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I found this interesting. What do you guys think would be a replacement for a prison term for minor crimes and minor drug offenses (besides the obvious of rehab for drug crimes),,,,

Report Says 1 In 100 Americans Behind Bars
Tougher Sentences Cited


For the first time in history, more than one in every 100 adults in America is in jail or prison, according to a new report released Thursday.

The report by the Pew Center on the States’ Public Safety Performance Project said 2,319,258 adults were held in American prisons or jails at the beginning of 2008, which is one out of every 99.1 adults. That's more than any other country in the world.

States spent more than $49 billion on corrections, the report said, which is up from $11 billion 20 years before.

"For all the money spent on corrections today, there hasn't been a clear and convincing return for public safety," Adam Gelb, director of the Public Safety Performance Project said in a news release. "More and more states are beginning to rethink their reliance on prisons for lower-level offenders and finding strategies that are tough on crime without being so tough on taxpayers."

According to the report, the prison population rose by more than 25,000 inmates in 2007, with 36 states and the Federal Bureau of Prisons seeing population increases.

Among the seven states with the largest number of prisoners, three (Ohio, Florida and Georgia) increased in populations, while four (New York, Michigan, Texas and California) saw reductions.

Texas surpassed California as the nation's prison leader after a decline in both states' inmate populations, the report said, and Kentucky had the largest percentage increase at 12 percent.

One in 30 men between the ages of 20 and 34 is behind bars, according to recent U.S. Department of Justice data, which also shows that men are about 13 times more likely to be incarcerated than females. However, the data shows, the female population is expanding at a faster pace.

The Pew Center report noted that prison growth and higher imprisonment rates do not reflect a parallel increase in crime or a corresponding increase in the nation's overall population.

Instead, it said, tougher sentencing measures, such as the three-strikes law, are leading to longer prison stays.

"States are paying a high cost for corrections -- one that may not be buying them as much in public safety as it should," Susan K. Urahn, managing director of the Pew Center on the States, said in a news release. "There are other choices. Some state policy makers are experimenting with a range of community punishments that are as effective as incarceration in protecting public safety and allow states to put the brakes on prison growth."

The report said the United States leads the world in incarcerations, far ahead of more populous China with 1.5 million people behind bars.

Distributed by Internet Broadcasting.


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ive spent alot of money in bars and alot of money on lawyers.... but then again i can aforrd it so i like this system


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Good way to contribute to the economy I guess.


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Well we can go the Muslim way and start chopping the hands off of all the thieves....


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wonder how many of those are dimple drug possessions?

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One out of 100...hmmmm. To tell you the truth, I know a lot of people, and none have done nothing more than maybe a few hours in the drunk tank. Guess everyone is different in whom they surround themselves with.

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Well for the low level, non-threat criminals, we could put them to work picking tomatoes, for punishment, and ship all the illegals back to their homeland. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.


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And then we cut their hands off?????


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Well for the low level, non-threat criminals, we could put them to work picking tomatoes, for punishment, and ship all the illegals back to their homeland. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.




Because thats cruel and unusual punishment. I still think it's a good idea though


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Legalize all drugs including heroin, meth, and crack/cocaine.

Eliminate the criminal element in drugs and also slow down the criminal activity intended to purchase expensive street drugs.


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except in cincinnati, where 1 in 4 bengals is behind bars, and 1 in 5 bengal fans is behind bars

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Legalize all drugs including heroin, meth, and crack/cocaine.

Eliminate the criminal element in drugs and also slow down the criminal activity intended to purchase expensive street drugs.




Thats what I've been saying for years----drugs can still be regulated---but by health care professionals---not police officers. People really need to start to understand that the wr on drugs has not worked and will NEVER work. Its a huge waste of time and money.


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So, if you try to stop something bad, and you don't have 100% success, you're supposed to just cave in and make it legal?

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1st off-----a lot like guns, drugs aren't necessarily bad---its the misuse of the drugs and guns that is bad.

Prescribe recreational drugs through legitimate pharmacies so that the amounts of drugs are controlled as will be addictions, overdoses, and many of the problems associated with drug use.

Or else you can continue wasting billions of dollars on the drug war---a war that doesn't even address the problem. The drug war is an offensive that parallels the ideas of banning guns.


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1st off-----a lot like guns, drugs aren't necessarily bad---its the misuse of the drugs and guns that is bad.




Exactly. Guns don't kill people. Drugs don't kill people. We don't have a gun problem, or a drug problem. It's a social problem.

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We should just use the guns to kill the drug addicts and solve everything.


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So, if you try to stop something bad, and you don't have 100% success, you're supposed to just cave in and make it legal?



no, but if you dont even have 10% success, id call it a monumental failure and a waste of tax dollars....that could ultimately be used very wisely elsewhere...ie healthcare.

this war on drugs hasn't made it any more difficult to obtain anything one would want to obtain....much like gun laws haven't made it anymore difficult for a would-be psychopath to obtain guns for his next planned killing spree.

if you dont mind the gov't wasting your money...that fine. but i, for one, have a huge problem with it.

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if you dont mind the gov't wasting your money...that fine.




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