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Put the gloves down....
It better stop now or this thread will be locked and suspensions handed out.
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I can't see Tressel being played for too long here.
He can start at MI but he aint gonna win for a few years...or he
goes to OSU, redshirt, win and be the hero most think he'll be. Or, go to PSU
and fall somewhere in between. (PSU seems to be pops favorite)
Again, Tressel does not strike me as a guy who'd appreciate these media plays much.
Sign and begin your journey kid. C. Wells came in early and excelled. Your a high school star bess start working to impress the next level of fans/media.
At this point I'd question if he's a team guy or all about himself. Tressel may be too strict for the kid.
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But I've never met someone toying with these schools like this, and I can't understand why it's taking so long to make a decision.
Is he toying with the schools, or is this getting blown out of proportion because the media wants to declare a winner already? I don't remember Pryor coming out any saying that he was going to any school. He's gone on visits and answered questions posed to him, but I think this is much more the media trying to be the first one to get the school that he is going to correct and jumping all over it (He's already been a "lock" at Michigan and Ohio State and "likely looking at" Oregon according to ESPN, just from memory) than him trying to pull anybody along, IMO.
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ND is more than likely done for the day .... we got the 22 that had verballed ... and one "surprise" ... a DE/LBer tweener out of Texas .... 4 star on one site and a 3 on the other ...
Nice pick up for us as he fills a definite need as we need depth at DL and LBer ...
were still waiting for one more possibility ... a 4 star RB out of Cali ... he's announcing at 7 Eastern tonight ... I could really care less ... we have 3 really good RB's in what will be next years Soph/Jr. class and a real good one on board that will be a freshman ... if he picks ND it will make this class look sexier but won't really make it any better to me ....
Mich and OSU are having good days also ... U guys crack me up ... having a pissin match over what boils down to nuttin ... its a good day for all 3 schools ...
ND has a GREAT CLASS ....
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I can't see Tressel being played for too long here.
He can start at MI but he aint gonna win for a few years...or he
goes to OSU, redshirt, win and be the hero most think he'll be. Or, go to PSU
and fall somewhere in between. (PSU seems to be pops favorite)
Again, Tressel does not strike me as a guy who'd appreciate these media plays much.
Sign and begin your journey kid. C. Wells came in early and excelled. Your a high school star bess start working to impress the next level of fans/media.
At this point I'd question if he's a team guy or all about himself. Tressel may be too strict for the kid.
I love how almost every OSU fan is completely writing Michigan off for at least 2 or 3 years. It will take a little while to adjust, but if Pryor commits, we have the personnel to run the system, they will just be inexperienced. I think they may struggle at the beginning of this year, but by years end will be in pretty good shape, with the offense being ready to go in 2009.
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But I've never met someone toying with these schools like this, and I can't understand why it's taking so long to make a decision.
Is he toying with the schools, or is this getting blown out of proportion because the media wants to declare a winner already? I don't remember Pryor coming out any saying that he was going to any school. He's gone on visits and answered questions posed to him, but I think this is much more the media trying to be the first one to get the school that he is going to correct and jumping all over it (He's already been a "lock" at Michigan and Ohio State and "likely looking at" Oregon according to ESPN, just from memory) than him trying to pull anybody along, IMO.
I think it's important to not keep the competing schools waiting so they can move on and get their plans ready.
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This is a rebuilding year for the scUM they will be competitive. 2 years is a bit crazy.
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I think it's important to not keep the competing schools waiting so they can move on and get their plans ready.
He owes the competing schools nothing. They are vying for his services, not the other way around. He is taking the time to figure out what school is right for him. If you are offered jobs from numerous companies and the offers are pretty similar, you will take the time to look further into each and decide which one best fits you.
As much as I hope he commits to Michigan, he owes nothing to any school. He doesn't need to care if they can move on or not. The schools need to plan to not have him, and then those plans can change if he does sign. It's not like the season starts in a few weeks, he still has time. If he wasn't the #1 prospect in the country, this wouldn't even be an issue.
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I think it's important to not keep the competing schools waiting so they can move on and get their plans ready.
I can see that point as a fan, but this is the kid's biggest decision. Honestly, if I were him, I wouldn't give a tiny rat's backside when the fans felt I should make a decision. I'm going to be alienating 2/3 of them anyway when I make my choice and the other 1/3 will be very forgiving, considering they just got the #1 prospect on the board.
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Ok but ppl can call us the suckeyes? You are the only ref who has a problem with me saying that. 
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I just warned everyone in this thread, and YOU continued the smack, and you were the one doing the name calling. I suggest you take a break from this thread now.
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One last thing and Im done.
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I love how almost every OSU fan is completely writing Michigan off for at least 2 or 3 years.
I'm a OSU fan and have a hard time understanding this also, it's not like Michigan dosent have talent already not everybody has transfered, Heck some of thier back-up could have started at others schools, ( Not at Ohio State of course)... , but I really don't see any rebuilding having to do, RR will have some normal struggles putting in his type of system, but it's not like the talent wont be their because it is and he's bringing more, I dont like Michigan but do respect them....wait cross out that last line
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I love how almost every OSU fan is completely writing Michigan off for at least 2 or 3 years.
I'm a OSU fan and have a hard time understanding this also, it's not like Michigan dosent have talent already not everybody has transfered, Heck some of thier back-up could have started at others schools, ( Not at Ohio State of course)... , but I really do see any rebuilding having to do, RR will have some normal struggles putting in his type of system, but it's not like the talent wont be their because it is and he's bringing more, I dont like Michigan but do respect them....wait cross out that last line
Haha, I know what you mean. I hate OSU with a passion, but I respect the program. Obviously the system won't be at full power right away, but the talent is there. Plus, if they get Pryor, and thats a big IF, he knows the sytem to an extent. He ran the spread option in high school. Obviously RR's system will be a bit different, but it won't be a huge change up.
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j/c...
For some reason, I still think Pryor will sign today.
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For some reason, I still think Pryor will sign today.
Already had his presser, not signing. Said he's taking more time to give all four schools (PSU, OSU, UM and Oregon) an equal opportunity/look.
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Just saw that like 5 min after I posted that lol. I can't say I blame him.
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Home Town (Wauseon) Boy Elliott Mealer said long ago he was heading for Michigan,
Even though it's nice to see a good kids like Elliott get a chance to play college ball, we kid him about his choice. Good luck Elliot, except VS OSU.
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They are saying now that McGuffie is looking at Cal, but Michael Shaw made it official that he is coming to Michigan.
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Home Town (Wauseon) Boy Elliott Mealer said long ago he was heading for Michigan,
Even though it's nice to see a good kids like Elliott get a chance to play college ball, we kid him about his choice. Good luck Elliot, except VS OSU.
Elliot Mealer's story is a pretty heartbreaking one. I'm just really rooting for him. Seems to be a great kid and a heck of a football player.
Clay, what are your thoughts on UM making such a splash in Ohio (6 top 20 commits) in a shortened recruiting season for this new staff? Pretty shocking for me.....Here's who they landed:
Rivals.com Ohio recruit rankings:
#7 RB Michael Shaw
#10 TE/WR Kevin Kroger
#13 TE/WR Brandon Moore
#14 OT Elliot Mealer
#16 OLB Taylor Hill
#17 WR Roy Roundtree
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1875
As for McGuffie, he may be getting cold feet with Shaw on board. Shaw is a big-time player (#7 overall RB in the class of 2007). With Shaw and Cox already committed, McGuffie may not want to compete in a crowded backfield. Cal doesn't have a single RB recruit this year.
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They also have 4 star RB Terrence Robinson. He hasn't sent his LOI yet that I know of, but I agree that McGufie is probably worried about playing time with all these running backs either committed or expected to commit. Guess we will just have to wait and see.
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They also have 4 star RB Terrence Robinson. He hasn't sent his LOI yet that I know of, but I agree that McGufie is probably worried about playing time with all these running backs either committed or expected to commit. Guess we will just have to wait and see.
Yeah, Robinson is more of a slash type player though. Most of his time will be spent in the slot. While he may get some carries they may come on reverses or possibly direct snaps from under center. He may get the occasional carry at RB but it won't be the norm IMO.
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They also have 4 star RB Terrence Robinson. He hasn't sent his LOI yet that I know of, but I agree that McGufie is probably worried about playing time with all these running backs either committed or expected to commit. Guess we will just have to wait and see.
Yeah, Robinson is more of a slash type player though. Most of his time will be spent in the slot. While he may get some carries they may come on reverses or possibly direct snaps from under center. He may get the occasional carry at RB but it won't be the norm IMO.
I wondered. I saw he was really small, even for the spread, for a running back. Some of these guys I can only go by physical stats because I know next to nothing about them.
I also noticed that the quarterback from Trotwood, Domenik Britt, has Michigan on his list, but not at the top (according to rivals). I wonder if Pryor goes else where if Michigan will at least make a play for him. We just got his runningback and his wide receiver, so I think that could be a huge pitch if we turn to try to sign him.
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Elliot Mealer's story is a pretty heartbreaking one. I'm just really rooting for him. Seems to be a great kid and a heck of a football player.
As good of a football player he is...he's even a better person, watching Elliot over the last few years has really been a pleasure to everyone in Wauseon, when the news broke Christmas eve / day about the accident which took the lives of this father & girlfriend it shocked but also touched everybody in this community, I know it did our family and we know them only from afar.
As for Michigan raiding Ohio, all but one is on the offencive side of the ball, I think they see a oppurtunity to play right away in Michigan with the new system, something they might not have gotten at OSU, talent wise i'm partcial to Ohio talent and do think Tressel is looking or was aiming for more player from SEC teritory than home grown boys and it shows in Michigans numbers, Maybe the pressure on Tressel to beat SEC teams might have lead him down south more to recruit leaving Ohio open to Michigan, kind of a if ya cant beat them recruit them.
Elliot committed to michigan pretty early, Funny thing is his dad was a hugh Ohio State fan, I mean big OSU fan, but told Elliot, you go where your heart tells you, your my son, I'll back you where ever you go, nobody was more proud than Elliots dad was when he committed to play at Michigan, Shows a fathers love for his son has no boundries or colors. Were Buckeye's in our house, but also Elliot fans.....
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Such are terrible thing that happened to him, I cant even imagine.
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There's many families in this area that are pulling for Elliot.
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There's many families in this area that are pulling for Elliot.
Thanks Arch.....your right about that.......I always thought Archbold people might have hearts.......LOL.....
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For all of those who said Michigan is winning Ohio.... The only ones OSU really lost out on was Koger and Jenkins. Tressel and the Bucks got who they wanted.
Who needs Mealer when you have Adams, Brewster, and Shugarts.
By the way... word is Pryor WOULD HAVE committed to OHIO STATE today. That supposively came from his mouth. However he didn't because he still hasn't gotten to visit Oregon and wants to make an official to PSU. He can also go back to OSU if he wants for an unofficial.
The only thing about this class that I don't like is that DeVoe is not a part of it. We told him he would be the only RB we recruit and then he goes and gets in trouble out of school and in school with his grades.
I think in 3 years... this will be one of the best OSU classes..with or without Pryor.
IMO... Pryor ends up a Buckeye. He will have to carry Michigan and PSU as a Freshman. In Columbus... He can play the Tebow role and step in his second year and become the superstar he is made out to be. He'll takes snaps behind a top 5 line in the nation every year he is there and will be throwing to Robo, Hartline, Small, Dane, Taurian, Posey, Stoneburner, Thomas, and so on. He'll also be able to share the run with Thomas, Wells, Herron, and Saine.
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For all of those who said Michigan is winning Ohio....
These are kids who weren't going to Ohio State anyway,...now if they had been 6 of the top 20 that Ohio State " REALLY " wanted bad, that might be something to brag about. That Michigan gets kids from Ohio is a given. They are a program that has to recruit elsewhere.
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I think the recruiting wars are way overrated. And I can speak from experience on that one.
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I agree, but Michigan fans brag about "stealing" kids from Ohio. I don't get it. It's not theft, they HAVE to recruit Ohio.
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Clay, what are your thoughts on UM making such a splash in Ohio (6 top 20 commits) in a shortened recruiting season for this new staff? Pretty shocking for me.....Here's who they landed:
Rivals.com Ohio recruit rankings:
#7 RB Michael Shaw
#10 TE/WR Kevin Kroger
#13 TE/WR Brandon Moore
#14 OT Elliot Mealer
#16 OLB Taylor Hill
#17 WR Roy Roundtree
I'm not Clay but i'd like to respond. I think the reason is that none of those players were high on OSU's list so they weren't recruited that hard. Not to say they aren't good players cause some of them are but due to circumstances most weren't really needed. OSU recruited 2 RBs last year giving them 4 on scholarship so they were only likely to take 1 this year which they had a commitment from the top back in Ohio (DeVoe Torrence) but pulled it last week do to character concerns. As for Koger and Moore i believe they did have interest in Koger but he committed fairly early to Michigan, as for Moore OSU already had a commit from Stoneburner and only wanted to take 1 more TE and their recruiting staff had DiLillo rated higher so they offered him instead. As for Mealer, i think the reason there was because OSU already had commits early last spring from 3 of the top Olinemen in the country in Adams, Brewster, and Shugarts plus were high on Jenkins list so they didn't make much effort if any on him. On Hill, i don't think OSU even recruited him, they already have a ton of LBs on scholarship and i think the only reason the took any in this class was because they thought Laurinaitis or Freeman might go pro and 2 of the top LBers in the country in Sweat and Sabino showed interest in OSU early. And lastly as far as Roundtree he was ranked as the # 3 WR in the state and OSU got an early commit for Posey the # 1 WR in the state early in the recruiting process and while Roundtree will probably a good WR OSU wanted to use their other scholarship on WR with some speed hence Lamaar Thomas being the other recruit (supposedly has sub 4.4 speed). Like i said its not that these guys aren't good players but just due to circumstances weren't really recruited by OSU.
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I agree, but Michigan fans brag about "stealing" kids from Ohio. I don't get it. It's not theft, they HAVE to recruit Ohio.
coming from you that is absolutely priceless.
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Just confirmed McGuffie signed and faxed his LOI........that caps off a recruiting class for UM that boasts 17 4-star recruits, in a year where there was a coaching change. Pretty good stuff from Carr and RR. To start off 2008, UM has landed a commitment from 5-star DT William Cambell out of Detroit Cass-Tech, the #11 overall prospect in the country. With that said, the most important name in 2008 for UM will be Mike Barwis. You'll hear about him soon enough. 
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Just confirmed McGuffie signed and faxed his LOI........that caps off a recruiting class for UM that boasts 17 4-star recruits, in a year where there was a coaching change. Pretty good stuff from Carr and RR.
To start off 2008, UM has landed a commitment from 5-star DT William Cambell out of Detroit Cass-Tech, the #11 overall prospect in the country. With that said, the most important name in 2008 for UM will be Mike Barwis. You'll hear about him soon enough.
I'm guessing you mean the class of 2009? I've heard of Campbell, and just had to look up Barwis. When I first read it I thought he was an 09 recruit.
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Just confirmed McGuffie signed and faxed his LOI........that caps off a recruiting class for UM that boasts 17 4-star recruits, in a year where there was a coaching change. Pretty good stuff from Carr and RR.
To start off 2008, UM has landed a commitment from 5-star DT William Cambell out of Detroit Cass-Tech, the #11 overall prospect in the country. With that said, the most important name in 2008 for UM will be Mike Barwis. You'll hear about him soon enough.
I'm guessing you mean the class of 2009? I've heard of Campbell, and just had to look up Barwis. When I first read it I thought he was an 09 recruit.
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As for Mealer, i think the reason there was because OSU already had commits early last spring from 3 of the top Olinemen in the country in Adams, Brewster, and Shugarts plus were high on Jenkins list so they didn't make much effort if any on him.
100% right, I have heard and this is only from water cooler talk, Tressel did talk to Elliot and explain that exact circumstance, welcoming him if he wanted to walk on, but couldnt offer any thing. Totally understood his dicision to attend michigan, wished Elliot well and said hopefully someday i'll regret not having offered you a scholorship....Remember this is cooler talk i didnt hear this from the mouth of Elliot or family.
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