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The Browns are reportedly "No. 1" on Troy Williamson's list of desired destinations.
He is close with Braylon Edwards. Cleveland could use some speed, but we think his agent is wildly inflating the market for Williamson. He has been a massive disappoint that couldn't crack a receiver desperate team. We doubt teams will give up much for Williamson or guarantee him a starting job. Williamson also has a no-trade clause, so he'll have say in where he goes.
Source: Dayton Daily News
Related: Browns

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No Thanks. He drops more balls than Dropcutt!

I would take him IF AND ONLY IF the price was right. It would depend on what the Vikes want for him. I'd give up no better than a 5th round pick along with a backup player of some sort (maybe sign and trade Carter lol).

IMHO...WR is not a Critical area of need and as has been mentioned the $ to Talent ratio would be to great ....

IF he accepts a league minimum contract with incentives, I would consider it.

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I would still say "NO", "NO","NO".

I'd rather go after Stallworth, IMO.

Joe is def not the #4 reciever for us...he should be in the slot..he would be sweet there...we do need another good route runner who has some speed at #2....

Stallworth would b freakin sweet..but i think he would cost too much

Yeah, when your nickname is Troy "The Bust" Williamson, I will pass, thank you

I think this off-season, training camp, and pre-season will be Wilsons last chance here. I expect that if he shows up and plays to his potential he will be th #3 WR and will replace JJ, but if he is the Wilson of last year he will be the #5 WR and gone next year.

Not worth it, Williamson is horrible.

I didn't like the pick when the Vikes made it. This guy is all hype and will never live up to it.

I would much rather sign Bryant Johnson for Arizona. He is a much better WR than most think. He is just overshadowed by two great WR's.

Here's another article. Also says the Browns are looking to trade up...

Browns update: Trade winds blowin’ at Combine

By Chick Ludwig | Friday, February 22, 2008, 03:55 PM

The Cleveland Browns are looking to trade up —- again.

Head coach Romeo Crennel said so on Friday at the NFL Scouting Combine.

After losing their 2008 first-round draft pick in a trade with Dallas that allowed them to select QB Brady Quinn last season, the Browns want to climb up the draft board again, even though it may be in a less-dramatic fashion.

After all, desperate times —- like drafting in the No. 53 position in the second round —- call for desperate measures. And the Browns need help on the defensive line, at outside linebacker and in the secondary. And they absolutely must add another receiver to complement the incomparable Braylon Edwards.

“We’ll tweak the defense, retool it and coach it better,” Crennel said. “Expectations are higher this year, and we welcome them.”

Remember this name: WR Troy Williamson.

The Minnesota Vikings have given Williamson the go-ahead to seek a trade, and the Browns are No. 1 on Williamson’s list because he’s tight with Edwards.

The Combine media room was a circus Friday afternoon with Crennel anchored at one podium and Arkansas tailback Darren McFadden at a podium at the opposite end of the room.

Crennel said the Browns were happy with Quinn’s development and progress as a rookie in 2007 behind Derek Anderson, and said the scenario could repeat itself in 2008.

Crennel pointed to Philip Rivers and Steve McNair sitting multiple seasons early in their respective careers before they blossomed as starters.

He believes the same holds true for Quinn. Crennel said Quinn will become a great quarterback in the NFL and “for the Browns” at some point.

Crennel then introduced Jamal Lewis, who just signed a three-year contract extension.

Lewis credits his offseason workout regimen for his success.

Asked what will sustain him during the length of his contract, Lewis said: “Winning. With a few additions, we have a chance to be a championship team.”

email cludwig@daytondailynews.com

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/con...winds_blow.html

NEXT?...

Who???

Give him a shot, whoever the hell our WR coach is has seemed to do a good job (I'm drawing a blank on his name.) Williamson has speed, you can teach proper catching techniques.

Cant believe you'd say that Dawg in Dayton.

Big Joe is still one of the most reliable guys in the game. He's as clutch as it comes on 3rd down and is a role model to many of our recievers on the O side of the ball. How many balls do you think we can throw? we've got Winslow and Edwards as our two main targets. Joe is perfectly fine at what he does.

Williamson sounds good to me, but as someone said, price is a big deal. I would give a 5th or 6th for him.

One guy I do want is Bryant Johnson from Arizona. As someone said before, the guy's a good reciever on a team with two really good recievers. He runs good routes and catches the ball. He also has good size. Bryant Johnson could talk Joe's job on the other end of Braylon and let Joe move toward the slot.

Williamson is more of a tool to stretch defenses, someone that has to be accounted for going deep, epsecially when we have a strong armed QB like DA. I think Williamson could be somewhat successful with us. And remember, he left college as a junior............this is may be his 4th year in the NFL. He could come out ready to shine

But yeah, if we could get both at affordable prices, give them to us. Johnson being a bigger priority than Williamson, but you take what u can get.


Winslow Bodden: Wes Chandler is his name

He can want to be a Brown all he wants, but if the Browns want him back I'll puke.

Profootballtalk said it best: He's got the wrong combination of hands of stone and eyes of glass.

WE MUST PASS.

Hey, that rhymed.

Not to add fuel to fire, or to fan it...
But this prospect- the Browns should just ban it.
For we simply don't need
A guy blessed with speed
But is cursed with two hands made of granite.


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The Browns need to eye Jordy Nelson... SURE HANDS!!!

Way to mess up the rhyming theme, Bulldog.

Bad hands (lots of drops) fast, yet unable to make an impact on a WR hungry team...

League minimum contract if he wants to come to Cleveland like he says he'll take it.

The Browns WR's coach is none other than Wes Chandler..Chandler was a very good WR for the Saints and Chargers back in the 70's and 80's.
In Chandler's 1st year as WR's coach,look how much the Browns WR's improved over last year.
2 Pro Bowlers in KW2 and Braylon Edwards. 2-1000 WR's. When was the last time the Browns a 1,000 yard WR or TE before 2007? A legit 1,000 yards,not a fluke 1,000 yard season.
How many times did Anderson get bailed out of bad throws cause of Edwards and KW2's sure hands?
Coaching can make the difference between a 3rd tier WR and a Pro Bowler.
With that said,Williamson would be worth looking into. He'd be a upgrade over Carter and Wilson.
Sometimes a WR's maturity into the position doesn't happen overnight or even in a couple years.
Heres a corralation.........T.J Houshmandzedah of the Bengals struggled in his 1st few years with the Bengals. He was on the verge of being cut at one point. Well Hue Jackson became the WR's coach and all of a sudden T.J started to blossom into his own.It didn't hurt that Peter Warrick ended up on the IR and T.J stepped in..but my point is, a new coach makes all the difference in the world.
Yeah Troy was a 1st RD draft pick. He didn't light up the stats sheet in Minnesota.....but also look who his qb's were in Minnesota..that didn't help his cause. And with Peterson and Taylor in the backfield,its not like a WR in that offense is gonna get alot of chances to prove his worth.

Well I want to play for the Browns also. Maybe the Browns will pick Troy and I up. I can catch anything but Im slow as hell.

I have heard that Williamson has been to eye specialists the past year or two, because he had a major hand-eye problem the Vikes tried to have fixed... which is a huge problem when you're an NFL receiver. I have no link... just what I heard.

Thanks for the article...

Here is my take as a fan when it comes to the whispers of trading up... IF we were to do so, I really really feel that the player we jump up for HAS to be damned near a sure thing... I would HATE to see us trade up for a gamble on a "tweener" than a sure thing like a Dorsey/Long/McFadden...

Wimbley has been solid for us but just saying, when you grab that "tweener" and hope to get them to make the adjustment to fit into the 3-4, some thrive into it ala Sean Merrimen and some don't...

Moving into the top 10 would be rediculous but top 5 would cost us more than just 2009 1st and 2nd and this years 2nd...

I cringe to even think about it...

And to be honest, the Quinn smokescreens by the FO and HC are borderline commical... I truly do NOT see ANY team offering up a pick in the 1st for DA... His value is more as a 2nd rder and to be quite honest I would rather have him as our backup than getting rid of him for just a 2nd...

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Cant believe you'd say that Dawg in Dayton.

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My bad on the typo...#4 was to be #3...

Jurevicious is in fact an excellent SLOT Rcvr...No doubt about it...Love the dude...Problem is with him as your best shot at a 2 opposite Brey leaves alot on the field...That can be improved upon with a Bryant Johnson...

And if Wilson gets his head outta his ass this year we might just have a SUPERB CORE...His boneheadedness killed us when Joe went down this year...That's not part of the plan WILSON...

Signing Johnson MAJORLY improves our wide's...

Brey
Johnson
Jurevicious
Winslow

That's beyond solid...

I think the Braylon thing is just bologne... Williamson sees how our offensive is coming along, and more than that, we have a QB that threw for about 4000 yards, and if Anderson isn't here, we have another one that could do the same. He's trying to revive his career IMO. Braylon is just an extra plus.

I don't know about Wilson...something makes me think of Andre King.

Nah.............not Andre King.

King lacked some of the physical skills to be a very good receiver, but he practiced hard, played smart, and was had coachable.


Wilson has some good physical skills but is notorious for not practicing hard and not respecting his coaches.


DnD:

I think Joe would be good in the slot. He would be able to take advantage of physical mismatches. Nickel corners tend to be slighter guys and Joe would have an advantage there. Joe is also very good at running drag routes and crossing patterns.


I wouldn't invest heavily in a WR though. I think they aren't all that hard to find. Plus, I don't like Savage's history at identifying wide receivers. He's missed on quite a few of them over the years.


I hope he really concentrates on the defensive side of the ball.

NT
FS
DE
OLB

I would like to see us bring in DJ Hackett from the Seahags.....I think he would be a great complement to the other side of the field, and free up JJ and KW to work the slot and across the middle........any deal would have to be incentive laden due to his (somewhat) history of injuries, but sometimes ya gotta take a gamble and this one could pay big dividends.

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I think Joe would be good in the slot. He would be able to take advantage of physical mismatches. Nickel corners tend to be slighter guys and Joe would have an advantage there. Joe is also very good at running drag routes and crossing patterns.

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Without doubt...That's the missing piece for Chudzinski...

Jurevicious's size and sure hands are perfect for the 8 yard underneath stuff on 3rd and long...

With this OL coming back for a 2nd year together...This is the piece that could take this offense to another level...IF WE GET A LEGIT 2...

Bryant Johnson
DJ Hackett

Those r the 2 preferred...We may end up with Berrian tho...Hopefully NOT...

SHEP

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I think he would be a great complement to the other side of the field, and free up JJ and KW to work the slot and across the middle.

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Yep...BIG Dividends...

Haha. I might even be able to do my hair like him. I should try it.

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His eye is weaker then the other you're right. He had the surgery last offseason.