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If he's better than DA is in camp, then let him start. If not, let him sit/back-up or deal him for some picks or players that will assist us in our quest.
Amen because the battle should obviously be won in camp where the true better QB really emerges, I mean just look at Frye and Ander....
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I don’t think BQ will get chance to see field this year. I think whatever RAC or coaches learn from TC or preseason, DA remains our starter if Phil wants it that way. It will decrease DA’s value significantly if he gets beat by rook in TC. For justification of his contract value he goes into season as starter. I think Phil will call shots when it comes to QB position
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I don’t think BQ will get chance to see field this year. I think whatever RAC or coaches learn from TC or preseason, DA remains our starter if Phil wants it that way. It will decrease DA’s value significantly if he gets beat by rook in TC. For justification of his contract value he goes into season as starter. I think Phil will call shots when it comes to QB position
Everything you just said is dumb if DA isn't by far the better QB.  If they start DA just because he makes more it will be clear to me the FO doesn't care about winning.
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I don’t think BQ will get chance to see field this year. I think whatever RAC or coaches learn from TC or preseason, DA remains our starter if Phil wants it that way. It will decrease DA’s value significantly if he gets beat by rook in TC. For justification of his contract value he goes into season as starter. I think Phil will call shots when it comes to QB position
Well, for starters BQ is not a "rook" anymore. Second, you might be on the right track that DA will be the starter in game 1 regardless of how camp goes...at least if it's somewhat close. But if he falters through a couple games, expect a change. I truly do believe that BQ is the best QB on the team and I think it's going to show sooner or later. The FO and coaches are going to have a very hard time justifying BQ on the bench if/when DA proves to be mediocre.
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I don’t think BQ will get chance to see field this year. I think whatever RAC or coaches learn from TC or preseason, DA remains our starter if Phil wants it that way. It will decrease DA’s value significantly if he gets beat by rook in TC. For justification of his contract value he goes into season as starter. I think Phil will call shots when it comes to QB position
Everything you just said is dumb if DA isn't by far the better QB. If they start DA just because he makes more it will be clear to me the FO doesn't care about winning.
That's the reason that if there is a clear winner he will be starting. If Phil wasn't worried about winning now he would have never been so aggressive making trades.
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If Phil wasn't worried about winning now he would have never been so aggressive making trades.
I have to say, I think it's almost a foreign feeling for us Browns fans that we're concentrating on "winning now." For so many years, it's been "if we can do this and this and this, we'll be a good solid team in a year or two." Now that that time may have (hopefully) come, it's almost like we don't quite know what to do!
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I don’t think BQ will get chance to see field this year. I think whatever RAC or coaches learn from TC or preseason, DA remains our starter if Phil wants it that way. It will decrease DA’s value significantly if he gets beat by rook in TC. For justification of his contract value he goes into season as starter. I think Phil will call shots when it comes to QB position
Everything you just said is dumb if DA isn't by far the better QB. If they start DA just because he makes more it will be clear to me the FO doesn't care about winning.
That's the reason that if there is a clear winner he will be starting. If Phil wasn't worried about winning now he would have never been so aggressive making trades.
Yes, I get it. I was talking about Cruzer's post. 
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I don’t think BQ will get chance to see field this year. I think whatever RAC or coaches learn from TC or preseason, DA remains our starter if Phil wants it that way. It will decrease DA’s value significantly if he gets beat by rook in TC. For justification of his contract value he goes into season as starter. I think Phil will call shots when it comes to QB position
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I was agreeing with you.
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You laugh...but I think I get it now.
It looks like the QB situation may have come down to money and cap space.
If Quinn starts game one and plays all of '08, his contract goes up...and our cap goes down over the next couple of seasons.
With Anderson's new contract, after '08 any trade of Anderson results in a very small cap hit..hence the "trade friendly" contract.
So, what we've done is pay Anderson now, give him the chance to showcase his skills for a high '09 draft choice. The the lack of QB talent in the NFL now, and the overall lack of QB talent in the draft...the QB draught will still exist this time next year. Keeping and starting Anderson for '08 will also reduce Quinns overall salary and cap hit over the next couple of years. Thus giving us more future cap space.
Starting Anderson in '08 makes the most sense cap wise, and Anderson trade wise. And it won't hurt Quinn to sit another year.
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We're starting to put the cart before the horse again.........
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I think it has more to do with what Savage has said than what people want to make up. It is that simple.
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I hate to say it and you can speculate all you want but DA will be the starter unless BQ just has a monster training camp,or gets injured.A good indication of this was the last game of the season against the Niners RAC could have let DA sit after he got hurt but he didnt.It would have been nice to see the kid play the second half to see what he could do.
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I think it was nice to let Anderson go back in and finish the very good season he had.
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I see that now. Sorry. 
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Great attitude from Quinn!!!
He needs to prepare everyday like he's the starter of this team...
it's likely that DA will be the starter on day one (unless he falters horribly and/or Quinn really outshines him).... but even if he is Quinn is always one play away from being the starter.
I want guys on this team that want to work their tails off and fight for those positions...
with that said, I full believe that even if Quinn has to ride the pine again that he will do so graciously and continue to fight for that position. I'm hoping that he won't be negative if he has to ride the pine again. We'll see.
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“Brady is a competitor. He wants to play and we understand that,” Crennel said. “I think he’s a professional and being a professional, if he is with the Browns he will be a Brown.”
Interesting.
To the rest:
I think this team has improved itself and I think they will also improve because they learned how to win last year. Also, some of our younger starters should be better w/another year of experience in the league.
My biggest concern is the media and fan combination. Many worked very hard to state that we shouldn't keep DA. Now, that Phil and the Browns have decided to keep DA, those same folks will work hard to pressure the Browns to play BQ over DA.
I hope the fans and the media don't upset the apple cart. This team is headed in the right direction and they don't need outside influences affecting their decisions. How can they do that? One word...............Junior.
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i don't see RAC or Savage being influenced by the media at all...and for the last couple years junior has been able to keep his nose out of things so I don't see him sticking it in there unless we lose 4 or 5 games in a row and make no changes (which I don't see happening either)
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I do not understand how Anderson EARNED more time as the starter when Tim Couch (in your opinion) did not EARN more time in 2003 after leading this team to the PLAYOFFS in 2002? 
Just wait till next season, I have heard that for over 40 years!
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I wouldn't expect you to.
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DC: I highly doubt that money is the motivating factor in any of this. The FO wants one thing and one thing only: To Win A Superbowl. Money is not a factor, the way I see it. Yes, we need to be mindful of what we're spending. But who starts and who sits does not depend on who's making what!
Vers: I share your fears about the fan influence. But not over Phil and RAC. Rather, over DA. I've got to think he feels slighted seeing as how he won 10 games for us last season and yet, many still clamor for Quinn. I explained why I wanted to see Quinn get his due, but I'm not in the majority when it comes to the Quinn-campers. I hope people can see that. It's a fine line I'm trying to walk and it's not always easy. But when in doubt, I'll always revert back to my basic premise... Give me a winner and I won't complain one iota whose taking the snaps.
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I think it was nice to let Anderson go back in and finish the very good season he had.
It would have been NICE to see what we have in our backup QB in a meaningless game !!!!!!!!!!!
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It would have been NICE to see what we have in our backup QB in a meaningless game !!!!!!!!!!!
Does it really matter? One half of a game against a defense like the 49ers' in a game that was meaningless for both teams? I don't see the big issue here.
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In hindsight, it would have answered some questions regarding Quinn's ability in a real NFL game, but it may have just added fuel to the fire in the QB deadbates.
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In hindsight, it would have answered some questions regarding Quinn's ability in a real NFL game, but it may have just added fuel to the fire in the QB deadbates.
Definitely would have added fuel to the fire,but I think it would have been better to get BQ some real game experience.
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Exactly who wouldn't want two young QBs who have shown promise and who a lot of people think could be legitimate players at their position to both WANT and EXPECT to start? I don't see how anyone could have any problem with anything these two QBs are doing. Neither has done anything wrong.
We may all have different ideas on which one we believe will be the better QB for this team in the future and who we believe will win out in the end, but neither of these guys has done anything wrong as far as their expectations for themselves and their expectations for the team.
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Vers: I share your fears about the fan influence. But not over Phil and RAC. Rather, over DA. I've got to think he feels slighted seeing as how he won 10 games for us last season and yet, many still clamor for Quinn. I explained why I wanted to see Quinn get his due, but I'm not in the majority when it comes to the Quinn-campers. I hope people can see that. It's a fine line I'm trying to walk and it's not always easy. But when in doubt, I'll always revert back to my basic premise... Give me a winner and I won't complain one iota whose taking the snaps.
If DA's play suffers because of the perceived notion that the fans want the backup to play, he'll never make it in any NFL city as a QB.
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Wow…. I am glad at least you are having fun
It seems you feel there is ZERO business aspect in trading or signing any players. You think everything is black and white. I don’t think that way.
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1)Why did we raise our offer by 6 mil. At last moment (I don’t buy Phil’s comment about media was wrong in reporting first offer)
2)Apparently there was not that much demand for DA’s service
3)Phil says we are going with 2 QBS in 2008. That says we will trade someone after 2008 season
a.If DA sits on bench, his value goes down (feel free to argue about this point)
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Exactly who wouldn't want two young QBs who have shown promise and who a lot of people think could be legitimate players at their position...
I suppose we could find our way into a Montana/Young situation (I know, I know, Anderson/Quinn is NOT Montana/Young talentwise........I couldn't think of another QB tandem where both QB's were capable starters that the team kept on the roster for an extended period of time).
Last year a lot of people envisioned a Brees/Rivers scenario in 2007 and that came true. Why can't the Montana/Young comparison happen in 08, 09, 10.....and onwards?
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Exactly who wouldn't want two young QBs who have shown promise and who a lot of people think could be legitimate players at their position...
I suppose we could find our way into a Montana/Young situation (I know, I know, Anderson/Quinn is NOT Montana/Young talentwise........I couldn't think of another QB tandem where both QB's were capable starters that the team kept on the roster for an extended period of time).
Last year a lot of people envisioned a Brees/Rivers scenario in 2007 and that came true. Why can't the Montana/Young comparison happen in 08, 09, 10.....and onwards?
...I trying to stay positive
IMO the situation will take care of itself I am not sold on DA I think he will have to improve to remain the starter.There will be a lot of big games next season against a lot of good teams,DA will have to show he can win the BIG one.
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b.IF BQ dose not see field, and we want to trade him. His value stays intact.
If BQ doesn't see the field, it's because he couldn't beat out DA, therefore his value drops. (i.e. BQs '09 value < DAs '08 value.) Besides, what value does a guy who fell 22 spots in the draft and has never had an NFL start really have anyway? I'm not saying he has none, but if we trade Quinn, it won't be for a king's ransom.
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It seems you feel there is ZERO business aspect in trading or signing any players.
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You think everything is black and white. I don’t think that way.
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Believe who you want. The media can take educated guesses, but I can give you numerous examples of the media reporting contract proposals that are close, but clearly innacurate. HOWEVER, as I've stated in perhaps this very thread, locking up Anderson so we can postpone the ultimate decision of who's going to be the QB for the long-haul is the most important goal. By upping the offer, they locked Anderson into a contract instead of running the risk that he'll simply ride out the tender, thus forcing our hand to either let him walk next year, or franchising him while giving him HUGE money.
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Don't put the cart before the horse. (Sooner or later some of you people are going to FINALLY get this point )
The ABSOLUTE MOST IMPORTANT VERY FIRST THING THIS ORGANIZATION HAS TO DO IS TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO MAKE SURE THEY CHOOSE THE RIGHT QB GOING INTO THE FUTURE *phew*. Forget getting the most for either QB. That's the cart. The horse part is making sure we have the right QB.
You get the QB decision right, THEN worry about compensation for the other guy.
People have to start using their heads on this one.
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b.IF BQ dose not see field, and we want to trade him. His value stays intact.
If BQ doesn't see the field, it's because he couldn't beat out DA, therefore his value drops. (i.e. BQs '09 value < DAs '08 value.) Besides, what value does a guy who fell 22 spots in the draft and has never had an NFL start really have anyway? I'm not saying he has none, but if we trade Quinn, it won't be for a king's ransom.
Despite the fact that I vehemently disagree with what he said, I happen to fully agree with his point in this case.
Quinn may not see the field because Anderson does exactly what he did last year. That doesn't mean Quinn sucks. That means Anderson hasn't lost the job. Furthermore, I firmly believe that if Quinn were on the trading block at the start of this free agency period, he'd have been traded for what I believe to be a 1st round pick. I make that statement because there are only really two QB's with high 1st round grades, and perhaps another that'll make it to the first round. Quinn would be viewed as better than those players because of his experience in the league. No, he didn't see the field, but the education he received from his 1st year here is invaluable. Remember, if that weren't the case, there wouldn't BE a universally accepted theory that QB's who sit for a year are more likely to succeed. So suddenly, because he'll sit another year, he's going to lose significant value? I don't see that happening.
Having gone through all that, I agree with you in regards to what we'd get back for Quinn. We wouldn't get a "kings ransom." You don't get that for a guy like Quinn who's a really good prospect. All you'd really get back is the same draft slot value that you paid.
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If BQ doesn't see the field, it's because he couldn't beat out DA, therefore his value drops. (i.e. BQs '09 value < DAs '08 value.) Besides, what value does a guy who fell 22 spots in the draft and has never had an NFL start really have anyway? I'm not saying he has none, but if we trade Quinn, it won't be for a king's ransom.
I don't think we actually know for sure. Shuab played three games and as a third round pick he was traded for 2nds and switching 1st round picks. I think it will be more to do with supply and demand. Unless of course DA stinks it up badly and he never sees the field. As long as we are winning with DA, he won't be pulled. If Quinn is going to beat out DA it ill have to be in preseason unless we are losing. I think other teams will realize that also.
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I didn't want to start another thread on this, but,, has anyone taken the time to listen to the MIke and Mike program this morning.. it's on the Multi Media area of the Browns main site.,
Anyway, Mike and Mike interviewed Savage this morning and the first thing they brought up is about Anderson of course..
I'd have to go back and listen again, but I thought for sure I heard Savage say that it looked like the best they could get for DA was a late 1st and a late 3rd rounder and that that team was then going to use DA to move up in the 1st...
I'm telling you, not one team was mentioned, but doesn't that sound a lot like maybe a Dallas giving us a late 1st (our old pick) and a late 3rd for Anderson then swaping thier remaining 1st and Anderson To miami for the 1st pick..
That's all guess work on my part, but dang, I'm almost sure that's what he said.. not the Miami and Dallas stuff..that's me.. but the other stuff..
Please, someone else go listen to it and tell me if you hear the same thing..
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"It sounded as if there was a possibility of a late 1st and a late 3rd.........where the team may use Anderson to trade up in the 1st"
Those were his words.
IF that's true.......and it is a big if.........that would explain even further why Anderson got the bump.
Again, the cart before the horse...........the most important thing is to find out which QB is THE right guy. A few extra million bucks over a 3-year span is meaningless when compared to the big picture.
Now frankly, I don't buy the thought that a team was ready to do the 1st and 3rd. If they really wanted Anderson, no matter what the ultimate outcome was supposed to be, they'd have had a deal lined up and ready to go at midnight on the first day of free agency. Said team was probably kicking around the idea and trying to find a trade partner, but the fear could have been very real. Furthermore, if Dunn had any inkling that a deal was coming, there's NO WAY he'd have Anderson sign the contract offer.
So the bottom line? Anderson's contract guarantees that we have the best shot at finding the right QB. Quinn is still in the mix.
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Furthermore, if Dunn had any inkling that a deal was coming, there's NO WAY he'd have Anderson sign the contract offer.
Maybe this is why the deal didn't get done before midnight.. Maybe Dunn knew they has something else in the bag and Savage said no.. Geez, there sure are a whole lotta maybes running rampant isn't there 
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Well, as I'd stated during that last week before free agency, it didn't make any sense for Anderson to sign a deal at that point. The deal wasn't going to be reduced, so Dunn would have been an absolute idiot if he had Anderson sign it before exploring any possible big-money offers once free agency opened up.
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Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Don't know where to put this so I'll just put it here:
Chris Mortensen was on with Colin Cowhurd on ESPN radio yesterday talking about the Anderson signing. He said that he was at a Pro Bowl practice and talked to Norv Turner who was coaching the AFC team. Turner said that Anderson had far more talent throwing the football than Manning or Roethlisberger. That his motion was effortless and that he has rare ability.
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I think one of the problems with Anderson (as I see it) is that he has such natural ability that a scout (Phil Savage) could not let a guy like that get away. Even for a 1st and a 3rd.
My opinion though is that accuracy is the most important component that a QB can have. Anderson is erratic to be kind in that department. I really want to see what Quinn has in that department.
But I can see where Phil sees Anderson through a scout's eyes and that visual of him in practice effortlessly powering a football would be intoxicating compared with Quinn who has a slightly above average arm.
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