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Hehehehe..........Well, are we speaking metaphorically, or literally  Wait.....this is a family board, isn't it, hehe.
I allready got odds on the pigs flying out of yours. The REAL question is this: What color......will they be brown, or will they be green and gold? 
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ATHLETES FIRST SAYS DUNN ISN'T NEGOTIATING
In response to our item from Wednesday morning regarding speculation in league circles that suspended agent David Dunn is negotiating the potential contract extension with the Browns, Brian Murphy of Athletes First says that Dunn isn't violating the terms of his 18-month time out.
Murphy says that the discussions are being handled by Mark Humenik, Joby Branion, Justin Schulman, and Andrew Kessler.
"Dave's suspension is over this May and Athletes First looks forward to continuing to provide our clients the highest level of service without having to continuously hear other agents talk about Dave’s suspension," Murphy told us by e-mail.
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Yeah, that's true about the Oregon State coaches. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. Their philosophy was to stretch the field at all costs. They wanted to hit big plays in the passing game and open up running lanes. I saw a quote from their coach who actually admitted it.  Boneheaded.........to be sure, but it also gave me a different perspective on DA. I started watching closer and I actually saw improvement in terms of him checking down throughout the year. I remember how bad he was in that Oakland game. He got away w/it against the Bengals the previous week, but it bit him in the ass against Oakland. He began improving about 2 weeks later. I give most of the credit to Rip Shearer and Chud. They coached him up during the season. And believe me, it's hard to do that during the season. I think that is where that "he has a huge upside" comment gains its merit. And make no mistake, it is not a sure thing. But, it is out there. Toad, you probably know as well as I do that we both view this situation in a similar manner. And you also know as well as I do that we have had our differences in the past. It would be cool if we could keep it cool and learn from each other. I think we both have things we can teach one another. And learning is what it is all about.
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---Daman: Thanks for kinda defending me from that big, mean, Bad2theBone dog.
But dude, I was not insulting you. I quoted you. I thought you insulted Diam. And I was giving you a chance to explain your line of reasoning as to why the trade might happen. I wasn't mocking you. I wanted to hear your argument. Your explanation left a little to be desired. "It could happen, even though it probably won't." *L* Come on, man...........just fess up. You were wrong. It's not all that bad to admit.
I don't remember defending you, but if I did,, that's cool.. I must have agreed with you..
Regarding you not insulting me, I'll just take your word that wasn't your intent.
As for being wrong,, If, and it's a big if, you recognize that a sign and trade could happen, then you can't think I'm wrong... as long as it's possible,,, I'm right! By the way, I never believed it would happen (sign and trade that is)
As for insulting diam,, It wasn't my intention to insult him... But let's be honest, Diam has a way of being very condesending when anyone comments in the alternative... most time, I just let it go.. I consider the source and just drop it.. for whatever reason, I diidn't do that this time....
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Regarding you not insulting me, I'll just take your word that wasn't your intent.
Dude...........I quoted YOU insulting Diam.
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Just wanted to add a little piece of info I've heard twice now.
Savage already has a presser scheduled for tomorrow.
Even though he has not formally set a deadline for signing a contract, I believe he has given DA's agent a deadline. I heard Savage on the radio say that even if DA doesn't get signed by the start of free agency that he will tender him and continue to negotiate a new contract. I believe the presser is sometime around midday tomorrow. We should know one way or another by then. Savage probably did this to get DA to commit in plenty of time to know how much money he will have to work with and to get his ducks in a row before free agency begins.
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what's it matter if something like a 'sign and trade' is possible if there is no way in hell it would ever happen?? And this isn't just to you... but man... like 3 pages of arguing if it would be possible or not to do something that would never ever happen... 
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Ok, wait.
Has Savage gone on record as saying that it's off the table, because what you just said has nothing to do with the offer.
If Savage DOESN'T slap the tender on Anderson before the deadline, he becomes an UNRESTRICTED free agent, and we get nothing in return. That does NOT preclude us from keeping the offer on the table once Anderson is hit with the Tender.
So, unless we have a direct quote from Savage that says the offer will be removed once we hit Anderson with the Tender...............
Maybe others are reading it like you are, in which case that would explain the perceived paranoia. Read this:
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``We've made some progress,'' Savage said. ``There's nothing to report today, but we've got a week left until free agency begins. I know people are considering that to be a hard deadline, but in a lot of ways, it's almost a perforated deadline.''
``We can still put the tender on him and continue to talk if that's something they wanted to do,'' he said. ``Our preference is to get it done before the free-agency period begins, but at this point I'm not sure that's going to happen one way or the other.''
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So, since that article was dated just a few days ago, and Savage clearly says that while they want to sign him now, they can continue to negotiate while Anderson is under the tender, do you now understand that popping Anderson with the tender does NOT mean the offer is off the table?
Feel better?
It's possible that Savage has changed his tune in the past few days, but I find that to be an idiotic decision, and one that Savage isn't dumb enough to make.
your correct phil never said the deal would be off the table but he did say the cash value could go down with the signing of fa's
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As I see it there are two flaws in your logic toad: First: Quote:
To suggest that having Anderson and Quinn on the same team creates a situation where neither QB can operate, and therefore the very act of delaying a decision dooms the team to failure, is either one of two things: A method to forward your own desire for your choice of a QB in a forum of public debate, or a form of flawed logic that has failed to see the real and ultimate goal of the problem.
I'd say it's a 35/65 proposition whether QB competition makes each player better. Sometimes it can help both players in that it lights a fire under them to play to the best of their ability. Sometimes it can be a negative causing both players to press. The biggest negatives though is that it splits practice reps in the offseason impacting the performance of the offense as a whole. You also are bound to get mixed opinions from the players as to who the best QB is for many reasons which I'll gloss over for now. That can fracture a locker room.
Take Frye vs. Anderson.
1. Both players performed poorly in the preseason. If I recall they had a total of 1 TD between them.
2. Both players lamented the amount of snaps they were given impacting performance.
3. The controversy created the famed "coinflip" where Crennel showed real leadership over a preseason start.
4. The first game of the season was a debacle on many levels, one of which was the poor performance of the annointed winner of the QB competition.
Frye had to be traded to end the controversy. Afterward Anderson played quite well from time to time.
It is not argueable that the QB competition was a total failure. Yes, a QB controversy can be a bad thing.
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If we don't sign him and let him ride the tender, the only leverage we have left next year is the franchise tag, and I don't see a situation where we want to pay Anderson $12 million for one season.
The secondary benefit is that if we choose Quinn next year, Anderson is under a very reasonable contract and we can trade him for a player or draft compensation. We can't do that if he's a free agent or under the franchise tag.
Not true. Teams can trade a player that is franchised by reaching an agreement. Here's an excerpt from an ESPN article on Charles Woodson in 2005.
Translation: The Raiders apparently feel that Woodson will sign an offer sheet with another team which, as a franchise player, he has a right to do. Oakland could match the offer sheet and retain Woodson at the terms specified, or decline to match and receive a pair of first-round draft choices as compensation. Or the two teams could reach agreement on a trade for a package of draft picks and/or players.
In my opinion this is the best option for Cleveland. Tender Anderson with the RFA for 2.5M. Hope that he receives an offer. If so, hello draft picks. If not, see what you have in 08 with his performance at low compensation.
If he plays well, draw up a long term offer or franchise him. If he doesn't play well, then let him move on with his career.
2008: 2.5M
2009: 12M under the franchise tag
= 14.5M
Under the 3yr, 20M offer:
2008: Around 7M
2009: Around 7M
2010: Around 7M
That's a difference of about 1M total over 2008 and 2009.
Also you're on the hook for 7M in 2010 or a cap hit of the prorated signing bonus if you cut him.
I see no problem with franchising him in 09 if he improves his play. We can then trade Quinn for a pretty nice sum because of his friendly contract. Or we can trade Anderson from under the franchise tender and get a whale of a offer if he in fact does improve significantly.
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He's not going to sign... Three years from now who knows what will happen...
Three years from now he coulod also be making 500,000 a year with no guarentee, so don't be so sure that he will not sign. 
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your correct phil never said the deal would be off the table but he did say the cash value could go down with the signing of fa's
Flip, unless you've heard something from Phil in the past day, what you're referring to was prior to his latest contract offer. The quote I saw was essentially a ploy to try and get Dunn to take the deal. He didn't. Savage has since upped the offer. To go backwards at this point by stiff-arming Dunn doesn't make any sense.
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As I see it there are two flaws in your logic toad:
I'd say it's a 35/65 proposition whether QB competition makes each player better. Sometimes it can help both players in that it lights a fire under them to play to the best of their ability. Sometimes it can be a negative causing both players to press. The biggest negatives though is that it splits practice reps in the offseason impacting the performance of the offense as a whole. You also are bound to get mixed opinions from the players as to who the best QB is for many reasons which I'll gloss over for now. That can fracture a locker room.
Take Frye vs. Anderson.
1. Both players performed poorly in the preseason. If I recall they had a total of 1 TD between them.
2. Both players lamented the amount of snaps they were given impacting performance.
3. The controversy created the famed "coinflip" where Crennel showed real leadership over a preseason start.
4. The first game of the season was a debacle on many levels, one of which was the poor performance of the annointed winner of the QB competition.
Frye had to be traded to end the controversy. Afterward Anderson played quite well from time to time.
It is not argueable that the QB competition was a total failure. Yes, a QB controversy can be a bad thing.
I can see where you'd interpret what I wrote in one fashion, though I made a reference to distinguish between what you think I said, and what I actually said.
The situation between Frye and Anderson is different than Anderson versus Quinn. That was a situation where we had two unproven, long-shot QB's competing for a job. This situation is one semi-proven QB competing against a 1st round draft pick. While being a 1st round pick proves nothing, it does signify a QB who's a viable #1 option, and is acknowledged as such. Furthermore, Anderson has allready overcome the pressure of a QB battle by beating Frye. The pressure of being cut is greater than the pressure of fending off another QB when you've had a successful season.
Those are two very different scenarios.
Besides, let's call Frye what he was: A failure. The team didn't trade Frye because he'd lost the QB competition with Anderson. He was dumped because the FO was allready at the end of their rope with him. If he'd have done well, he'd have kept his job, but it's obvious that as soon as he showed he wasn't up to the task, they were prepared to yank him and be done with him. All we have to do is see that they invested a huge amount to acquire Quinn, which clearly said they had seen enough of Frye, the incumbent starter. In the organizations mind, they had two very iffy QB prospects vying for the job in Frye and Anderson, neither of which had shown enough in camps to warrant the starters gig. In this case, we have a guy who's coming of a pretty good season. He's competing against a 2nd year, 1st round pick that shows plenty of promise.
Again, two very different situations. I get your point. I just don't think you quite got mine
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If we don't sign him and let him ride the tender, the only leverage we have left next year is the franchise tag, and I don't see a situation where we want to pay Anderson $12 million for one season.
The secondary benefit is that if we choose Quinn next year, Anderson is under a very reasonable contract and we can trade him for a player or draft compensation. We can't do that if he's a free agent or under the franchise tag.
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Not true. Teams can trade a player that is franchised by reaching an agreement. Here's an excerpt from an ESPN article on Charles Woodson in 2005.
You've misinterpreted what I wrote. I'll explain......
If we've Tendered Anderson, and cannot sign him to a contract at all this season, and in fact cannot sign him to a contract before free agency is slated to begin one year from now, the only leverage we have is to slap one of the two levels of Franchise Tag onto Anderson. At that point, he can either play under the Tag (after he's signed it), he can sign a new deal with us, or we can trade him.
Nowhere did I say that we cannot trade Anderson. I think you just misread what I'd written, or my verbiage was ambiguous.
Edit: Ok, now that I reread it, I DID type that, and it was very unclear. Sorry about that My INTENT was to say that if Anderson is under a 3-year, team-friendly contract, we can trade him for a player or a pick. However, if he's under the Franchise tag, which would carry an estimated $12 million cap charge, we are less likely to get the same level of trade compensation. That's why I said we can't do it if he's a free agent or under the Franchise tag. Sorry about the confusion.
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take this for whats its worth... but on espn just now john clayton (the cryptkeeper) just said that anderson is getting the fealing that "more then one team might be interested in giving up a 1st and 3rd in RFA for him)
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BROWNS NOT SQUEEZING DEREK?
As the Cleveland Browns and quarterback Derek Anderson continue to work toward a multi-year deal, we're hearing that the team is not taking the position that the current offer of three years, $20 million will begin to shrink if Anderson tests the restricted free agency market.
If that's the case, there's no reason for Anderson to accept the deal before finding out whether another team might give him a longer-term offer with a greater per-year average.
With the Browns expected to use the highest possible RFA tender on Anderson, Cleveland would be entitled to a first-round pick and a third-round pick if they choose not to match any offer sheet signed by him. As we've recently pointed out, a team that might be inclined to use a first-round pick on an unproven quarterback reasonably should be willing to throw in a third-rounder in order to have a better crack at a proven commodity.
Teams that could be tempted to give up a one and a three for Anderson include (in our assessment) the Bears, the Lions, the Panthers, and the Buccaneers. The Ravens also have a compelling need at the position, but there's no way that they can give up anything of value in order to re-acquire the player whom they drafted, and later released.
The Falcons and the Chiefs might also be inclined to explore signing Anderson, but the picks they'd be giving up come too high in rounds one and three.
Case in point: The Browns are NOT stiff-arming Dunn, therefore waiting to see what happens once we slap Anderson with the Tender is smart business.
Things are moving along just as they should...........
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the way I see it is...
win win win win win
Anderson gets a long term deal win
Someone signs him and we don't match or We trade him for a first and 3rd win
Brady Quinn who we drafted in the first last year starts win
Savage stood his grounds in negotiating a contract and it shows other players not to play hardball win
No QB controversey loose the fans have nothing to talking about j/k win
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Savage already has a presser scheduled for tomorrow
This has been scheduled for awhile now...It's his Annual Pre-FA Chitty Chat with the Media...
4:00PM TODAY is the Tender Deadline...
With Clayton's lil' diddy...I bet Anderson DOES NOT SIGN...
I HOPE HE DOESN'T...
I'd let us Tender him and take a week or so to see what happens...If nuttin...THEN SIGN...
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I think something needs to be cleared up here... IF Anderson gets Tagged at a 1st & 3rd...WE STILL HOLD THE CARDS... If a team offers him a contract and we don't want to match it...This said team MUST give us a 1 and 3 IF we don't agree to take LESS... Read that again...If a team offers him a contract and we refuse to take just a 2nd for him...IF that contract is offered with NO COMPENSATION AGREED TO...They MUST give us the 1 & 3... Whatever team wants Anderson better be smart about it...Make damn sure the "Compensation" is agreed to prior to putting the "Offer" into the league office...Cause if they THINK we'll agree to a 2nd rounder and AFTER the "Offer" is submitted...It's ON...We can refuse the 2nd rounder AND refuse to "Match" that contract offer...And we walk right back into Round 1...And 3... An interested team better be diligent with this or get burned...
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Having a 1st and 3rd round pick would be nice.. better than nice... It's a toss up for me. Watching Derek Anderson's highlights make me want to keep him, but then there were games in the season where I just get a lil upset... one being that opening drive against the Patriots, which pretty much set the tempo of the game.
As someone else said, its a win win situation. We keep him, I'm kinda happy b/c our offense is use to him. If we don't, that means we can help our defense in the draft.
But again.. I don't think he will sign..
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Actually what the criptkeeper (*ROTFLMAO* ... CLASSIC ... ) said was .... it APPEARS that MAYBE one or possibly even two teams may have some interest in him and it looks like it is Schuabbesque in that a couple of 2nd rounders is where the interest is at ... and that may keep him from SIGNING FOR NOW ..... take it for what its worth ... the key thing to me is the COMPARISION TO SCHUABB ... he did not mention a 1st and 3rd but Schuab's name was actually mentioned and it looked like the interest in DA was the same ... the other key thing he said is that it MAY keep him from SIGNING FOR NOW ... not that it means anything .. just wanted to clear up what Clayton said ... no mention of a 1st and 3rd at least on this mornings SC ...  at the criptkeeper ... thats a good one ... Thanks Dawg ..
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Let me explain. I don't think the 3-year deal is disrespectful to DA. Savage made a huge investment in BQ and he can't give Quinn the impression that he has turned the team over to DA.
Thank-you. I brought that up a few days ago to which nobody made comment.
Savage has to walk a tight-rope, being aware of the numbers Quinn has in front of him or we turn him off and all of a sudden he and his agent start knocking on Savages door talking trade.
Savage isn't going to throw is best number on the table because DA can still say he will wait and go FA to see if there is something better.
Someone trumps him....great, we get some picks but then are stuck with a QB(Quinn) who has the distinct feeling he is our second choice.
I don't think we want that.
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So say someone offers us a couple second-rounders for DA. Do we take it? And if we do, do we then package those in a trade to move back into the first round on draft day?
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So say someone offers us a couple second-rounders for DA. Do we take it? And if we do, do we then package those in a trade to move back into the first round on draft day?
LOL...U got it man...
Problem is...Finding a team willing to go from the 20's downward...Basically putting themselves in the same position we'd be in...NO 1st...
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what's it matter if something like a 'sign and trade' is possible if there is no way in hell it would ever happen?? And this isn't just to you... but man... like 3 pages of arguing if it would be possible or not to do something that would never ever happen...
kind of silly isn't it-- Savage would be the laughing stock of the league if he signed DA to a contract that included a bonus (reported 10m.) and then traded him. Nothing like an instant cap hit. But what the hey, it could happen 
It just cracks me up that 3 pages were spent on this, so i'll add a post to continue it.........
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So say someone offers us a couple second-rounders for DA. Do we take it? And if we do, do we then package those in a trade to move back into the first round on draft day
I know it's taking a pretty big gamble but..........yes, for two 2nd round picks, I let Anderson go.
We just still need to much help on this team to be a "legit" contender, and not just on D as people keep harping on. Although D is more pressing.
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kind of silly isn't it-- Savage would be the laughing stock of the league if he signed DA to a contract that included a bonus (reported 10m.) and then traded him. Nothing like an instant cap hit. But what the hey, it could happen
It just cracks me up that 3 pages were spent on this, so i'll add a post to continue it.........
This is STUPID people... I only ever said that it could happen,, NOT that it WOULD happen...
It's time to lay off already!
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So say someone offers us a couple second-rounders for DA. Do we take it? And if we do, do we then package those in a trade to move back into the first round on draft day
I know it's taking a pretty big gamble but..........yes, for two 2nd round picks, I let Anderson go.
We just still need to much help on this team to be a "legit" contender, and not just on D as people keep harping on. Although D is more pressing.
The thing is, the only teams with two second rounders are Atlanta and Miami. My guess is, they would draft a QB before they would trade away their two picks (given how much help they need).
I would probably trade DA for either set of picks as they're all in the top of the second round but after watching this all play out, I just don't think the value is there.
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Nas: A team could give us their second round pick for '08 and '09. Still the same value, and we could still package those to move up in this year's draft, I would think.
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Yea, I know. realistically the only one fo those two that I could possibley see it happening with is Atlanta as they need a QB worse than Miami. Remember that Miami spent a 2nd rounder on Beck last yr., I just don't see them giving up on him yet.
I don't think Anderson goes anywhere, as I don't think Phil let's Anderson go for anything less than a 1st and 3rd, MAYBE two second rounders, but, as you said, only Atlanta and Miami have those.
And before anyone starts jumping on me for wanting to trade Anderson, let me state my stance.
I DO want to trade him, but ONLY for a 1st and 3rd, or two 2nd rounders, or a 1st and SURE FIRE defensive front 7 starter.
And I just don't see any of those circumstances occuring. With that, I would not be upset at all with having Anderson back in camp to battle it out with Quinn. And I do realize that trading him for anything is taking a big risk. It just seems I may be one of the few on here that thinks we need more than just defensive front 7 help to be a legit, CONSISTANT, play-off and SB contender.
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Nas: A team could give us their second round pick for '08 and '09. Still the same value, and we could still package those to move up in this year's draft, I would think.
Yeah, I know but I don't really value future picks unless they're #1's. The only reason I would consider a package from Atlanta or Miami is because one of the picks from either team would be in the top 40 selections this year.
Also, (in that scenario) If we saw a player fall at the end of the 1st, we would have a high enough set of picks to then turn around and trade those to get back in to the 1st without much trouble.
If we're going to accept future picks, I would rather takes Miami or Atlanta's #1(or someone elses) next year and pass on the two second rounders this year.
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I will answer that after we know the answer around 4:00 today ... no sense specualting on sumptin that may not occur ... I will say this ..
if someone offered me a 1st I;d be all OVER IT .. no need for the 3rd ... no need for nuttin else ... HE'D BE GONE ...
I would also take a top 1- 15 in the 2nd for him .. IN A HEARTBEAT ... he'd be gone .. my thinking here would be if someone does slip into the late teens/ early 20's I could jump up and grab him ....
but like I said no sense speculating on what it would take until we know what actually happens ...
PS. i would be STUNNED and THRILLED if anyone offers us two 2nds for him ... my GUESS is that DA's team of agents put that in Clayton's ear to get more out of Opie ... feeble attempt but at this point .. what in the hell do they have to lose ..
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This is STUPID people... I only ever said that it could happen,, NOT that it WOULD happen...
It's time to lay off already!
but it COULD HAPPEN .. actually believing that it COULD HAPPEN is what's TRUELY STUPID ...
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The single biggest thing helping us is that both this year's and (so far) next year's QB crop in the Draft is pitiful.
Add in that, other than DA, Rex Grossman and David Carr are the best QB's on the market and there actually *may* be some real interest among those few teams desperate for a QB.
The big question is do they think DA is going to be better for them than David Carr or Rex Grossman... or at least better by a margin large enough to warrant giving up the picks required?
It is going to be interesting watching it play out.... and we'll know the first real part of it in just under 6 hours.
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I agree with your point on smoke.....it isn't always put out by teams. Clayton gets his tips from both side of the table.
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Grossman re-signed with the Bears for one year. so he's off the market...
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Uhhh, I would put Todd Collins, Billy Volek, and even Daunte Culpepper up there ahead of David Carr as far as the best FA QBs available. By the way, what is scheduled to happen at 4:00 today? I must have missed something.
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Uhhh, I would put Todd Collins, Billy Volek, and even Daunte Culpepper up there ahead of David Carr as far as the best FA QBs available. By the way, what is scheduled to happen at 4:00 today? I must have missed something.
4 PM is the deadline to tender RFA's.
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Oh, thanks. Sorry I was completely out of the loop for about a month until yesterday. When it comes to babies, there is no off-season.
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Well, hopefully I'll hear something before I leave for work, but I have a feeling we won't know anything until the last minute.
Sounds like at this point (if rumors are true) that we might be slapping him with the tender.
Either way, it's win-win for us.
We get some draft picks, eliminate a QB controversey and start Quinn who looks to be the guy, or we end up with 2 starting QBs. Either way, we're in good shape. We have to remember, amist all of this arguing and opinions, this situation is a good thing for the Browns.
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http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/02/cleveland_browns_officially_te.htmlThe Browns have tendered quarterback Derek Anderson the high offer of $2.562 million as a restricted free agent, general manager Phil Savage said today. The Browns still hope that Anderson accepts their three-year offer before he becomes available to other teams at 12:01 this morning. With the tender in place, if a team signs Anderson they'd have to give the Browns a first- and third-round draft pick as compensation. Savage said he'd like to know before midnight if Anderson's salary -- believed to be about $20 million over three years with $10 million guaranteed contract -- will be on the books or not so the Browns know how much they have to spend in free agency. Savage said Anderson has earned the right to test the market because of his performance last season and that if he chooses to go elsewhere, so be it. Savage said he has also told Anderson's agents that he wouldn't accept less than a No. 1 and No. 3 pick, "because we value the player." The Browns have also tendered Daven Holly the second-round level, meaning he'll be paid about $1.4 million if he doesn't sign with another team. If he does, the team would owe the Browns a second-round pick.
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Awesome! Now at least I won't have to be at work worrying about what was going on. I'll have to sneak online later in the night when things (hopefully) slow down.
DA still can accept the 3 year deal, so things can change. At least we're getting closer to having an answer.
I'll be home right at midnight tonight. I'll be changing, grabbing a drink, take my laptop and see what Savage is cookin'!
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I think the fact that Phil is tendering him now means a deal isn't imminent. If we keep DA, it's going to be after he explores the market. Sound good to me.
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