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Quinn still wants to start for Browns

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/02/bc.fbn.browns.quinn.ap/index.html

CLEVELAND (AP) -- Browns quarterback Brady Quinn expects to compete for the starting job despite Derek Anderson's $24 million, three-year contract.

"My whole goal is preparing myself and getting ready to try to take over the starting job and lead this team," Quinn said Saturday during an appearance at an auto show.

Anderson agreed to his new deal Friday, a move that took him off the restricted free-agent market. The contract includes $14.5 million guaranteed.

General manager Phil Savage says Anderson is the clear starter entering training camp. Anderson threw 29 TD passes last season and led the Browns to 10 wins.

Quinn understands the situation and even applauded Anderson's signing, but doesn't plan on carrying a clipboard again. His mind-set is "just competing and try to take this team to the playoffs, something we weren't able to do last year."

The Browns traded their first-round pick in 2008 for the chance to draft Quinn No. 22 last April.

He looked good in preseason after holding out, then spent the final 15 weeks of the regular season as Anderson's backup and didn't throw a pass until the finale, when he went 3-for-8 for 45 yards.

Coach Romeo Crennel will open camp with Anderson the starter, but maintained competition breeds success.

"Both of those guys are going to compete," he said Saturday at team headquarters in Berea. "And then we'll see who gives us the best chance."

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Heh. Too bad for Brady. Ain't happenin.

Coach Romeo Crennel will open camp with Anderson the starter, but maintained competition breeds success.

"Both of those guys are going to compete," he said Saturday at team headquarters in Berea. "And then we'll see who gives us the best chance."


Like I've been saying, Crennel doesn't give a damn of who signed what contract.

You compete. You play better. You get the job. Simple as that.

How someone could think that if Brady outplays DA in camp and preseason and won't start is crazy. And vice versa.

As long as someone goes in and performs well, that's all I care about. Win me some games, baby. And get me to the playoffs.

Yeah, I like this. Everyone is so caught up in what Savage is doing now. And of course, the offseason is his time. But when camp starts, that is when Crennel takes over again. I fully expect the best QB to start opening day no matter what the contract numbers are.

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I laugh at that every time. Mostly because each time the commercial airs my buddies and I never fail to profess our undying man-crushes for Brady.

Just curious, did anyone watch the highlight where Quinn was on Fox and Friends and threw into the back of the truck. I thought it was pretty funny, the whole time I was thinking could Anderson do that too?

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Well, Quinn can earn the job, but he'll have to CLEARLY outplay Anderson......

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Agreed. Those that think there is going to be no competition aren't thinking clearly. It's ludicrous to even discuss it further, IMO.

But I will.

Did we (they) just sign DA to a starter's contract? Yes

Has Savage stated that DA will not be traded? Yes

Has Savage stated that DA will be the starter? Yes

Are we (they) okay money-wise if DA falters this season? Yes

All indications are just as has been laid out for us.......the job still belongs to DA, until proven otherwise. For that, we have to wait until August. We can argue on here about it all we want for March, April, May, June and July......but until August it is nothing more than

Browns Quinn has right mindset for the job
by By Mary Kay Cabot


You've got to love Brady Quinn's moxie. One day after Browns general manager Phil Savage all but guaranteed Derek Anderson the starting job in 2008 because of his fat, new contract, Quinn came out and basically said, 'not so fast.'

During a 3 1/2 minute press conference before an appearance at the Greater Cleveland Auto Show at the IX Center -- where hundreds of fans were lined up to have their picture taken with him and chanting "Brady! Brady!'' -- Quinn sent the message loud and clear that he has no intention of riding the bench again the season.

At least four or five times during the brief interview, he mentioned that he'd try to take over the starting job, lead the Browns in 2008 and take the team to the playoffs. It was exactly the kind of confidence you'd want to see in a franchise quarterback.

This is not a wide-eyed kid who will be intimidated by Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow and Donte Stallworth wanting the ball. He played on an enormous national stage at Notre Dame, under demanding former NFL assistant Charlie Weiss -- and he's got the thick skin to prove it.

He also has the assurance from coach Romeo Crennel that the best man will win the job in training camp. That's how Crennel operates. If you're better, you'll play -- regardless of your paycheck. Granted, Anderson has the nod heading in because of his experience, but Quinn is going to give him one heck of a run for his multi-millions.

In preparation for what he feels will be the starting job, Quinn has worked overtime this offseason with quarterback coach Rip Scherer and has spent a month at a training facility in Phoenix. Today, he heads to Stanford for the NFL's entrepreneurial symposium. Not only does he have the work ethic and the talent to be successful, he's got the brains too.

Anderson, who's now averaging about $8 million a year, might be the starter again in 2008, but Quinn will not go down without an epic battle.

Good. thats what we as fans wanna hear, now work hard and go EARN IT...


I DONT CARE WHO STARTS....I JUST WANNA WIN

No quarterback controversy? Quinn says he’s out to win Browns’ starting job … this year
Scott Petrak | The Chronicle-Telegram

CLEVELAND — He approached the throng waiting to have a picture taken with him — no autographs, please — and the screams and screeches immediately commenced. No, Brad Pitt didn’t pop into town Saturday for a stop at the Hummer display at the Cleveland Auto Show. It was just Brady Quinn, the Browns backup quarterback.

Wearing a warmup jacket and jeans, Quinn approached the line of fans — many wearing his No. 10 jersey — that snaked through the I-X Center. One fan couldn’t take it.
“Oh, my God, there he is,” she shouted.
“We love you, Brady,” another screamed.
Quinn may be No. 2 on the depth chart behind newly re-signed Derek Anderson, but he’s No. 1 in the fans’ hearts.
His plan is to be No. 1 on the field, too.

“My whole goal is preparing myself and getting ready to try to take over the starting job and lead this team,” he said. In a news conference that lasted less than 3½ minutes, Quinn said three times his goal for 2008 is to lead the Browns.
“I’m not going to sit there and play out some sort of controversy,” he said. “Right now I’m just trying to focus on everything that I’m doing to get myself better to lead the Browns next season.”

When Anderson agreed to a three-year, $24 million contract Friday, general manager Phil Savage stated the obvious: “I don’t think there’s going to be ‘open competition.’ We’ll go in with Derek as the lead horse.” Quinn understands the situation and even applauded Anderson’s signing — “It’s good for our team,” he said. “It puts us in a good position if anything were ever to happen.” — but doesn’t plan on carrying a clipboard. He said his mind-set is “just competing and try to take this team to the playoffs, something we weren’t able to do last year and it’s something I want to try to take over the starting job and lead for our team,” he said.
When the Browns traded their first-round pick in 2008 for the chance to move up and take Quinn No. 22 in 2007, he was deemed the future of the franchise. Quinn looked good in preseason after holding out, then spent the final 15 weeks of the regular season as Anderson’s backup and didn’t throw a pass until the finale, when he went 3-for-8 for 45 yards.

Coach Romeo Crennel will open camp with Anderson as the starter, but reiterated his stance that competition breeds success. “Both of those guys are going to compete and then we’ll see who gives us the best chance,” he said Saturday morning at Browns headquarters. “We’ve always done it that way and that’s what we’re going to do. “Both guys will make each other better. Both guys will help the Browns win and that’s what we want.”

Quinn was a four-year starter at Notre Dame, so standing on the sideline last year was an adjustment. He didn’t even want to think about doing it again this year.
“I’d rather address that when it would actually happen,” he said. “I don’t want to play out scenarios right now. There’s a lot of time left to get better and see how the situation unfolds.” “Brady is a competitor. He wants to play and we understand that,” Crennel said. “I think he’s a professional and being a professional, if he is with the Browns he will be a Brown.”
When Savage was contemplating Anderson leaving through restricted free agency, he said Quinn had benefited from a season of standing and watching.
“He probably became a little better passer,” Savage said Thursday. “He tweaked some of his mechanics. I feel like he’s an accurate thrower and throws the seam ball really well and some of the underneath things. He has all the key ingredients to be successful in the league.”

Quinn stands to lose out financially if he remains stuck behind Anderson. If Quinn doesn’t play 55 percent of the snaps in 2008 or 70 percent in 2009, he would lose out on $11 million of incentives.

From the reaction Saturday and throughout the week on chat rooms and talk radio, fans are anxious to see Quinn earn that money. “It means a ton,” Quinn said of the fans’ reaction. “I’m an Ohio guy, I know what it’s like to work for everything that you get. I know how it is. Nothing comes easy. “I’m excited to work hard, continue to prepare, compete and try to work for a starting job. It’s just amazing to see the type of support that you get from everyone from Ohio, Columbus, Cleveland, everywhere in Ohio.”

Contact Scott Petrak at 329-7253 or spetrak@chroniclet.com.

I just want the best player to win the job and play QB for the Cleveland Browns. It is a tad sickening to see people have these crushes on BQ as is mentioned here about the AutoShow.

He's a football player. If he's better than DA is in camp, then let him start. If not, let him sit/back-up or deal him for some picks or players that will assist us in our quest.

Pretty simple.....

The backup QB is always the most popular guy on the team ......

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As do I Shep, as do I. Though I have some concerns about DA with some of the things he did last season, but I do feel that he can get better. Here's what's working in DAs favor this off-season as opposed to last: He is the starter now. He gets all the reps with the first team and gets to prepare as the starter for the whole off-season. He also has his whole body of work from '07 to study from. He and Rip can sit down and go through all that crap and break it down. I mean, he really did do a pretty good job of adjusting on the fly last year. Over the course of the season, he learned how to check down and when to throw a ball away more often. He wasn't perfect, but he did improve. That will continue with the whole off-season to work with. I still question his touch and agility however. And I'm not sure if those are things that you can coach. But we'll see.

And he's got Quinn nipping at his heels. If DA isn't playing for the starting job here, he's playing for the starting job somewhere in case he were to get traded next off-season. So in short, I have concerns about DA but I don't think they are reason to freak out by any means. I've thought a lot about this over the crazy weekend, after coming to the realization that they'll both be in Browns uniforms in 2008.

My biggest thing with Quinn is that we've barely seen what he could do and we gave up a lot to get him. I know, potential means jack. But I just have a really strange feeling that he will be a really good NFL QB and I'd like to keep him around until we find out one way or the other.

This deadbate will surely go on for a long, long time.

The only thing that really bothers me about this is that when Savage was in Baltimore, they attached themselves to Kyle Boller and never let go, despite his repeated failures. Now, Savage brings DA with him, he does nothing his first year, lights it up for seven games last year, and flat lines for the remaining eight games of the season. Then DA doesn't except our first two offers, finds out nobody wants him, and we give him even more cash. In my opinion DA earned the right to be the incumbant, but I hope our organization doesn't proceed with blinders on and repeat the Boller fiasco of the Ravens. If DA plays bad, like he did at seasons end, then Brady should be given the oppurtunity to play.

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The only thing that really bothers me about this is that when Savage was in Baltimore, they attached themselves to Kyle Boller and never let go, despite his repeated failures.

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Boller was drafted in 2003, got hurt, and then started all 16 games in 2004. As soon as the 2004 season was over, Savage came to Cleveland. I don't think you can hang the entire Boller debacle on Savage's shoulders.....not at all. He aint been there for 3 years dude......

And to add to your point Shep.....Savage was a part of the decision making process, he wasn't the decision maker.

He's also the guy that snatched DA up when the Rats let him go.

Moot point anyway, as K Boller doesn't play for us.

Anybody know for a fact (or close to it) how much BQ makes this year total with and without the 50% snaps thing vs. DA?
Just curious.

I have a feeling it's around 4 million?? So 4 to 8 million........hmmmm. I say start the most talented player once TC is over.

I have no idea which QB is best for the long haul so I hope that nobody takes what I'm about to say the wrong way.

One of my fears is that DA plays just good enough to not get pulled but not great. Quinn then never gets a chance to see the field so we are either in this same boat again next year, We trade DA next year and Quinn still ends up a bust or we trade Quinn and he becomes great.

I just wish there was a way to get to see what both guys really can do. I'm not talking training camp and preseason games either. We all saw DA in preseason and anyone who though he was going to do what he did this past season based on what he did in preseason would be kidding themselves. He didn't show any signs of being a top QB during that time. He didn't even really beat out Frye for the starting job.

I love what he did for us during the season but because of it we have no idea what we have with Quinn. It is great but at the same time it would be nice to see what Quinn could do given the same chance. I don't know if it would be better or worse but I doubt we find out this season.

I believe it will show and possibly quickly rather or not Quinn is the better option.

I think this will be an interesting camp for sure and the coaching staff just might have to make a tough, tough call here. They both better come to camp on their game!

I just want a good QB whoever that may be.

All I have to add to this threadis...Good. He should.

I watched a snipet on ESPN and he is saying the right thing. He should feel he will be the starter. I'm pretty sure that if DA beats him out in the preseason he will take on the backup role without much fuss.

I'm with you, Pdawg. I want every guy on this team to feel he should be the starter at his position and try his best to make it so. Now, I also expect them to be great teammates and support the guy who may beat them out.

But I know I sure wouldn't want to read about Quinn saying "Hey, DA's the starter, so I'm just going to be the backup."