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OK, why are we not going after him?

Are we out of dough?

Is he too old?

Why would he be joking? Unless I'm missing something (which is always possible) I think it's a legimate question.

A) How do you know that we're not going after him?
B) How do you know if we have the money left to go after him?
C) How do you know he would be a good fit here?

How do you know we aren't going after him?

Theres a little conversation going on about this in the Free Agent Signings Part II thread...To answer your questions

Maybe we are, who knows?
No
31 isn't too old, but not very young any more

At this point, I think it's unreasonable to expect any more FA moves...and secondly, I doubt that he would be on our to do list if we did make another move.

So it was a legimate question. You just didn't feel like answering it the first time.....

I guess you could say that

The Browns are looking at him...how serious I don't know.

He blew out his shoulder bad at the end of last year, torn rotator cuff.

Plus he's not a 3-4 LB.

we might be looking at him, i'm sure Phil is looking but also


If he hurt his shoulder : Maybe it's healed to the point were he can play

He's not 3-4....maybe not but maybe he's less 3-4 than what we currently have, i do think he might beable to play inside LB, We wont get all-pro but we might be able to get better than what we got.

Just my .02

Besides the $5 million due to him (reason for the cut), Spikes also failed his physical with the Iggles and it may be awhile before he's ready.

Ding! Spikes was never that great of a hitter, and now he's got a bum shoulder.

Guys, he's over with. A torn rotator cuff and a torn achilles in three years equals = his next contract will be with NFL Network.

I would rather go after Kendrell Bell. He was a good ILB with the Steelers with their 3-4 scheme, but sucked once he signed with KC, who runs a 4-3.

I would say that we have a bigger need at cb.

Bell is easily one of the most one dimensional, one year wonders in the league. He had a bunch of sacks his rookie year, then rode that out into a massive deal with the Chiefs.

I'm just saying if we're going to take a chance on a linebacker, I'd rather take one with a linebacker who's had some success in the 3-4. I know we could get him on the cheap. Plus if he proves not to have anything left in the tank, cut him. Instead of ILB, we need to be looking at OLB'ers. We need to either re-sign Thompson or go afet Haggans.

If they land Blackstock, don't be surprised if it's a one year deal and they use him at ILB instead of going after a Bell or Spikes. He was out of position in Phoenix.

I think we all have a bit free agency fever...I fully expect us to stand pat until the draft, and see what shakes out of the tree come June 1st. I wouldn't be surprised if we decided to ride out with what we have, plus or draft picks, and undrafted free agents.

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Plus he's not a 3-4 LB.

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What is with this kind of thinking???

You're the same on e saying Briggs wouldn't fit here...

U tellin' us we have basically SEVEN NFL teams that we can pick a LB from???...That's about how many run a 3-4...That's BS at best...

Explain that to us...Cause I for one think your beyond nuts with that thinking...

Inside and Outside...Different responsibilities...But u won't sway me from taking a guy who is a physical specimen with TALENT at LB...And be able to move him from OLB to ILB from a 4-3 to a 3-4...

This is pretty basic...Either the dude's a PLAYER at LB or he ain't...Regardless of where he plays...

I said Briggs would be an OLB if he signed with the Browns. I also expanded what I said to say in a system like the Chargers or Cowboys, that Briggs would be an ILB because those positions are pure cover and sideline to sideline playmakers, similar to what he was in Chicago. He would fit better in Cleveland as the SOLB because of the coverage responsibilities it has.

Spikes is nowhere near as physical as people think he is. The may makes plays on the run and blasts up a ball carrier, but that doesn't mean he's a 3-4 ILB. Playing ILB in the 3-4 is so much different than OLB in a 4-3. Spikes has NEVER taken on blocks in his career, EVER. Spikes runs around blockers, and consequently put himself in a lot of bad spots in his career. He never eats up a G, uses a hand punch to break free, and cleans up the ball carrier. Spikes needs to be on the move to be effective, and before his injuries was a premier outside run defender.

D'Qwell Jackson is a great 3-4 ILB, despite his lack of size, because he can slip blocks and take on blockers at the point of attack. Not just FB's or TE's, OG's and C's. Takeo Spikes is NOT that guy.

I never said we have 7 teams that we can get LB's from. There are certain guys that can't play in the 3-4, period. Yeah they might be good players, but speedier "run around blocks" type LB (Cato June, Freddie Keiaho, Thomas Howard, Jonathan Vilma, etc) are not going to do well in the 3-4. They are good players, but they fit into one system.

On the flip there are certain 4-3 OLB's (or MLB's for that matter) who could move inside to a 3-4 ILB spot. Angelo Crowell, Danny Clark, Daryl Smith, Stewart Bradley, are a few off the top of my head.

When a player like Spikes moves from team to team at this point in his career questions must be asked. How much is he really worth? And how much as a true player is left? Achelles tendons don't come back so well.

My question is not so much about Takeo Spikes. My question is: is Leon Williams ready to be a impact player? With the line upgrade we need someone blowing up plays in the gaps not 4 yards past the line of scrimmage per Andra Davis. Leon should be ready to step in there this year and be the inforcer.

I have liked his play up to injury; at his age, not what we need. Some posters felt "not 3-4" with which I agree. However, the rear view mirrors suggest some of ours must not be "3-4 enough" in light of the defense rankings. A bit more 43 run stoppage might help. Still this points up a question: We have a playbook driving gameplans; arguable whether we have players fitting the imposed (with arguable success or lack thereof) system yet. Was it Granthams 'pressure bypass operation'? This Spikes thing is just a symptom. Pretty sure he is priced out of what we have left, and I am OK with that.

Saw this on SI.com. Who knows where this guy's info is coming from, but thought I would post this since someone actually linked us to him...

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The 49ers are still in the running for Takeo Spikes, but they are not the linebacker's only suitors. Spikes, who played last season for the Eagles, also is being courted by New England, New Orleans and Cleveland...... Sacramento Bee

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That is the only mention of us in the article, which you can view in full by clicking on Sacramento Bee below the quote. At least it provides a little bit of intrigue on these slow news days. Wouldn't mind us adding him if the price isn't outrageous.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/44931

Andra Davis continues to be THE most overrated player in the entire league, and IF someone like Spikes is healthy, he's a MAJOR upgrade over Davis.

U have been wrong at times before BUT NEVER like this..
Davis is not the most overrated player in the entire league......
HE 'S the MOST OVERRATED player in any Browns forum