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I don't know why so many people are making a big deal out of this. He lost his job in Pittsburgh because they drafted two guys last year whom they wish to bring along. He is still very capable and will help give us options considering all we have is a very old McGinest and an oft-injured Antwan Peek. Also, he fits the 3-4 and is from a division rival. Can't see why signing him would be a bad thing. It's not like we're gonna give up a ton of money or draft picks for him. I say sign him.
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j/c Here's something, not Haggans related. Anybody know anything about this guy . . . ? http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nflBrowns | Team to meet with B. Sapp Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:57:46 -0700 Mike Reiss, of The Boston Globe, reports the Cleveland Browns will meet with free-agent CB Benny Sapp (Chiefs) Wednesday, March 19.
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He's more of a special teams guy. He's only a 4th or 5th CB.
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Here you go... Position Cornerback Height 5-9 Weight 190 Years Experience 5 Birthdate 1/20/1981 Hometown Ft. Lauderdale, FL College Northern Iowa Current status Active Games Started 6 Games Played 56 Pro Career Competitive young cornerback enters his fourth season with Kansas City … Appeared poised for a breakout season in 2006, but had his campaign curtailed by a pair of injuries … Missed five games with a knee injury and was inactive for the club’s postseason contest with a hamstring ailment … Is fully recovered from those maladies and is expected to compete for increased playing time after serving as a nickel back during his first three campaigns … Should only improve under the direction of Chiefs defensive backs coach David Gibbs … Was one of the more pleasant surprises on the team exiting training camp in 2004 … Entered the NFL as a rookie free agent with the Chiefs in 2004 and earned a spot as the club’s nickel corner by the season’s end … Confident performer who believes in his ability to defend receivers of any stature … Transfers that fearlessness over to special teams, frequently fighting through double teams on the team’s punt coverage unit … Also has the ability to return punts and kickoffs if called upon … Has played in 42 games (four starts), recording 71 tackles (49 solo), 2.5 sacks (-15.0 yards), one interception, two forced fumbles, nine passes defensed and four QB pressures … Also owns 29 special teams tackles and one kickoff return for 21 yards. Transactions: Signed a restricted free agent tender with Kansas City (4/3/07) ... Signed a one-year exclusive rights tender with Kansas City (4/21/06) ... Signed a two-year contract as a rookie free agent with Kansas City (4/27/04). 2006 Played in 11 games on special teams and eight contests on defense … Was inactive for five contests … Totaled 11 tackles (10 solo) with one for loss and 10 special teams stops … Had one kickoff return for 21 yards … Tallied a tackle and two special teams stops vs. Cincinnati (9/10) ... Recorded two tackles and one special teams stop vs. San Francisco (10/1) ... Was inactive at Arizona (10/8), at Pittsburgh (10/15), vs. San Diego (10/22), at Seattle (10/29) and at St. Louis (11/5) with a knee injury suffered vs. San Francisco (10/1) ... Posted two special teams tackles vs. Oakland (11/19) ... Recorded one tackle and three special teams stops vs. Denver (11/23) ... Contributed two tackles with one behind the line at San Diego (12/17) ... Amassed three tackles, one special teams stop and returned one kickoff for 21 yards at Oakland (12/23) ... Left the game with a hamstring injury vs. Jacksonville (12/31) ... Was inactive with a hamstring injury in an AFC Wild Card Game at Indianapolis (1/6/07). 2005 Appeared in 16 games on special teams and 15 games (three starts) on defense … Totaled a career-high 45 tackles (30 solo), including two behind the line, 2.5 sacks (-15.0 yards), three QB pressures, six passes defensed and one forced fumble … Had six special teams tackles … Produced three tackles, a QB pressure and a sack and strip of Kerry Collins to go with two special teams tackles at Oakland (9/18) ... Started at CB when the club opened in the nickel vs. Philadelphia (10/2) ... Collected three tackles, half of a sack of Gus Frerotte, a pass defensed and one special teams stop at Miami (10/21) ... Registered five tackles and a pass defensed vs. Oakland (11/6) ... Tallied a career-high 10 tackles (seven solo) and a pass defensed when he started in the nickel package at Houston (11/20) ... Compiled five tackles, a pass defensed, one QB pressure and a special teams stop vs. New England (11/27) ... Had four tackles and one special teams stop in a starting role at Dallas (12/11) ... Collected six tackles, a sack of Jon Kitna and one pass defensed vs. Cincinnati (1/1/06). 2004 Played in 15 games (one start) and was inactive for one contest … Had 15 tackles (nine solo), including one behind the line, an INT, one forced fumble, three passes defensed and a QB pressure … Also had 13 special teams tackles … Saw action in his first NFL game as a reserve defensive back vs. Carolina (9/19) ... Recorded two special teams tackles and downed a punt at the two-yard line vs. Houston (9/26) ... Started his first NFL game when the club opened in its dime package at Jacksonville (10/17), posting two tackles and downing a punt at the two-yard line … Amassed three tackles and a special teams stop vs. New England (11/22) ... Recorded two tackles, two passes defensed and a special teams stop vs. Denver (12/19) ... Posted his first pro INT off Kerry Collins, while adding three tackles and two special teams stops vs. Oakland (12/25) ... Compiled three tackles and forced a RB Michael Turner fumble at San Diego (1/2/05). College Bio Appeared in 24 games (15 starts) for Northern Iowa during his final two collegiate seasons … Racked up 78 tackles, six INTs (143 yards), four forced fumbles and 29 passes defensed … Played in all 13 games (five starts) as a senior in 2003 … Produced 48 tackles (38 solo) with two INTs and 18 passes defensed … Forced two fumbles and had a fumble recovery, earning first-team All-Gateway honors … Also caught seven passes for 147 yards with two TDs … Saw duty in all 11 games (10 starts) his junior campaign in 2002, registering 39 tackles (30 solo), a team-high 11 passes defensed and four INTs … Also forced two fumbles and returned three punts for 18 yards (6.0 avg.) ... Named to the Gateway Conference’s All-Newcomer Team … Began his career at Iowa where he played in 24 games (20 starts), registering 104 tackles (73 solo) and three INTs in two seasons … Started all 12 games in 2001 as a sophomore, producing 49 tackles (36 solo) and three INTs … Saw action in 12 games (eight starts) as a freshman in 2000, totaling 55 tackles (37 solo) ... Majored in Sociology at Northern Iowa. Personal Bio • First-team All-Broward County and honorable mention all-state as a prep at Boyd Anderson High School in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. • Intercepted 12 passes, returning two for TDs. • Also lettered in wrestling, volleyball and track. • Served as an intern with the Legacy Financial Group during the 2007 off-season. • Full name: Benjamin Lee Sapp. • Single, with a son Benny III (7) and a daughter Brianna (2). • Resides in Overland Park, Kansas. kc chiefs website
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Benny's a solid ST and Nickel/Dime DB. In your heavy sits, he can come in and be a thumper too.
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I like this little blurb.
Confident performer who believes in his ability to defend receivers of any stature … Transfers that fearlessness over to special teams, frequently fighting through double teams on the team’s punt coverage unit …
We all know how Phil covets those Special Teams guys... Sorensen, Adams, Friedman, Dinkins, Cribbs... And he would battle Holly and Kenny Wright for the nickel slot. This could be a good signing.
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Most of the stiller fans I know (I'm totally surrounded by them) are not really upset about his leaving. The say his pass rush skills are no where near where they used to be.
I really don't have a solid opinion on Haggans being a Brown. We need some help there, just not sure he's the answer. 
And that is exactly why I don't want him... We already have both Peek AND McGinnest... why do we need another guy who is past his prime?
A few guys said he would help with the run, well McGinnest does too... and Peek helps with the pass rush.
I say go get ur OLB in the draft, and develop them along the way. It's already hard enough as it is to share time opposite of Wimbley. We got WIlliams in the fourth round, and he has contributed more than his share, so i'm pretty confident that there will be a solid outside linebacker there in the 4th.
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If you actually read my post I think you would see I was hardly making a "Big Deal" out of this.
My apologies if I don;t fall in line with your opinion. sheesh
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I apologize Huckleberry. I should have noted that my post was not in response to you. I was just clickin' man. I'm sorry. 
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McGinnest is 37 years old..he's almost done..he'd be valuable as a assistant coach..
Haggans is 31...and would replace him as a starter..
No fourth rounder is going to come in and start unless he's a total stud and SMART..
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No fourth rounder is going to come in and start unless he's a total stud and SMART..
Haggans was a 5th rounder... so was Andra Davis  
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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And? Haggans isn't a rookie is he?  Davis days as a starter are numbered... As I said no 4th rounder will come in and start unless he's a stud ..  Any rookie will be rotated in against McGinest and Davis.
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What if there are no stud OLBs left at round four? Or what if Phil decides to take the BPA and he's a running back or tight end or .....
Like Huck I'm not certain Haggans would be the answer as a starter or even as a back-up for that matter. But maybe he could replace Thompson on the roster or is he not even that good? Phil has slowed down on FA signings for a reason. Maybe none impress him as a significant upgrade over who is currently on the roster or what may be available in the draft or throughout the rest of the off-season. We are all just speculating at this point anyway. And for the most part what we are speculating on are back-ups .
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Kerry Rhodes started as a rookie and he was a fourth rounder :-)
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But not here..just to give you hell back 
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ok, what about that Leon Williams kid
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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He didn't start..he was worked in the lineup..and played when Davis went down..even though I'm playing with U guys , usually fouth round draft picks are projects..they have to be worked in unless the vet in that spot is crap..
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LOL well that happens when you go through two bad regimes, then a guy who can't draft seconday talent!
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No fourth rounder is going to come in and start unless he's a total stud and SMART..
I don't expect a 4th rounder to start.. I expect a Peek/ McGinnest rotation to start games off... that 4th rounder can be depth, just as Williams was, and eventually get more and more time on the field.
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Maybe if they'd check in here , they'd get a tip on DB's to draft
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A few guys said he would help with the run, well McGinnest does too... and Peek helps with the pass rush.
THINK for once man...
How old is McGinest???...The dude needed to retire 2 years ago...PLEASE....
You're replacing a 36 year old LB...Who is SLOWER THAN HELL...With a 31 year old who has experience at OLB in a 3-4...
Compare it;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
McGinest is the BEST run stopping LB on this team...Check...
He's also 36 years old...
Haggans would IMMEDIATELY become the BEST run stopping OLB on this team...
He's 31 years old...
Is this rocket-science???
STOP thinking an OLB in a 3-4 needs to be some STUD for 3 downs...
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...and everything else they need to do including family matters,financial advice, how to vote , sex, cuisine etc. 
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Prediction #3: the day Willie is gone is the day there is a turning point in the fortunes of the LB corp.
Prediction #2: the day Ted and Roye are gone is the day there is a turning point in the fortunes of the DL.
Prediction #1: the day Andruzzi is gone is the day there is a turning point in the fortunes of the OL.
Free Willie..........
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Prediction #3: the day Willie is gone is the day there is a turning point in the fortunes of the LB corp.
Prediction #2: the day Ted and Roye are gone is the day there is a turning point in the fortunes of the DL.
Prediction #1: the day Andruzzi is gone is the day there is a turning point in the fortunes of the OL.
Free Willie..........
#0...The day Bodden is a 3 is the day the Corners come alive...
#00...The day Davis is GONE is the day the ILB's come alive...
I never understood this LOVE for some of these POS guys on this team...
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let's not compare Dra with Earl, too pretty to tackle, Little.
Andra isn't as bad as people make him out to be. And whoever is comparing willie with haggans, willie at 31 was still a star. Haggans never has been a star. So yeah, Willie's 37 might be as good as this Haggans guy's 31. There's a reason nobody has contacted him. I'm definitely not sold yet at all.
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let's not compare Dra with Earl, too pretty to tackle, Little.
Andra isn't as bad as people make him out to be. And whoever is comparing willie with haggans, willie at 31 was still a star. Haggans never has been a star. So yeah, Willie's 37 might be as good as this Haggans guy's 31. There's a reason nobody has contacted him. I'm definitely not sold yet at all.
Take a past look at Free Agency in the 1st week...
Who gets signed???...How much bucks???
Savage is playing this PERFECTLY...
2nd tier FA...U WAIT...
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willie at 31 was still a star. Haggans never has been a star.
LOL...That must be why he hasn't signed yet... 
Have u ever heard of something called DEPTH?????
That thinking just blows me away...
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A few guys said he would help with the run, well McGinnest does too... and Peek helps with the pass rush.
THINK for once man...
How old is McGinest???...The dude needed to retire 2 years ago...PLEASE....
You're replacing a 36 year old LB...Who is SLOWER THAN HELL...With a 31 year old who has experience at OLB in a 3-4...
Compare it;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
McGinest is the BEST run stopping LB on this team...Check...
He's also 36 years old...
Haggans would IMMEDIATELY become the BEST run stopping OLB on this team...
He's 31 years old...
Is this rocket-science???
STOP thinking an OLB in a 3-4 needs to be some STUD for 3 downs...
1) Chill out...
2) Get a nice cold cup of apple juice...
3) Don't ever address me like that again...
You said it... He's 31!!!!! People on here are saying Jamal Lewis is TOO old at 28, yet people want to bring this old guy in and repeat what we did with McGinnest. Why? What's the point?
McGinnest has/had natural talent. Everyone knows that. Haggans only did well b/c of scheme, and ALL of the defensive talent that Pitt. has. Compare that!
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Have u ever heard of something called DEPTH?????
That thinking just blows me away...
Dayton, don't tell me anything about "depth" when in your post before you call for Andra Davis' head. So you want "depth" through a 31 year old LB, but at the same time cut a 29 year old LB who hasn't yet had talent in front of him yet still been a consistant 100 tackle guy. Thats not adding "depth" at the LB spot, that's losing it.
I have mixed emotions about Haggans, as I believe he would be a decent addition to this team, but only for a short time period. Maybe one of the reasons he is not yet signed is due to his asking price? In the end, I believe Savage will make the right decision, whatever that may be.
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U just don't get it chief...
And I WILL address u any way I feel necessary...Grow some...
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To be fair...to compare Jamal Lewis and Clark Haggans is completely different. Haggans is a LB while Jamal Lewis is a RB. Not only is Lewis a running back, but a power runner, ones who don't last long in the league. Lewis is old by Power RB standards. Haggans is on the back end of his prime, maybe a year past, but still has some productive years left in his body.
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I'm not taking sides in this arguement, but do want to point out some (not-so)obvious things here.
Haggans isn't asking for too much money. That would be a convenient excuse as to why he hasn't been signed yet. The bottom line with him is that the league understands he's a role-player, not a star, and as such, he isn't a priority in the first couple of weeks of the FA period.
Next, Haggans wouldn't be brought in as a solution to the OLB position for the long-haul. He's considered a stop-gap player because we've run out of opions. In that regard, he's no different than McGinnest, Peek, and even Davis, who wouldn't be here if we had an alternative. We'd have loved Pace, but the Jets BADLY overpaid for him. Same goes for laboy. So, we're stuck cobbling together unwanted pieces in the hopes that they can survive the short-term while dualy acting as a bridge until we can get some long-term players in here.
Davis, McGinnest, Peek, Roye, 'Druzzi, Coleman, Washington......the list goes on. Some of those pieces have been replaced, while some still need replacing. Unfortunately, it can't all be done in one year. So, in the interim, McGinnest is here until we can find a replacement. Washington has given way to Rogers, Roye to Smith, and the cycle continues. This is the painful part of being patient.
Haggans would be brought in to compete with other marginal pieces. Nothing more, nothing less. As such, I'd welcome him.
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Let's realize ,that for the most part, we are discussing friggin back-ups! Until about 3 weeks ago we were pissing and moaning about starters. This is no longer the case. IMO if Phil gets us a handful of players we will have a very DEEP team for the first time in, well I don't know when? JMO
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I don't think Haggans will be a back-up. I think he would start. He would rotate, but I bet he gets the majority of snaps.
Btw.........I have a relative who knows his football and roots for the Steelers. He's really mad that the Browns might get Haggans. He says he's a stud. I guess it depends on who you talk to.
I'm still hoping he is the OLB we sign. I've thought that from day one. I prefer him over LeBoy, Blackstock, and Mitchell.
Sign him, Phi.
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Why does it seem that everyone is writing off the value of Peek.. I don't think you can use last year as a measuring stick. From about the 3rd game on, he was banged up.
I'd like to see what he can do healthy,,.
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I agree. I think Peek will be OK, but still won't hurt to sign someone to take Thompson's place.
In the 3-4 you can never have too many good linebackers.
I am sure Phil will do what he thinks is best for the team.
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No one is writing off Peek, he'd prolly be a situational pass rusher on 3rd downs instead of Haggans.
you had a good run Hank.
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I'm writing off Peek because he's purely a pass rusher. He is a major liability against the run and it isn't because of his injury. It's because he's an undisciplined player who is often out of position. Willie is slow but he is in position. That is why he's the best run stuffer we have.
I think that Peek might be better at rushing the QB when he's healthy, but i doubt he will improve against the run much at all. That is why I'm counting him out.
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And that's really what Peek was supposed to be when we signed him.
McGinnest was the 2-down guy, Peek the pass-rush specialist. In that context, BOTH guys have been "written off." Haggans' role would be to take over Willie's 2-down responsibility, and be a rotational guy if Peek is hurt. That's assuming Peek is actually a better rusher than Haggans, which is yet to be determined.
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So he was here in town yesterday. Did he leave without a contract? I expected to see something by now if he signed. I saw that we had Benny Sapp in yesterday as well. I would be happy if we could get both of these guys.
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The Browns would like to be able to do certain things..one is have better containment and stops on the outside and inside..
As I said Haggans isn't the answer in terms of pressuring the QB BUT HE is good at run D..
Inside we need a real thumper..one who comes up and gets the hole filled ...
These FA's are not top tier guys and we're not in a draft position to get a instant starter.
Savage will take what he can get until he can fully address it.
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