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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ak...p&type=lgnsNiners cut longtime leading tackler Derek Smith 1 hour, 3 minutes ago SendEmail IM Sharedel.icio.us digg Yahoo! Bookmarks StumbleUpon Google Bookmarks PrintText Size: Default: A Large: A Larger: A SANTA CLARA, Calif. (AP)—The San Francisco 49ers waived linebacker Derek Smith on Tuesday, cutting ties with their longtime leading tackler whose role was assumed last season by rookie Patrick Willis. Smith, an 11-year pro who signed a three-year contract extension before the 2006 season, was due to make $3.28 million in base salary next season despite his dwindling role on the San Francisco defense. Willis, the NFL’s defensive rookie of the year, took over Smith’s role as the 49ers’ defensive leader and top tackler. “Derek has been an important member of the 49ers,” coach Mike Nolan said. “You don’t make these kinds of decisions without battling the emotion that is natural when you are dealing with a player that has done so much for your organization. We made the decision because we have quality linebackers who we think are the future of the 49ers. Derek was a model professional, and he influenced a lot of the younger players with his work ethic.” Smith has long been one of the NFL’s top unsung defensive players, annually racking up gaudy tackling statistics with little fanfare. He made at least 123 tackles in each of his first nine NFL seasons—four with Washington and five with San Francisco, where he has played since signing as a free agent in 2001. Smith was voted the 49ers’ co-MVP in 2005, but missed two games in 2006 because of a strained eye muscle that limited his peripheral vision, eventually requiring surgery. He started 14 games and made 98 tackles last season, but his playing time decreased significantly in the final months of San Francisco’s fifth straight losing campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the guy who lost his job to Patrick Willis. So its certainly not that he's a bad LB, and after a few years in Nolan's system the guy knows the 3-4. He was a perennial leading tackler. I think he'd be a guy worth bringing in to challenge for a starting spot here with Dra and Leon and Qwell.
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Yes, on a losing team. The question for me is where was he making the tackles? Can you say Andra Davis? JMHO Go Brownies!!!
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He's 33, I don't think we'd bring him in to take over any spots. The 9ers are transitioning to a younger defense, and we should be looking to do the same. I'd pass on Smith and let someone else drool over him.
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Interesting...
It could be easily argued that the Browns don't have a better LB on the roster than Smith...
He does have miles... If he is healthy and is a good value why not take a look? He is not a long term solution but he is worth a look. I think the guy only had just under 100 tackles in a reduced role last year...
The Browns can use some better quality depth @ ILB and OLB...
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Guys, he's also had surgery to correct a muscle problem in his one eye that prevented it from moving left and right. He's got double vision issues and basically is playing with one eye.
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As long as he can tackle both ball carriers...
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He was a perennial leading tackler. I think he'd be a guy worth bringing in to challenge for a starting spot here with Dra and Leon and Qwell.
Well, he's not.
Remember Wali Rainer? Lots of tackles? But 5-8 yards downfield? That's who Derek Smith is. He stinks.
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The Texans cut a few today; HOUSTON -- The Houston Texans cut centers Mike Flanagan and Drew Hodgdon, linebacker Shawn Barber and tight end Jeb Putzier on Wednesday. Flanagan lost his starting job to Steve McKinney in training camp, but started the last 13 games after McKinney suffered a season-ending injury. The 12-year veteran started 22 games in his two seasons with the Texans. Barber had two tackles in six games and spent the last eight games of the season on injured reserve with a neck injury. Putzier spent two seasons with the team and had six catches for 39 yards and a touchdown last season. Hodgdon spent four weeks on Houston's active roster and played in two games last season. Link
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Packers cut TE Franks; The Green Bay Packers have designated defensive tackle Corey Williams as their franchise player and released tight end Bubba Franks. The transactions were announced Wednesday by Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations Ted Thompson. Bubba Franks, TE Green Bay Packers Career statistics Years: 8 Catches: 256 Yards: 2,300 TDs: 32 As the Packers’ franchise player, Williams has a one-year contract tender offer at the defensive tackle franchise number set by the NFL. The Packers maintain a right of first refusal to match any team’s offer received by Williams. Williams played in all 16 games, including nine starts, in 2007 and set career highs with 51 tackles and 32 solo stops. He tied his career high with seven sacks. "Corey is a good young football player and has been a consistent performer for our team," said Thompson. Franks spent eight seasons with Green Bay and was one of the most productive tight ends in franchise history. Franks played in 114 games for the Packers and made 94 starts. A first-round draft choice in 2000, he totaled 256 catches and 2,300 career receiving yards. His 32 touchdown receptions are tied for 10th on the franchise’s all-time list. "We thank Bubba for everything he has given to our franchise," said Thompson. "He was a productive player on the field, a good teammate in the locker room and a fine representative of the Packers in the Green Bay community." Link
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wow! I thought Bubba would retire a Packer.... that's crazy.
Is Sopoaga still looking to be available??
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DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really wanted to see if Phil went after this guy. I was hoping we did. 
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Wow... I was aware he had corrective surgery... I am not aware his vision is as bad as you state it is... Do you have any links or articles to supprot what your stating? IF Smith was that bad he couldn't clear a physical or med tests...? Too bad if you are indeed right... After seeing and watching him play for years, he tackles everything that moves Marjax... That was funny even though... 
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Wrong... The guys makes plays all over the field... What Smith are you watching? The guys has been a very solid LB for 11 years... You don't have a clue... IMO
I'm not saying we have to have this guy... He is worth a look...
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He had the corrective surgery last summer, but he re-strained one of the muscles again this season. There are some serious doubts that he can play again. He had one year left on his deal with the Niners, and was hoping to play it out and finish his career there. I'm going to be surprised if he gets any bites, but maybe in summer he can be an injury pickup.
This is one article that mentions it...http://www.mercurynews.com/49ersheadlines/ci_8312056
Just google "Derek Smith eye" and you'll get a bunch of results for it.
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Wrong... The guys makes plays all over the field... What Smith are you watching? The guys has been a very solid LB for 11 years... You don't have a clue... IMO
Other than the Browns' final game this year (Smith didn't play), I didn't see any 49ers games. I'm going off what some 49er fans on another board said. You know... guys that watch every 49ers game.
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Smith's play has decreased in the past two seasons, but from 2001 to 2005 he was a very steady ILB who cleaned up the inside run well. He was never a great athlete, but he was around the ball. Yeah he's falling apart now, but he's at the end of his career.
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Smith's play has decreased in the past two seasons, but from 2001 to 2005 he was a very steady ILB who cleaned up the inside run well. He was never a great athlete, but he was around the ball. Yeah he's falling apart now, but he's at the end of his career.
As a more famous poster would say... STATS are for LOSERS. And there is no stat more misleading than number of tackles. Who cares how many tackles a player makes? More important is where he makes the tackles and how he makes the tackles.
I will say that Derek Smith obviously had some ability. It would be pretty difficult to play in the NFL for 11 seasons without it. I was addressing statements like "I think he'd be a guy worth bringing in to challenge for a starting spot here with Dra and Leon and Qwell." and "It could be easily argued that the Browns don't have a better LB on the roster than Smith." when I made the statement of "He stinks."
Does Phil have a time machine in Berea so he can bring in the Derek Smith of 2001?
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Smith's play has decreased in the past two seasons, but from 2001 to 2005 he was a very steady ILB who cleaned up the inside run well. He was never a great athlete, but he was around the ball. Yeah he's falling apart now, but he's at the end of his career.
As a more famous poster would say... STATS are for LOSERS. And there is no stat more misleading than number of tackles. Who cares how many tackles a player makes? More important is where he makes the tackles and how he makes the tackles.
I will say that Derek Smith obviously had some ability. It would be pretty difficult to play in the NFL for 11 seasons without it. I was addressing statements like "I think he'd be a guy worth bringing in to challenge for a starting spot here with Dra and Leon and Qwell." and "It could be easily argued that the Browns don't have a better LB on the roster than Smith." when I made the statement of "He stinks."
Does Phil have a time machine in Berea so he can bring in the Derek Smith of 2001?
Are you responding to my post? Because I never said his stats were godly. I said that his play decreased the past two seasons, but that for a period of about 5 seasons he was steady. I never said he was better than anyone on roster.
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Are you responding to my post? Because I never said his stats were godly. I said that his play decreased the past two seasons, but that for a period of about 5 seasons he was steady. I never said he was better than anyone on roster.
I was responding to your post. I mostly agree with your post. You made the point that Smith was solid from 2001 to 2005. I agreed by saying that it would be pretty miraculous for a guy to play 11 years in the NFL without being solid.
The posts I don't agree with are the one that says... "I think he'd be a guy worth bringing in to challenge for a starting spot here with Dra and Leon and Qwell." and the one that says... "It could be easily argued that the Browns don't have a better LB on the roster than Smith."
Those comments there are way out of line, IMO.
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Depth player, good player on a lot of bad teams. Injury issues.
IMO: We give him a one year deal like we did Lewis was last year. If he proves he can play and produce we talk extension.
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Thanks for the additional info... I have googled the guy and have other resources too... I have seen this guy play several times live and on the ticket many times. My son is a 9er fan and I have several other friends who are knowlegeable 9er fans... They all respect the hell out of Smith. Some posters read what they want to read... I don't think you or I stated or insinuated that we had to have the guy... Only that if certain things were in place he would be worth a look... I always consider the source... Thanks again man. 
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Some posters read what they want to read... I don't think you or I stated or insinuated that we had to have the guy... Only that if certain things were in place he would be worth a look...
Well certainly BigC never said anything like that. He said he'd be surprised if Smith "gets any bites" and "maybe in summer be an injury pickup." Hardly a ringing endorsement of Derek Smith, is it?
You, on the other hand, are the one who said, and I quote, "It could be easily argued that the Browns don't have a better LB on the roster than Smith." Ringing endorsement? Check.
So Boise, if Derek Smith is better than any other LB on the Browns roster, shouldn't we have to get this guy?
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So do you want to argue first? Or are you just conceding or saying that the Browns don't have a better LB on the roster than Smith... ? Just want to be clear and complete on what you are saying or not saying... I know what I stated here... "It could be easily argued that the Browns don't have a better LB on the roster than Smith... He does have miles... If he is healthy and is a good value why not take a look? He is not a long term solution but he is worth a look. I think the guy only had just under 100 tackles in a reduced role last year... The Browns can use some better quality depth @ ILB and OLB... " This is exactly what I wrote... You don't have to agree... Don't care if you do or not... But the guy is no where near as bad as you made him out to be... And by the way your weak link is a fantasy site with a hand full of Smith detractors just like yourself on it... Not exaclty an non-bias, trusted, credible source... So we can't use the experience of seeing Smith play several games live and at least a couple of dozen games on the ticket, stats or the opinions and knowledge of true hard core season ticket holding 9er fans... But we should listen to you, and accept or use your less than credible fantasy site with a hand full of Smith haters popping off... Nah... Not interested... Show me something viable and we'll go... If not, next...  
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And by the way your weak link is a fantasy site with a hand full of Smith detractors just like yourself on it... Not exaclty an non-bias, trusted, credible source...
That weak link is to the 49ers forum of a football message board.
The rules do not permit links to other message boards. They are not a credible source of information
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177 posts in that thread... probably about 60 or 70 different posters. But they don't have a CLUE either, I suppose.
Most don't. Look at your own arguement. You say one thing, your detractor says another. Which one can be linked to as a factual source? Neither. You both post opinions. Fans opinons are not facts. Nor are they credible in the sense of having extensive inside experience covering the NFL. All they are is other people who share the same opinion as yourself. They are not to be linked to on this board.
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Ice...I see your point.
but this guy, regardless of what we think of him...has been a leading tackler for several years. Until Patrick WIllis stepped in. Willis is a man-beast. So this guy is roughly a step or two lesser than a man-beast.
We have zero man-beasts on our squad. Whether this guy is good enough to play for SF means nothing to me. Sure they havent been good, but their D hasnt been all that bad. They went 7-9 a year ago without scoring more than 25 for most of their games. This past year, they wet over 20 maybe twice and this guy still had almost 100 tackles as a backup.
No matter how you slice it, this guy has been productive. I'm by no means saying we should go and sign this guy for 5 years at 10 mil a clip, but this guy definitely warrants a look. Whether its an extended look or just a brief one, this guy deserves a look.
49ers fans opinions dont mean all that much to me, because after seeing Patrick Willis i'd be against this guy too. Willis is amazing. Smith could just as easily be better than Qwell or Dra. He could be on the same level as them too, maybe he's a step slower. Point is, he's been productive and I dont see why he couldnt be for us, at the right price.
Its worth a look. Bring this guy in for a physical, and see what he can do.
If his eyes are a problem like its been stated, no worries, he doesnt need to sign anything. If they arent, give him a look. He has experience in the 3-4 and thats huge, no matter how you look at it.
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