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#228804 02/11/08 01:57 AM

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Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? TheJoker #228805 02/11/08 08:52 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,836 Sixburgh, PA christy Steeler
christy Steeler Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,836 Sixburgh, PA	As a smoker, it hasn't affected me at all. I still go out to bars/restaurants that are non-smoking. If I need to smoke, I step outside, no big deal to me....I've adapted. There isn't a statewide ban in PA. I live right on the border of 2 counties....one has a smoking ban in effect, the other doesn't. However, most of my favorite restaurants are in the county that has the smoking ban. I will still patronize those restaurants....in fact, I prefer restaurants to be smoke free, because I don't want to smell smoke while I'm eating.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? christy #228806 02/11/08 01:01 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	I kind of like going to bars and not being in a fog. But I dislike going to bowling alleys and having it smell like a bowling alley. The smoky smell in there was a good thing.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? TheJoker #228807 02/11/08 10:44 PM
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dawglover05 Legend D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,881 Ooberville	I find going out a lot more pleasurable, but I had to go with the ninja choice, just because I really am. Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown #gmstrong

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? TheJoker #228808 02/16/08 06:28 AM
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legalizewd Dawg Talker L Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,465 Howland	It hasnt affected me as far as going out. More NE Ohio bars need to get those outdoor heaters they have had in Columbus for the past few years. I dont have as much natural insulation as most people. It would make it easier to quit smoking. When I quit for a couple of months, it made it hard to go to the bar and not smoke. As a non smoker it hurt my eyes. I started smoking from bummin one here and there at the bar. Then started buying packs when I went to the bar because I remember how much I hated people asking me for a smoke. It went all downhill from there. I always thought drinking made me want a cigerette more but when I quit the beer actually tasted better and I drank faster.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? TheJoker #228809 02/16/08 11:56 AM
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BrownBuck Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,333 Hilliard, Ohio	Hands down..I LOVE IT! I remember when i turned 18 and went out to a club i hated it..i couldn't stand how i had to take a shower when i came home cuz i couldn't even sleep with that smell on me...pukes... Anyways it's great not to die of second hand smoke while i'm trying to enjoy my night with few friends and killing myself through alcohol consumption

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? BrownBuck #228810 02/16/08 12:13 PM
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DawgMichelle Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,955 SW Ohio	Such a drama queen. #gmstrong #gmlapdance

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? BrownBuck #228811 02/16/08 05:25 PM
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Ammo Hall of Famer A Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,531 Chesterland, OH	I love it. I'm so glad not to come home smelling like smoke anymore. It's better to reek of Bud Light

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? Ammo #228812 02/16/08 06:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,718 Pennsylvania shepdawg Hall of Famer
shepdawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,718 Pennsylvania	Well, as of right now the number of ninjas is outnumbering those of you who love it. (rollyeyes for ninja option being in poll, not for your response)

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? TheJoker #228813 02/24/08 08:04 PM
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StarglowEnergy Dawg Talker S Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,739 Tampa, Florida	It is a major PITA to be shooting pool with a stick in hand and not a smoke in my mouth! I hate walking outside, because a bunch of people voted for such a stupid thing! GO BROWNS!

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? shepdawg #228814 02/24/08 08:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio YTownBrownsFan Legend
YTownBrownsFan Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio	Quote: Well, as of right now the number of ninjas is outnumbering those of you who love it. (rollyeyes for ninja option being in poll, not for your response) And the number who love it outnumber those who hate it ...... So your point was .......? Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God. John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? YTownBrownsFan #228815 02/25/08 01:11 AM
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CDawg Dawg Talker Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,086 Cleveland	It's been great! Nice to go out and not smell like I smoked 10 packs of cigarettes when I don't smoke at all. If you want to smoke, great, do it at your expense, not mine. Too bad it took so long for such a brilliant law to pass.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? CDawg #228816 02/25/08 05:04 AM
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choco 1st String C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 323	edit for rule violation..... Last edited by choco; 02/25/08 05:20 AM.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? TheJoker #228817 03/03/08 11:49 PM
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OnB Bengal Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,908 HH	I still go out. I used to burn through a whole pack or more in one night... now I smoke maybe 5 or 6 in a night. I guess for me, I've finally accepted it, but it still isn't beneficial to the VFW's attendance and profits, which is very sad to me. Birds of War

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? AdManager #228818 03/20/08 11:40 PM
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Groza76 1st String Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 495 Oklahoma	doesn't affect me at all. I quit 25 years ago Groza76 Go Browns, WIN or lose, forever!

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? Groza76 #228819 03/21/08 09:55 AM
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kingodawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky	I love being able to take my kids to a restaurant and not have smoke drifting over from the smoking section. KING You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? kingodawg #228820 03/21/08 11:25 AM
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BpG Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,869 Columbus, Ohio	J/C Love it Love it Love it~!

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? StarglowEnergy #228821 03/21/08 09:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky kingodawg Hall of Famer
kingodawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky	Quote: It is a major PITA to be shooting pool with a stick in hand and not a smoke in my mouth! I hate walking outside, because a bunch of people voted for such a stupid thing! Seems to me the majorty of people like it, sorry to mess up your pool game. KING You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? TheJoker #228822 03/21/08 11:33 PM
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bringbackbernie All Pro B Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 747 West Chester	I love going to a bar, pool hall, bowling alley, etc. and not smelling like an ashtray. [color:"white"]I've always been crazy, but it's kept me from going insane -Waylon Jennings

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? bringbackbernie #228823 03/22/08 02:34 AM
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BuckDawg1946 Hall of Famer Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,960 Fort Collins, Colorado	pool halls should be allowed to smoke.______vet_ . President - Fort Collins Browns Backers

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? YTownBrownsFan #228824 03/22/08 07:36 AM
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shepdawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,718 Pennsylvania	Quote: Quote: Well, as of right now the number of ninjas is outnumbering those of you who love it. (rollyeyes for ninja option being in poll, not for your response) And the number who love it outnumber those who hate it ...... So your point was .......? Sorry, didn't see this previously..... I thought my "point" was obvious. If people include stupid poll options or slant the answers so one choice isn't better than another for lots of folks, then there is no "consensus." Your "point" of those who love it outnumber those who hate it is invalid due to the ninja option. My "point" of the number of those who love it being outnumbered by Ninjas had nothing to do with my vote in the poll or whether or not I "love or hate" it, so if you construed your rolly eyes reply from that you were incorrect. As to whether or not I do hate or love it, there is a middle ground.....I hate smoke, but I realize that it is a personal choice and people should be allowed to make that personal choice, but by the same token they should not be allowed to make that choice for others. For someone to state that it is their "right" to smoke, you and I can argue that it is our right to not be offended by that person's personal choice to smoke by having it within our clothes and lungs. As for the previous arguments about how it does not affect business, that is complete and utter hogwash. You can say that parking lots are still full, and I can show that receipts dropped off dramatically between the ban AND the increase of the cost of gasoline at about the same time. I'll take receipts/deposits vs your car count any day of the week. Veteran's organizations and member clubs (Moose, Elks, Eagles) should have been allowed an exemption. The biggest travesty was and is the fact that people did not know what they were voting for.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? shepdawg #228825 03/22/08 07:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio YTownBrownsFan Legend
YTownBrownsFan Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio	Quote: The biggest travesty was and is the fact that people did not know what they were voting for. Ah but people did know what they were voting for. It was all there in black and white. What was also there in black and white was an attempt by the tobacco industry to put through some garbage amendment that would have taken all local non-smoking laws and trashed them. It backfired on them. How long has it been since this law was passed now anyway? I believe that it's been under enforcement for better than a year now. None of the bars that I routinely drive by have boarded up. The couple of bars that I go to from time to time are still doing about the same business. (from a decidedly unscientific visual estimation) Further, even one bar owner who complained bitterly about how it was going to kill his business has just quieted down ..... and continues collecting his receipts ...... and continues in business ..... a year plus later .... with no sign of slowing down ..... How many bars have boarded up in your neck of the woods? I bet it's not many. How about pool halls ...... bowling alleys ..... private clubs ...... ? I can't recall seeing any around here. Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God. John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? YTownBrownsFan #228826 03/23/08 09:26 AM
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DawgMichelle Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,955 SW Ohio	It's not about what you see...it's about the facts. Check them out. #gmstrong #gmlapdance

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? DawgMichelle #228827 03/23/08 11:36 AM
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kingodawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky	Quote: It's not about what you see...it's about the facts. Check them out. If you see something happening, isnt that a fact? I have yet to see a bar go out of business, as a matter of fact I see more and more opening. KING You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? kingodawg #228828 03/23/08 04:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio YTownBrownsFan Legend
YTownBrownsFan Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio	Yep. fact is, I've seen almost every bar create a smoking patio where patrons can go smoke if they choose ....... and I see a number of people at a time outside smoking. Another fact is that so many bar owners said that this law would put them out of business by now ..... yet they are still going strong. Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God. John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? kingodawg #228829 03/23/08 11:30 PM
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DawgMichelle Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,955 SW Ohio	Well then, I apologize. It's great that know how their books have been affected from the ban. My bad. #gmstrong #gmlapdance

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? DawgMichelle #228830 03/24/08 01:16 AM
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kingodawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky	Quote: Well then, I apologize. It's great that know how their books have been affected from the ban. My bad. Well obviously their books arent too bad or they wouldnt be staying open. KING You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? YTownBrownsFan #228831 03/24/08 06:49 AM
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shepdawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,718 Pennsylvania	Quote: Yep. fact is, I've seen almost every bar create a smoking patio where patrons can go smoke if they choose ....... and I see a number of people at a time outside smoking. Well then......it's hard to argue your facts of going to every establishment in each of the 88 counties to observe the construction of outdoor patios and taking these census of people standing outside every bar in the state of Ohio. What the hell was I thinking????? Quote: Another fact is that so many bar owners said that this law would put them out of business by now ..... yet they are still going strong. You've seen their books then?

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? shepdawg #228832 03/24/08 08:19 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio YTownBrownsFan Legend
YTownBrownsFan Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,938 YTown, Ohio	Quote: You've seen their books then? You have? All of them? In all 88 counties? As some Head Coach once said ..... "I can only go by what I see". What I see in this area is bars still open for business ..... most of them having new smoking patios, and (apparently) lots of happy patrons. Further, I don't see bars going out of business in this area. If anyone in the Youngstown area can give me a list of bars who have boarded up in the past year, then maybe I'd revise my opinion ...... but I personally haven't seen many ... and I can't recall a single one that didn't have other legal issues that closed them down. Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God. John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? YTownBrownsFan #228833 03/24/08 09:22 AM
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JulesDawg Legend J Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,367	Well, I guess I should just ignore the local news story where they interviewed bar owners who said it is hurting their businesses, and I should ignore Mike Taggart, who owns our Browns bar, when I've talked to him personally about how much money he says he's lost since it started, and I should probably also ignore the poster on this board who owns a bar and who has posted about it many times because Y-Town knows all!!

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? shepdawg #228834 03/24/08 12:05 PM
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lampdogg Legend L Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 13,732 east coast Canada	Quote: Veteran's organizations and member clubs (Moose, Elks, Eagles) should have been allowed an exemption. No they shouldn't be allowed an exemption. It would be unfair to the other business owners - it should be a level playing field across the board. The VLT users (slots) - a lot of them smoke, and would just go to the places that still allowed smoking. FWIT: the town I live in went non-smoking five years ago and while the odd bar has closed, another would spring up to take its place. Bars survive mostly because of the slot machines (VLTs), in my opinion. They are a license to print money for bar owners. gmstrong -----------------

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? lampdogg #228835 03/24/08 12:09 PM
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BpG Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,869 Columbus, Ohio	Did I mention I love the smoking ban? C’mon IRE get upset about it already!

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? JulesDawg #228836 03/24/08 12:25 PM
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kingodawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky	Quote: because Y-Town knows all!! Was that really necessary?? Ytown never claimed to know all, he gave his opinion based on his experiences and his personal observations. You sure get snippy when someone elses opinion differs from yours. KING You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? BpG #228837 03/24/08 12:43 PM
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JulesDawg Legend J Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,367	Yeah, it's real funny that Ire's business is losing money, that's a riot.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? kingodawg #228838 03/24/08 12:45 PM
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JulesDawg Legend J Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,367	That's the way he was coming off about it, because he "sees" a certain thing then that must be indicative of bars in Ohio. It has nothing to do with my "opinion" on this subject. And King, don't tell me how to post.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? JulesDawg #228839 03/24/08 01:23 PM
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kingodawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky	Quote: That's the way he was coming off about it, because he "sees" a certain thing then that must be indicative of bars in Ohio. It has nothing to do with my "opinion" on this subject. And King, don't tell me how to post. I went back and read my post to you several times to make sure, but I am pretty sure I never TOLD you how to post, I asked you question. See that little ? thingy? That means question. Ok so maybe the bars receipts are down a little, cant be too much or they would be going out of business. My personal observation is that there still seems to be a crowd at the bar at the same times there has always been crowds at the bar, the bars were packed on St Pattys day, as usual, people I know who I go to the bar with who smoke, still go to the bar as usual. Maybe at first there was a little bit of a downturn but IMO it will all level out. KING You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? kingodawg #228840 03/24/08 01:30 PM
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JulesDawg Legend J Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,367	You know what you meant, no reason to play coy. I'm just relating what I've heard and been told by actual bar owners. I tend to believe them over people that are just guessing.

Re: How has the smoking ban affected you? JulesDawg #228841 03/24/08 01:51 PM
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kingodawg Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,349 Barbertucky	Quote: You know what you meant, no reason to play coy. I'm just relating what I've heard and been told by actual bar owners. I tend to believe them over people that are just guessing. Ok then I guess I shouldnt bitch about paying so damn much for a freaking chicken wing. Do you remember before buffalo wings became so popular they were a nickel a piece?? Damn I am sounding old KING You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG