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My grandpa died in october. He spent 2 1/2 years in a home - thank God he still had his mind. I stopped a minimum of once a week to see him. I know his 4 kids stopped at least once a week.

2 things: one being when people lose their minds, I can see family not stopping in as often. Two: if a relationship was not good prior to being in a home, it's not going to get better once you are in one.

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This post is not meant to knock those of you who have children. I'm just wondering how much of a minority I am on this board. My wife and I have opted out of the parenting thing. We don't have children and have no plans on starting. I'm 35 she's 31. This isn't something we'll change our minds on at this point, as we are so often told by older couples when we speak of our future. "Oh you'll change your minds." as if we haven't thought this out.
Amongst our friends we have many couples who feel the same way. No children. Some of our friends are in their 40's and don't have kids. I've talked to them about how their lives differ from their friends lives that chose the "family" route. They seem content with their decision.
So my question to you... Am I alone on this board? Are there any other non breeders out there? How has this changed your lives? How have your family and friends treated your choice?



I respect this decision a lot. I think it takes a lot of honesty and ability to be totally transparent on this kind of issue, which you've done.

There are a lot of people out there who produce children out of wedlock that they can barely take care of, so I'd think when someone consciously decides to not have children, it's a smarter decision than when someone has a kid and shouldn't.

Me on the other hand? 19 great grandchildren on my dad's side of the family...and my girlfriend has a fertile family...hello Jon and Kate Plus 8 for this guy.

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Thanks for all the responses. Sometimes I wonder if I'm NOT having kids just to spite all those who think "I'll change my mind". Or if I'm not having kids because it's what I've told myself for so many years.

Having a child is a huge decision ( or a happy accident). There is a heavy reality to being responsible for another being.

Not having kids has it's own weight. It's nice to know I'm not alone in my decision.


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I can't wait to have kids!!! But I need to be married first... so it could be awhile

But I have the upmost respect for those who choose not to have kids. I don't see anything wrong with it... I get more mad at people who have kids who have no buisness having them... or those who keep having kids (5,6,7 ect) when they are already on welfare.


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I love the fact that I am a father and was blessed with 2 daughters. They have changed my life and me as a person in a very good way. They are my life now and everything I do and sacrifice is for them. But, I can understand why people wouldn't want kids. When I was younger (I am 30) I didn't think I wanted kids basically out of selfish reasons; I didn't want to be annoyed with the 3-4am feedings, crying, poopy diapers, etc. Sure babies are cute but they also are high maintenance and I liked being able to go out and do what I wanted to do without having to find a sitter. I can understand that some adults when they hit their 40's or 50's that may not want to start a family in their golden years.
I really started thinking about children when my now wife and I had been together for 3 years. I figured out I wanted to spend my life with her and she wanted children so we started talking about it. Neither of my girls were planned in the sense that they came earlier than I would have liked. The plan was to finish school before we got married, get into our careers, a house, and then try for kids. This way we would be financially stable. But as life can be things didn't happen that way. I injured my back pretty bad and had 2 surgeries, which postponed school until I finally was able to go back last year. I proposed to her and 4 months before our wedding she was pregnant (the priest loved that lol) When I finally got back into school full-time and changed jobs, it happened again. It's rough to go to school full-time, work full-time, and raise my 2 girls but there the reason why I'm doing it.


Now we are talking about if we want a 3rd. I really, really, really want a son. Part of me though does not want 3 kids. 2 is almost perfect, 3 can be rough. I am the oldest of 3 kids (4 if you count my older 1/2 sister) and I remember what we put my mom thru. Once I am done with school we will talk more about it and if it happens before then, well then we will deal with it just like before. Now, if it did happen and I got my 3rd daughter, ugh. Go for 4? lol I seriously thank God though each night for blessing me with the 2 I have for I know some people can't. Right time, wrong time, like I said they have changed me for the better and the experience has been awesome. Watching your kids being born has been one of the most powerful experiences of my life. Teaching them to walk and talk, having them cry when I have to leave them with my mom to go to work and have them run up yelling "daddy!" when i come home makes me

All I know is when I do manage to get a house the basement is all MINE! I am surrounded by females as it is I deff need a place to run and hide. And as for their teen years,,good God help me (and the poor bastage that tried to date them. :makes gun cocking noise:


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I'd like to have kids, but it's kind of out of my control. I need a wife for that and I don't think there's a girl in the world that would marry me.

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I'd like to have kids, but it's kind of out of my control. I need a wife for that and I don't think there's a girl in the world that would marry me.




Ken, you will find that special woman one day when you least expect it. Yes, you will find your perfect woman and have kids if you both want them. Have faith my friend.


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And as for their teen years,,good God help me (and the poor bastage that tried to date them. :makes gun cocking noise:



My older sister has three boys. She has a saying, " When you have boys, you only have to worry about your boys. When you have girls, you have to worry about ALL the boys."


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I am really not looking forward to that age for real. I remember how I was back then I know one thing, on a first date I better meet him and he best call me sir, or he will be going on this date alone. If she is 1 minute late I am in my driveway waiting with a bat, or my AR-10


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I like kids, but not enough to have one around me all day every day. My wife feels pretty much the same way - neither of us feels an urgency to have a child. She's in her late 30s so time is running out, the window is closing.
Sometimes we think 'maybe it would be nice to have a kid'... but that feeling goes away.


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Sometimes we think 'maybe it would be nice to have a kid'... but that feeling goes away.




Ah, it's great. Even when your daughter gets the flu and pukes all over herself, the couch and the floor. Then, after picking her up to run to the bathroom she pukes on you and a new spot on the floor.

Then, after cleaning her up and getting new pajamas on, and putting a sleeping bag on the floor of your own bedroom, and putting a bucket beside her and saying "if you do it again, get it in here", THEN, after spending an hour cleaning up the puke and chicken chunks you made her finish at supper time you hear her puking again in the next room and run in to say "good job - way to get it in the bucket" you realize that the bucket is just as you left it but there's a new pile of puke on the bedroom floor. Then, after putting her sleeping bag in the washer, getting another one out, cleaning up the new spot, you finally collaps into bed at 3 a.m. - only to awake to the sense that someone is watching you.

You roll over immediately to see your daughter and say "get the bucket!!! get the bucket!!!", only to have her say "daddy, I'm not going to puke - I'm thirsty". So, thinking that a few sips of 7-up might be okay, you go get it, she takes a sip while sitting on your bed, then proceeds to puke all over the comforter, sheets, and pillows......after cleaning up yet again, you decide to grab a blanket and lay on the floor beside your 5 yr. old - at about 5 a.m.

Then, when your wife comes home at 7 a.m. from her 3rd shift job the first thing your wife does is say "what is going on? Why is she down here, and why is their no bedding on the bed?"

Is it times like that that make you think of not having kids? If so, I know what you mean. My wife has missed 2 episodes like this, although the second one wasn't quite as bad since my daughter had "experience" at puking. Although, the second time she started puking when I was giving her a bath - but we have a tile floor so the clean up was much easier.

Damn 3rd shift working wife.

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The puking is the part I'm worried about as a soon-to-be parent. I don't mind newborn spit up...but full on puke....Excuse me while I go puke too!


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Trust me, the baby stuff is nothing......my daughter was 5 when the first full on "flu" hit, and wow!

She's 7 now, been sick with the flu twice, and my wife has never had to deal with it.

But, like I said, my daughter is getting better. The second time, when she was done for the time being, she even apologized to me. I said "sooga, you don't need to apologize - if you get sick you can't help it". It made her feel better about the tub and the floor.

And yes, "sooga" is what I call her.

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That pretty much sums up last Saturday night for me and my 4 year old daughter. 3 pairs of pajamas for her, 2 for me, her bed linens, my bed linens, 4 bath towels, one early Sunday morning trip to the store for more Resolve, 2 hours of sleep... I wouldn't go so far as to say it was fun... but it's hard to explain to somebody who has no kids how that ain't so bad..

The best part (and if you're squeemish, stop reading)... I'm on my hands and knees cleaning up the 4th puke of the night and I feel this little hand on my back and as I turn, she says "I love you" and gives me a kiss on the cheek.. with chunky stuff still around her mouth.. My wife about puked at that.. fortunately, I'm not so squeemish..


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I feel this little hand on my back and as I turn, she says "I love you" and gives me a kiss




A lil tear just fell from my eye, Kid's are so great!

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Ahhh. There's that overwhelming feeling of I know I'm doing the right thing by not having kids. Thanks for the stories.


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Im glad you are happy with your life As for me?...I wouldnt have it any other way, I love my daughter and the joy she has gave me.

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Similar story,

My daughter is 1 day old and I'm holding her above my head looking up at her , yeah I know but I was new at it , and asking her if she knew how much I loved her. As I was Ewwwing and Ahhing she spit up right down my mouth.

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The puking is the part I'm worried about as a soon-to-be parent. I don't mind newborn spit up...but full on puke....Excuse me while I go puke too!




Just wait till your walking thru the mall with the little one, and they puke down your shirt. Then you have the joy of having it run down the front of you all the way into your underwear Now thats one gross feeling


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The puking is the part I'm worried about as a soon-to-be parent. I don't mind newborn spit up...but full on puke....Excuse me while I go puke too!




Just wait till your walking thru the mall with the little one, and they puke down your shirt. Then you have the joy of having it run down the front of you all the way into your underwear Now thats one gross feeling




LOL! Now we all know you liked that.

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Oh God! You guys are going to make me puke over here with your tales of puking. *holding puke back*


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Oh God! You guys are going to make me puke over here with your tales of puking. *holding puke back*




Get this: so we're celebrating my parents 45th anniversary, at a restaurant, and I grab one of my twin nephews - about 1 1/2 yrs. old at the time. The food comes and my bro in law says "let me take him, you don't need to hold him while you eat". Okay. So dad, my b.i.l., puts him in his car seat, which is on the floor.........Corbin is crying like crazy, so dad picks him up.

Not 2 minutes later, Corbin has a GM blowout - all over dad - pants, shirt........I got lucky.

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We used to call my nephew "the fountain" because when he was a baby, we'd feed him then lay him down after burping him. Then, about 5 minutes later, he'd spew, straight into the air, and all over my couch.

But his I didn't mind, he was just spitting up formula at that point. I can't even watch tv shows that show people puking.


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That'll happen.

I didn't make clear in my post that Corbin wasn't puking, he was eating, without the "e", the "a", but with an "s", "h", "i" and then another t.........all over.

Great, now I'll probably get banned.

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I kinda guessed what you meant.


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I kinda guessed what you meant.




The GM part made it clear to me.

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LOL! Now we all know you liked that.




I must have liked it. because my son did it to me twice




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lol, wow talk about having your hands full. You know till I had my girls I never had changed a diaper and only helped clean up puke 2 times (one a g/f and the other a punk ass who yacked in my car). I was about to puke cleaning it up, but now that stuff doesn't faze me in the slightest. We are potty training my 2 year old and she had a period of exploring her diaper and smearing it everywhere when she was one. Now she is using the potty pretty regularly and I feel accomplished My other daughter just turned 1 last month so it's time for round 2 now

Lucky for me Ali was only really sick one time. She was 8 months old and se was puking everywhere. I felt so bad for her and everytime I would get her to sleep she puked all over her crib, herself, etc. So I made her a little bed in our room on the floor and went thru 3 sets of sheets. Someone actually called the police on me b/c she was crying so much from being sick(we lived in a apartment). I was freaking out a lil b/c I knew she was dehydrated and couldn't get her to keep formula or pedalyte(sp) down. This went on all night and the better part of the next day.
lol, last night she looked a lil flushed and felt kinda warm. I asked her "hey Al, are you feeling a little sick?" Now I had just gotten home and she was running around yelling "daddy daddy!" But the second I asked if she might be a little sick she stops, puts her hand over her head, voise gets a little shaky and she says "yes daddy :fake cough: I sick, I have the coughs and the fevers" She is a trip
She is trying to get my attention as we speak now. She was good and cleaned up all these damn legos so I let her stay up while I study (and mommys not home muhahaha)


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Puking and other bodily functions are easy to deal with because they are "natural"... it's the other things kids do that you can't anticipate that really get you.

One time, we were shoe shopping, my son was about 3 1/2. We asked the sales lady if she could find them in his size. They were on the very bottom shelf near the floor. She was struggling to get down that far to get them. My son immediately hops off the bench and dashes over and picks them up and hands them to her and says, "Here you go."

I was so proud, what a little gentleman. Then he dashes back over to me, hops back up on the bench and announcers really loud, "Did you see dad? I helped that really fat woman get those shoes because she can't even touch the floor." ... and my shining moment was gone.


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My girl has gastric reflux (and I think something else as well). She's spit up and thrown up since she was about 2 months old. She still does, and she's 20 months old now. Not as often, but if she drinks her whole bottle and tries to burp and doesn't, she'll end up dry heaving and then puking.


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Is she eating better now?


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I met my girlfriend Feb. 1 2004. Just over four years now. I came into our relationship wanting kids badly. I was 34 and she was 37. She never really wanted kids and was married previously for 15 years. I was married for a few years myself with stepchildren. Anyway, she said "maybe" to me early on which quickly changed to "never" . I had the choice of moving on with her or staying. I stayed because I loved her very much. So, now 4 years later and having two AWESOME Great Danes(Daphne and Gracie) I am very happy with my choice. I rather be with my girl without kids than without my girl with kids with someone else. Just my take.


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We're both 30 and not planning on having any children. As much as I'd like to mold a new computer geek, Browns (Packers) fan, it's just not appealing enough to overcome our doubts. We like our lives as they are.


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It's funny how we also treat our animals as kids isn't it? before we were married and had kids my wife bought me a kitten for my apartment when we weren't living together. When we moved in together we treated the damn cat like he was our son hehe. He ran away when we moved here and I had the thing for 8 years almost. Now we rescued another one I call "lardass" b/c he isn't even a year old and is huge. His gut swings when he runs lol. He pals around with the kids and thinks he is one, so we treat him like one of our kids. I do really want a dog but I don't have a yard thats my own and wouldn't want to limit him in any way from running and stuff.


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