Jills ... 3 weeks left and a team right on our heels .. HUGE game .. this game helped set the table to get us to the Bungle game .. and at this point it was the MOST IMPORTANT game of the year ... PRESSURE GAME ..
3. Jets game ... simply because it was later than the other games ... Pressure starting to mount ...
then the Cards, Houston, Rats and Stiler games all fell in about the same place .. there was no " added pressure" in those games ..
and i dont agree with Finn .... I just hold u to a higher standard than I do him .... and I hope U know why ,... *L* ..
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I'm glad I'm higher on the pecking order than Finn. *L* Look dude..........all games are big, but there were truly two BIG games this year. 1. 2nd Bengal game. 2. Bills game. We won one.........lost one. And truth be told............not many of us predicted there would even be any big games this year. People are reaching. We had a good freaking year. DA did too. I know you are Prez of the Brat Pack, but even you have to admit that he was a big part of the reason we won 10 games.
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Look dude..........all games are big, but there were truly two BIG games this year.
1. 2nd Bengal game.
2. Bills game.
I would agree with that ... your the one that stretched it to prove a point to Finn ... just another reason U shouldnt bother with him .. *L* ..
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he had an OK year .. he played WAY BETTER THAN I EVER DREAMPT HE COULD ... i will admit to that ..*L* ..
I don't believe he did anythiing all that special ... GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES surronding him .... I thought he did OK ... that will have to do for U cause thats how I feel so its all your getting from me ... *L* ...
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I know you are Prez of the Brat Pack, but even you have to admit that he was a big part of the reason we won 10 games.
I don't HAVE to admit crap... I will gladly ADMIT he played better than i ever thought he could .. and i will GLADLY ADMIT and THANK HIM for being a PART in the 10 win season .. but IMO he was not a big part in it ....
THANKS DA .... appreciatte what u did for us this year ... GOOD JOB ...
hope that does bro .. cause its about all your gonna get from me ..
with that said ....
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BRADY BRADY BRADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL Prez. 
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I don't HAVE to admit crap... I will gladly ADMIT he played better than i ever thought he could .. and i will GLADLY ADMIT and THANK HIM for being a PART in the 10 win season .. but IMO he was not a big part in it ....
66% of all offensive yards came by pass and 63% of all the TD's scored came by pass....if DA wasn't a HUGE part of that,..who is?
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If u don't know the answer to that its a waste of my time to try and explain it .. especially since U aren't really looking for an answer .. lets just say its another example of why STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!! now I gotta run to the italian deli and get me a sausage and pepporini U ...
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without U two I have no clue where I'd be ...
Thanks again ... u DaMan ....
No problem...glad I could help....
Your statement......DA is not a good Qb...but played ok........To me...that would at least be good......I agree he`s not great...But to say he isn`t good...but okay...That sounds like your not sure yourself...
If you could read into my statement ...You may see the point I was making.....This not good QB did accomplish one thing...He helped others get to a point of playing good ball......Maybe BQ...could have done a better job...But that will have to be seen...
Or maybe these other guys abilities made DA look...good (or not good)....
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Like you said...everything was perfect for him...But it was also perfect for others on the team....
thats where your wrong ...
Brey is a much much better reciever than DA is QB ...
KW is a mcu much better TE than DA is a QB ..
the OL played MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN DA DID ...
Jamal was a better RB than DA was QB ..
get my drift my man?????
and damm U ... U made me talk serious cause I couldn't figure out how to ridicule U after that response ... *LOL* ..
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None of us have the inside scoop on how Quinn progressed during the season or will develop in the off season. All we heard was a comment by Savage that at the end of the year, he felt that Quinn could play if needed. Me, I predict that Quinn will eventually make all of this discussion mute with his play.
Well, I still think that Savage will not offer him a long term deal and smile nicely if and when someone antes their first and thrid round draft choices for Anderson.
That is my hunch, and how I would play it.
All we have to do is wait for FA.
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Do U come in crow ... I will look on the menu next time or see if I need to special order it ..... whats your addy so i can mail it to U??? oh wait ... that may be like a pig eating bacon or a cow eating steak ... is U eating U different???? 
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DA is not a good QB ... he is a QB that played OK one year when everything was PERFECT and i mean PERFECT for him ...
diam...spoken like a true Brady Quinn pimp who is still smarting from a season where his guy sat the bench while Anderson led the Browns to a 10-6, just missing the playoffs.
Diam, how bad do you have BQ disease?
To say Anderson "is not a good QB"...leaves you with zero creditability concerning the subject.
I'm not saying Quinn is not a good QB prospect or will not be great some day...I'm not standing up for Anderson because I'm a DA pimp...I'm not...
I'm a Cleveland Browns pimp and I'm not about to discredit one of our players or stand by when someone with a clear "agenda" lies about that players performance.
I'm not about to make sheeets up or make ridiculous comments such as Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson are not "good QBs".
I believe both are good QBs and Anderson got the opportunity to "prove it" this season and put up some very good numbers ""in his first year as a starter"".
AGAIN...IN HIS FIRST YEAR AS A STARTER...
diam, you can't take away what the man accomplished. You can cry and pout, but what Anderson did achieve is there for all to see and he did it in his "first year" as a starter.
You can attempt to highlight Anderson's negatives to drive his favorables down but all you need to do is look at the QB in the Super Bowl who did not put up numbers as good as Anderson's, across the board... completions, completion %, yds, ypa, long, tds, td%, ints<, int%, sks<, skyds, QB rating..The only catagory Anderson lost to this Super Bowl QB was the number of attempts.
And you say "DA is not a good QB"...and you talk about "drivel"?
I hope the Browns deal Anderson or Quinn so we don't have to hear you cry any longer about Quinn setting on the bench.
I'm sure if Quinn gets traded to say the Miami Dolphins, your a fish fan that quick and this board will not have to listen to your stuff any longer.
BTW, the Browns won 10 games with Anderson starting each of those wins...I think that is damned good for all "Browns fans", but not so good if your just a "Brady Quinn fan"...all my humble opinion.
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So, you claim the trade was because of Randy Lerner even when Savage stated even if he knew Anderson would have the year he had, he STILL would have made the trade?
I know Savage said that, but I have a hard time believing it. If he knows a QB was going to have that kind of year (10-5, 29 TDs, 3700 yards) then I don't see him trading for a unproven QB that's what, 6 months younger?
I think Phil is saying that because he doesn't want to come out and say, "Geez, now I wish I didn't make the move to get that guy." And I can respect him for that. I think there will be a day that Quinn is the man here, and you can't the legs out from under him like that.
Without that trade we'd have a first this year, and a 3rd last year (IMHO we would have still taken Wright in the 2nd and not have had to trade up to get him).
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Good Problem?..hell yes. Would it be better if he just sucked,..I mean,..was not good? At least we have a chance to get something good for him.You say he has a shot at big money but whoever pays it must be a fool.
I think our problem is a simple case of miscommunications.
I feel what "you are saying" is that we have the best possible scenario as it stands today, as we could have possibly have pictured at the beginning of this season. Our starting QB was benched durinhg game one, DA came on as the back up. Frye was sent packing and everybody was like...................... 
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If someone wanted him and was willing to pay big money,why wouldn't they give up a first and third to us now and the resign him next year(if that's how it would actually work)? The only way I see that scenario not playing out is if other interested teams are trying to call our bluff and chance it that we'll just him walk.I can't see PS allowing that to happen.
It's not "that simple". No matter which path we take, we could come out the big winners or the big loser}. See, we agree that getting to where we are now is a good thing for us and there is no doubt about that. However, my comments were on "how to move forward". I don't have the answer to the path Phil plans to take in order to do that, but I'm pretty sure he has a good idea on that.
RAC and Phil have watched Quinn every day. They have the information to evaluate the QB position. Now since Quinn was a first round pick, and Phil was "burning up the phone after Miami passed on Quinn, It is my considered opinion that Phil is VERY HIGH on Quinn!
So they have had a year to watch him, evaluate his maturation process. And I believe that Phil looks at "the long haul". So I do believe that the QB issue will rest solely upon the path that Phil plans to follow over the long term, not based necassarily upon an "insurance policy".
I believe they know the path they intend to follow for the long term. What is that? I don't know. But how the "DA deal" goes down, will give you a strong indication.
If they see DA as our "future starter long term", then I believe you'll see them pony up some good money and get him signed. If they can't sign him, they'll tag him and "take nothing less" than a first and third.
However, if they see Quinn as the long term future, I believe that Phil's "actual value" for DA, is what will it take to give up your back up QB? At that juncture, I could see Phil settling for less than a first and third.
But keeping DA for one year and "trying to work out a deal as a long term back up" ( under the scenario the FO sees Quinn as the long term answer ) doesn't seem plausible and is as every much of a gamble as any other choice we can make here.
Then we end up with no DA, and no draft picks/players in return. Empty handed. If we trade him and Quinn flops, we're hit! On the other hand, we get a top 15 pick and a D stud, Quinn looks great, suddenly Phil's a genius!
See, no matter what choice Savage makes, it's a gamble. It's not like there's an "obvious choice" to make here. The only "obvious choice" is the one Phil makes. Because I'm pretty sure he knows how he sees the "future" of the QB position here. And just how much he feels DA is worth to this FO and how much it would take to get him.
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LOL its funny that few people here can handle the truth or accept another viewpoint.and as for AMMO how can anyone read his useless dribble.Heres a person that spends 24/7 on this board on obviously has no life of his own other than this.
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You and me too lamp,, it's just getting stupid... Totally idiotic,, You want to talk about masked name calling,, that's all this has turned into.. Wanna hear the funniest thing... we won 10 games last season,,, we appear to have turned the corner and are on the upswing..... and yet, another Deadbate is before us... 
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LOL its funny that few people here can handle the truth or accept another viewpoint.and as for AMMO how can anyone read his useless dribble.Heres a person that spends 24/7 on this board on obviously has no life of his own other than this.
This coming from someone whose opinions resemble that of a middle schooler's? (No offense BrowniePoints!) and in fact looks worse than middle schoolers because there's a middle schooler already with better opinions than him?
You know nothing about my life, and it's surely more exciting than yours.
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LOL its funny that few people here can handle the truth or accept another viewpoint.and as for AMMO how can anyone read his useless dribble.Heres a person that spends 24/7 on this board on obviously has no life of his own other than this.
This coming from someone whose opinions resemble that of a middle schooler's? (No offense BrowniePoints!) and in fact looks worse than middle schoolers because there's a middle schooler already with better opinions than him?
You know nothing about my life, and it's surely more exciting than yours.
Your absolutely hilarious your life is here,and if anyone knows about middle schooling dribble it is certainly YOU !!!!
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LOL its funny that few people here can handle the truth or accept another viewpoint.and as for AMMO how can anyone read his useless dribble.Heres a person that spends 24/7 on this board on obviously has no life of his own other than this.
This coming from someone whose opinions resemble that of a middle schooler's? (No offense BrowniePoints!) and in fact looks worse than middle schoolers because there's a middle schooler already with better opinions than him?
You know nothing about my life, and it's surely more exciting than yours.
Your absolutely hilarious your life is here,and if anyone knows about middle schooling dribble it is certainly YOU !!!!
Yes, Finn, my life is on the internet.  I sit in my apartment on weekends on DT and don't go out with my friends, LOL what a joke.
I should be like Vers and Diam and not even waste my time with you.
When your main point is DA sucks because he choked in 2 big games, it's not much of a point. Call me back when you talk about accuracy, footwork and decision-making please, then I just might be able to take you seriously.
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"I just wish Savage didn't make the stupid trade for BQ last year. And he probably wouldn't have if it wouldn't have been for Junior. We would have had the 36th pick in last year's draft, the number 23 this year, and a good QB. Now, we have a stupid controversy.......... all because BQ's fan crew can't wait until he gets in there."
Yep, Randy is in the war room pulling those triggers...
Controversy? BQ's fan club? Controversy is all on DA - Cleveland (the Fans) were ready to annoint him.
Then he goes and digresses to playing to a 73 QB rating for the entire 2nd half of the season.
Then in December with a Pat-a-cake schedule...Zona, Jets, Buffalo, Bengals and 49ers...He throws more INTs than TDs and has a 66 QB rating....and no the Buffalo snow game didn't drag him down. This against nobody teams, with an excellent running game, Improved Defense, Terrific OL and Weapons galore...66 QB rating.
He didn't get better...he got worse. Schedule was easy, Defenses were easy. 66 QB rating in our last 5 games!
Controversy all on BQ agenda know nothing fans? Sorry - I'm a simple Browns fan who thinks DA is over hyped, over estimated and is not the guy to lead us into the promised land...not on ignorance...but on the simple fact of what I saw from DA.
How you could stand there with a straight face and say - he's the guy we made a big mistake drafting BQ and Savage is a dolt who caves into Randy wims and points the finger to others and site...AGENDA! amazing 
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LOL its funny that few people here can handle the truth or accept another viewpoint.and as for AMMO how can anyone read his useless dribble.Heres a person that spends 24/7 on this board on obviously has no life of his own other than this.
This coming from someone whose opinions resemble that of a middle schooler's? (No offense BrowniePoints!) and in fact looks worse than middle schoolers because there's a middle schooler already with better opinions than him?
You know nothing about my life, and it's surely more exciting than yours.
Your absolutely hilarious your life is here,and if anyone knows about middle schooling dribble it is certainly YOU !!!!
Yes, Finn, my life is on the internet. I sit in my apartment on weekends on DT and don't go out with my friends, LOL what a joke.
I should be like Vers and Diam and not even waste my time with you.
When your main point is DA sucks because he choked in 2 big games, it's not much of a point. Call me back when you talk about accuracy, footwork and decision-making please, then I just might be able to take you seriously.
You are making no sense what so ever its your OPINION that you would rather talk about footwork etc.,I would rather talk about performance in big games.Just a difference in what a person would rather talk about.And show me just one post where I said DA sucks and I will stay off the board.
I allways said I appreciate what DA did during the season but i didnt think he was a big game player,at least he hasnt shown that so far.
SEE just an opinion if you cant accept how other people arrive at their own conclusions then I dont know what else to say.I thought that is why we have FORUMS.If I offended anyone here I am truly sorry.
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RAC and Phil have watched Quinn every day. They have the information to evaluate the QB position. Now since Quinn was a first round pick, and Phil was "burning up the phone after Miami passed on Quinn, It is my considered opinion that Phil is VERY HIGH on Quinn!
Had DA SHOWN what he did during the OTA's and preseason that trade may not have happened..
Fact is Phil was not confident DA had anything because he never showed anything consistantly before.
I don't blame him for doing the deal..but now I think it's safe to say they know what DA is...and what Quinn can be..
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You and me too lamp,, it's just getting stupid... Totally idiotic,,
You want to talk about masked name calling,, that's all this has turned into..
Wanna hear the funniest thing... we won 10 games last season,,, we appear to have turned the corner and are on the upswing..... and yet, another Deadbate is before us...
I think we were happier after we went 4-12 last year. I think the problem is that we Browns fans like closure. We were all stoked headed into the 1st game of the season this year. We just need things to fall in place.
When there are questions left open, we have the patience of a rabid squirrel on speed and steroids. We need closure, whatever it may be.
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All that I can say is that IF we want to trade Anderson....Do it ASAP !....Greetham is correct in that in any trade you want to maximize your return value....However , we did go 10-6 and given Quinn's limited playing time , I find it difficult to call him a Blue Chip # 1 QB....Mr. Savage understands that we can Not afford to take a step backward in 2008....Which ever QB he feels will allow us to maintain or improve in 2008 will be our Starter....Beyond that I just can't see us keeping both QBs on the roster....Depending on how we do in 2008 1 or both QBs will see their trade value drop  ....
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Whatever the reason,, doesn't matter, it's still idiotic.....
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“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
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"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
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You and me too lamp,, it's just getting stupid... Totally idiotic,,
You want to talk about masked name calling,, that's all this has turned into..
Wanna hear the funniest thing... we won 10 games last season,,, we appear to have turned the corner and are on the upswing..... and yet, another Deadbate is before us...
That's why I don't spend a lot of time taking part in this debate.
I've made my point probably 20 times about DA and Quinn, and I'll wait until the decision is made (whenever that is but the sooner the better) and we'll on move forward from there.
OK, once more and then I'm done...
If we can get a team to drop a 1st-rounder for DA, do it and don't look back. If we find ourselves getting low-balled, let the two QBs fight it out in camp, but for Christ sake don't dilly-dally. Get a decision done by the second pre-season game.
If BQ wins the job in camp (odds are he will IMO but who knows for sure?), then we have a very capable backup in Anderson.
I like some of what DA does, but some of what he does is dreadful. But he's still done more than BQ at the NFL level so far and won some games for us, which is the bottom line.
We'll see what happens...
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First of all..........this thread is another good example of a person w/an agenda. Why would Corpus only post the Dump DA article rather than both? Dude, you are pathetic.
Gees wizz Virz, I'ba haba agender? ______(deleted)________
Can the racial comments. I know you were only kidding but it's not funny
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Dude ... calling Corpus pathetic is an insult to pathetic people all across this great land of ours ..
why u even bother with him is beyond me ...
Dude I could'nt agree more, that guy is a real pain in my back side. I guess I will put him on ignor! 
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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BTW, the Browns won 10 games with Anderson starting each of those wins...
Well accidents will happen. How many of those wins came against teams with winning records?
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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66% of all offensive yards came by pass and 63% of all the TD's scored came by pass....if DA wasn't a HUGE part of that,..who is?
CHUD!
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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