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Home > Inside the Dolphins > Archives > 2008 > March > 10 > Entry Browns finally give Hadnot a home; Green returns to Rams By Tim Graham | Monday, March 10, 2008, 04:47 PM Just a few weeks ago, guard Rex Hadnot appeared to be the most attractive member of this year’s Dolphin free-agent class. He’s a versatile lineman who started all 16 games last year at right guard and every game at center the year before. But the Dolphins didn’t want him back, and several other teams came away unimpressed during a series of visits. Ten days after hitting the open market with a belief he would be high on someone’s wish list, Hadnot finally has a new home. Hadnot’s agent, Brian Overstreet, told The Palm Beach Post this afternoon Hadnot has agreed to terms with the Browns. Terms aren’t yet known, but Hadnot had been looking for a four- or five-year deal at about $5 million per. He also visited the Texans, Titans, Steelers and Chiefs but came away without any offers. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/conte...de_the_dolphins
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Can't say i like this move, especially for that money. I would have preferred seth mckinney. I wonder if this means the browns have no faith in lecharles bentley.
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Can't say i love or hate it, hes young with some potential and room to improve. Hes has some quality and value, which is why hes getting about 5 mil a year, hopefully he can contribute and only make us better.
Hes about 26 with 4 years of experience...how bad can he get, he can only improve right?
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There is no way they paid him that much. That was just what they said Hadnot was "looking for" on the market.. which he was in no way shape or form worth. I find this a good move for depth's sake, hopefully he's only getting 2-3 mil per year... then I like and am okay with the deal.
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We resign Friedman now we sign Hadnot, I said it in the Freidman thread, but I think Bentley has played his last game in the NFL.
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We resign Friedman now we sign Hadnot, I said it in the Freidman thread, but I think Bentley has played his last game in the NFL.
I thought it was a reach when we resigned Friedman
But with this one, yeah, i'd say Bentley is D-U-N DONE!  
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BROWNS SIGN OL REX HADNOT TO A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT
The Cleveland Browns have signed OL Rex Hadnot to a two-year contract, the club announced today.
the deal contains between $3 and $4 million in guaranteed money
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But with this one, yeah, i'd say Bentley is D-U-N DONE!
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Can't say i like this move, especially for that money. I would have preferred seth mckinney. I wonder if this means the browns have no faith in lecharles bentley.
The money hasn't been announced....that was what he wanted.
We needed a interior lineman...especially a center.
I guess we felt McKinney was too much risk or just not good enough.
At any rate, we have a guy with starting experience and loads of playing experience.
We filled a position of need. I trust we signed him to a deal that makes sense from a cap perspective.
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But with this one, yeah, i'd say Bentley is D-U-N DONE!
Yup, I think you're right.
Well Punch, I have expected this for 2 years. And we haven't done that bad without the guy.
I feel bad for Bentley, but his playing days are over....at least with us.
One of those unfortunate deals.
Anytime a guy is injured on maybe the first snap of camp, you know something isn't meant to be.
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Never thought Bentley would play for us ever any way. I guess this seals it. I wonder what we can get for him?
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Just clickin, ESPN says it was 2 years for $7 Mill. Quote:
After being aggressive in upgrading their defensive line and receiving corps, the Cleveland Browns went back to basics and tried to provide insurance for their offensive line by re-signing guard Lennie Friedman.
Friedman, 31, agreed to a one-year deal to be a backup at guard and center. This will be Friedman's third season with the Browns. He's had two starts over the past two years.
In 10 seasons, Friedman has started 34 games for four teams, including the Bears, Redskins and Broncos.
The Browns also reached a two-year, $7 million deal with Dolphins guard Rex Hadnot.
Hadnot was considered one of the prize offensive linemen on the market. He was talking to the Steelers and the Houston Texans, but he decided to take a short-term deal with the Browns.
At 26, Hadnot will have two years to start on a talented Browns offensive line and then see if he can get a long-term contract.
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I wonder if this could lead to a Shaffer trade? Hadnot at RG and Tucker at RT?
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Never thought Bentley would play for us ever any way. I guess this seals it. I wonder what we can get for him?
I doubt we can get anything for him.
I don't see many teams giving a pick for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years and has undergone the problems this guy has.
We take him to camp, see what he has and keep him or cut him.
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will be interesting to see the money that Hadnot received, but it sounds like it might have been a bargain compared to what he was looking for. The signing is curious though, both Freidman and Hadnot.......
I still have some hope for Bentley, if he was close last fall he should be good to go now. If he can't produce in the OTA's, then its time to move on. Whatever be the case, it looks like the browns have protected themselves in case he can't go. Better to get the players now, and cut them later then to be scrounging the waiver wire looking for a player.
Wonder what we can get for Bentley---- that will be a big fat nothing. If he can't make it with the browns, how will he pass a physical with another team??
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But with this one, yeah, i'd say Bentley is D-U-N DONE!
Yup, I think you're right.
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ESPN says it was 2 years for $7 Mill.
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After being aggressive in upgrading their defensive line and receiving corps, the Cleveland Browns went back to basics and tried to provide insurance for their offensive line by re-signing guard Lennie Friedman.
Friedman, 31, agreed to a one-year deal to be a backup at guard and center. This will be Friedman's third season with the Browns. He's had two starts over the past two years.
In 10 seasons, Friedman has started 34 games for four teams, including the Bears, Redskins and Broncos.
The Browns also reached a two-year, $7 million deal with Dolphins guard Rex Hadnot.
Hadnot was considered one of the prize offensive linemen on the market. He was talking to the Steelers and the Houston Texans, but he decided to take a short-term deal with the Browns.
At 26, Hadnot will have two years to start on a talented Browns offensive line and then see if he can get a long-term contract.
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The best part? We took someone the Steelers wanted...
Steelers fans really wanted this guy.
Reading their board, it's baffling to me to think they're as concerned about the OL as they are.
Are the tides finally shifting? 
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The best part? We took someone the Steelers wanted...
So what's with this from the initial story that started this thread...
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He also visited the Texans, Titans, Steelers and Chiefs but came away without any offers.
It sounds like two conflicting stories here. The second story says those teams were "interested". The first story says they weren't impressed with the visit.
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But the Dolphins didn’t want him back, and several other teams came away unimpressed during a series of visits.
Maybe he had a cold. 
I dunno.
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I dunno man...one thing about the Steelers is that they're really good at replacing people.
I know this may spell the end for Bentley, which really breaks my heart being a fellow wildcat, but I wonder what this spells for Sowells.
BTW, Toad, I know that you're a quasi-Fish buff because of your buddy. What does he think?
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The more OL depth the better we will be as a team....I know that we can afford to and have overpaid players , but IMHO Phil will only dothat to secure Good players Not average or Backup players  ....
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I dunno man...one thing about the Steelers is that they're really good at replacing people.
I know this may spell the end for Bentley, which really breaks my heart being a fellow wildcat, but I wonder what this spells for Sowells.
BTW, Toad, I know that you're a quasi-Fish buff because of your buddy. What does he think?
It's amazing how many of them DON'T want Marvel Smith back and how much they hate Sean Mahan.
I can honestly see them drafting a 1st round guard to replace Faneca though.
The theme is "We have a ton of guys who can play multiple positions...but none can play one position well."
Sound like an old, versatile OL philosophy we once had? 
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Marvel Smith does suck.
I will agree with you that I think the Steelers have finally lost more than they can handle in terms of replacing people/depth.
I wouldn't be surprised if they went OL more than once on the first day.
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Good signing, gives us a good set of backups who can play guard and center. Sowells will really have to earn his spot this year, and will not get a young man's pass onto the club this season. I think we need a backup OT still, but Thomas, Steinbach, Shaffer, and Tucker will all be able to play tackle so it's not that big of a need.
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I feel bad for Bentley, but his playing days are over....at least with us. One of those unfortunate deals. Anytime a guy is injured on maybe the first snap of camp, you know something isn't meant to be.
I hate to bring this up now..but Peen has lead me to a good time ..
On the day that LCB blew his knee out about the same time of day a girl was going down the on ramp of Interstate & a guy was up the off ramp
On my way to my golf league @3;30pm I saw all the lights & EMT equip
later that nite I saw what happenned
She went over the grassy hump between the roads...(loooking for cell phone on flooor booard ???) they guessed and planted her Ford right on his lap ( he was in a CJ 7 Jeep top down) they both died ....he sure shouldn't have
I've been on that ramp several times since (couple on purpose) and have timed it .......2 to 3 seconds one way or another HE would be alive,,can't say about her but I would guess not If you know the area...
SO
I know careers can be cut short.....but IT don't compare
And it could happen to one of us going to CBS to see our team..
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Offensive lineman are like pitchers, you can never have enough of 'em.
I really don't want the Browns to trade any of their lineman. I know some want Shaffer dealt BUT Shaffer played RT very well ast season. Ryan Tucker is no longer quick enough to play RT consistently, he's a guard at this point.
Depth is great! We may not be as lucky in 2008 with injuries and if our OL goes down so do the Browns.
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It's a good day for offensive line depth. Phil is building the team in a smart, methodical way. Go Browns!!
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this one sort of caught me by surprise, especially since I never heard of this guy before. Though I'm no OL guro, to say the least!  Anyways, I'm still glad to see Phil is keeping the OL an important part of the gameplan, since it needs to be. I really feel sad for LCB but it's not like he wanted to get injured and there's not much we can do but hope and pray he can play, though it looks doubtful. Depth is always good especially for the OL. Now I'd still like to see a bit more improvement on the DL.
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I'm a little disappointed. I mean I hope this improves our team, but I really wanted us to resign McKinney.
I don't know anything about this guy, but I haven't read anything that leads me to believe he'll be better than McKinney. Actually, the 'disappointing' comment from the original article makes me worried.
I know the injuries were probably a concern for McKinney, but he wouldn't have been a starter anyway. But I'm telling you, if either of the guards went down or Shaffer (moving Tucker to tackle), I sure wouldn't feel my heart skip a beat with McKinney stepping in based on how well the line played with him in there last year.
Hadnot is a complete unknown, and that makes me nervous. Hope it turns out ok.
As for Bentley, I feel so bad for him. And to think it was the staph, not even the injury that did it. I can still remember how excited I was the day he signed. I wish him the best of luck.
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Only thing I really like about this is... he's only 26. He has plenty of room to grow. He brings some youth to our o-line definitely. Sowells hasn't stepped up, and he may be on the way out.
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I do agree with you about McKinney, I think I would have tried to resign him. Unless he was trying to burn us for more money than he'd be worth???
Ditto, HBYT, he is young enough to improve his game and hopefully he will do just that.
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This deal is interesting to me...
Why would a guy who started for the last 4 years, entering the prime of his career, sign with a team as a clear back-up?
This has got me wondering if Phil plans to trade someone -- Kevin Shaffer perhaps? Or, is Tucker ready to move into the later stages of his career and share playing time?
I'm all for OL depth -- and if Phil likes him, I like him -- but not everything fits together so smoothly about this one. A two year deal? A team with 5 starters already in place?
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I dunno man...one thing about the Steelers is that they're really good at replacing people.
I know this may spell the end for Bentley, which really breaks my heart being a fellow wildcat, but I wonder what this spells for Sowells.
BTW, Toad, I know that you're a quasi-Fish buff because of your buddy. What does he think?
While the Fish are his team, I know more about his team than he does  Case in point: He loved the Ricky Williams trade when they first got him (doh) and he loved Saban when he was signed (double-doh). Having said that.........
I've seen a bunch of Hadnot. He's not special. He was discussed earlier in the free-agent period, at which time I said I didn't care for him as a starter. I still don't. Now, as a backup/swingman, he's a veteran player who's young and has some starts under his belt. That makes him valuable, and for $7 mil over two years, sure, it's a good signing.
Now, I don't see where this spells the end for Bentley. We weren't going to bank anything on Bentley returning anyway, as that wouldn't be prudent business. This most likely spells the end for that loser Dorsey ('bout damned time too). This also isn't a signing that spells the end for Shaffer or Tucker You don't replace one of two guys that made QUALITY starts with a guy who was tossed to the curb by a team that had one of the worst offensive lines in the league. If you DO sign a guy to do that, you don't give him a two year $7 million dollar deal *L*
This isn't to say that someone like Tucker or Shaffer can't be dumped because they show up to camp in horrible shape or simply lose numerous steps, but here's what we just did: We added one of the leagues most expensive and versatile swingmen. That's it. Oh, the team will say he'll be given every opportunity to win the job........that he's young and has plenty of upside........blah blah blah, but in the end, Tuck and Shaffer still have their jobs.
It's just like Derek Anderson and Quinn: Quinn can't win the job. Anderson can only lose it. Hadnot can't win a job. Shaffer and Tucker can only lose'em.
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You know.....I liked McKinney and all. But I don't understand the utter love fest for him. He was pretty good in the pass game, but we really coudn't run to the right side very well until Tucker took over for him. I really liked our line much more with Tucker in the spot of RG. And seeing that McKinney would have been a backup anyway...I don't necessarily think that Hadnot or Friedman is any real sizeable drop from McKinney. Especially if Bentley is able to come back(  ....but not counting on it )
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Yep. We replaced McKinney. That's it. It has nothing to do with Schaffer, Tucker or Bentley.
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So what positions need filled/determined on offense at this time:
4th wide receiver: Wilson or ?
9th offensive lineman: Dorsey or ?
There is room for another tackle unless they want to go with 8 OL. Is this what depth looks like?
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We have a seriously convoluted depth chart when it comes to the O-line.
For the sake of keeping this simple, I'm only going to state which positions have starters and who would be the primary backups:
LT: Thomas, Shaffer
LG: Steinbach, Hadnot, Friedman
Center: Fraley, Stein, Hadnot
RG: Tucker, Hadnot, Sowells
RT: Shaffer, Tucker, Dorsey (ppfftt)
The short point is that we've the kind of versatility that teams in this league dream of. As a starting left tackle, Shaffer is a well-below average player. As a backup left tackle, he's one of if not the best in the league.
As a starting center or guard, Hadnot is below-average, but as a backup, he's as good as there is.
Then there's Tucker, who can play guard or right tackle, Friedman who can swing around, Stein can drop in and play center, etc etc.
Guys can change positions on the line if the FO so chooses, but their versatility makes it such every single player outside of Fraley can move to another position and start.
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I actually remember Sowells going in at RT in 2006 in the last game. Can't remember how he did, but I do remember him playing RT.
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j/c Hey, he's an OLineman. Sounds good to me.  I don't see him making tackles expendable though.
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This has got me wondering if Phil plans to trade someone -- Kevin Shaffer perhaps? Or, is Tucker ready to move into the later stages of his career and share playing time?
BB...I am thinking that is the probable reason. If not this year, then next.
Hadnot will be given a shot to compete, and he might win outright. If not, he knows he is on a team that will win some games and is in position to take over.
A trade may be on the table, but that seem like it would weaken us in the long term and deplete the reserves.
If we do trade Shaffer, we have to feel pretty good about one of the young guys....I can't remember any names though....It can't be Dorsey.
Overall Shaffer does a nice enough job. I don't think we are very interested in shipping him.....but you never know. For now, I will stick with the idea we are planning for Tuckers decline. He is entering the stage of his career it isn't premature to start planning for his eventual replacement.
Sometimes the decline happens pretty quickly. In the event that happens this year, we are ready to go.
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