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Again guys I will post these as long as I think some others may enjoy the read.

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Inside Slant:

When the Browns signed Donte Stallworth to a seven-year contract to start opposite Braylon Edwards, what they really did was improve their third receiver position.

The new lineup leaves Stallworth and Edwards plus tight end Kellen Winslow as the starters in the base offense. The Browns should have more instant-offense than they did last year. Joe Jurevicius, a full-time starter in 2007 in his second year with the Browns and 10th in the NFL, would be the third receiver.

The move should not be interpreted as a demotion for Jurevicius, who says he plans to retire after the 2008 season. In fact, this could be a way for the 33-year-old veteran to squeeze one more season out of his body.

"Joe had come up at the end of the year and said he felt like being the number two receiver had taken somewhat of a toll on him as the season developed, so he would appreciate if we could go find a legitimate number two," general manager Phil Savage said. "I think this really clearly defines what each of them will be doing."

Stallworth is faster than Jurevicius, but not as sure-handed. The addition of Stallworth is a plus because he can catch the quick out-pass and turn upfield.

Jurevicius will be asked to do what Tim Carter was unable to do as the third receiver last season -- help spread the field and keep the chains moving. Carter caught eight passes and was a non-factor in 2007.

Jurevicius will sacrifice his body for the Browns to make a first down. He caught 50 passes last season, 29 of those on third down. If Stallworth catches 50 passes and Jurevicius catches 30, 25 of them for first down, the offense will be better for it, and if the Browns make the playoffs, having a healthy, fresh Jurevicius will be a boost.

Stallworth, meanwhile, is confident he will fit in.

"These guys won 10 games last year and they have a lot of young talent," Stallworth said. "I'm excited to bring in what I bring in and I'm excited to be a part of it.

"I kind of know how different organizations operate and I liked what I saw once I was (in Cleveland). Everybody is all about winning. That's the attitude everybody is looking forward to."

Stallworth caught 46 passes for 697 yards and three touchdowns last season with the Patriots.

Notes and Quotes:

--Left tackle Joe Thomas and nose tackle Shaun Smith got a rousing ovation from fans in Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland recently when the two Browns walked out to the center of the floor to participate in the coin flip for the home opener of the Gladiators, Cleveland's entrant in the Arena Football League. This is the Gladiators' first season in Cleveland after moving from Las Vegas in October.

-- DT Shaun Rogers, acquired in a trade with the Lions, pleased Romeo Crennel and the defensive coaches when he weighed in at 350 pounds for his physical. The Browns would like him to play around that weight during the season.

--While signing OL Rex Hadnot and re-signing Lennie Friedman indicates the Browns lack confidence LeCharles Bentley will play in 2008, they do expect Bentley to participate in the OTAs beginning in May. The offseason conditioning program begins March 17. Bentley originally signed a six-year contract in 2006. The contract was reworked after missing the first two seasons to allow Bentley to become a free agent after 2008.

--The search for a cornerback after trading Leigh Bodden to the Lions brought the Browns back to an unlikely source -- Gary Baxter. Baxter missed the last 10 games of 2006 and all of 2007 after tearing both patellar tendons in a game against the Broncos two years ago. Baxter was an unrestricted free agent and the Browns re-signed him to a one-year deal.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "I wanted out of Green Bay and I'm glad Cleveland called me. I feel like I'm wanted here. It feels like home to me. I already feel like I got the love that I've been looking for. I'm happy and excited about it." -- Defensive tackle Corey Williams on being acquired from the Packers for a second-round draft choice.

It is only mid-March, but something that will bear watching in the weeks ahead is any renegotiations involving the contracts of right end Kellen Winslow Jr. and wide receiver Braylon Edwards. Winslow is signed through 2010 and Edwards is signed through 2009.

Both players switched agents. Winslow is now represented by Drew Rosenhaus after leaving the Poston Brothers. Edwards' new agent is Tom Condon after leaving Lamont Smith.
Condon has not made demands for a new contract, but Rosenhaus has. The Browns are treating the Winslow situation delicately. If they do give Winslow a new contract, general manager Phil Savage knows the next knock on his door will come from Condon.

TEAM NEEDS/OFFSEASON STRATEGY

The one area the Browns have been unable to address in free agency is finding an outside pass rusher. Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams, acquired in trades from the Lions and Packers respectively, each had seven sacks last season. They will beef up the pass rush from the line and stop the run, but in a 3-4 defense their effectiveness as pass rushers could be reduced.

Darryl Blackstock, a linebacker the Browns had interest in, signed with the Bengals. The search goes on, and now the Browns might have to wait until the draft or the June 1 cuts (not usually very bountiful) to complete it.


1: Outside linebacker: Finding a counterpart to Kamerion Wimbley is important to the facelift the Browns want to give the front seven. Travis LaBoy and Darryl Blackstock both visited and left without contracts, but the fact is neither bowled the Browns over. They are close to re-signing Chaun Thompson, but he is not the answer because he was a backup the last two seasons.

2. Inside linebacker: Former Bronco Al Wilson visited the Browns during the second week of March, but the Browns did not jump to sign him. Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams are expected to gobble up blockers and therefore Andra Davis and D'Qwell Jackson should improve, but coach Romeo Crennel would like to upgrade the position, either in the second wave of free agency or the draft.

3. Cornerback: The Browns are a little thin at cornerback after trading Leigh Bodden to the Lions in the Shaun Rogers deal. Daven Holly and Brandon McDonald will compete for the starting job at right cornerback. The cornerback help will probably come in the draft. McDonald was a fifth-round choice last year. The Browns do not have a pick in the first three rounds.

MEDICAL WATCH: TE Kellen Winslow Jr. is recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery and should be ready for the organized team activities beginning in May. ... DL Ethan Kelley, an unrestricted free agent, is recovering from microfracture surgery on his right knee. His return date is uncertain. ... WR Joe Jurevicius and LB Antwan Peek are making steady progress from arthroscopic knee surgery. ... G Isaac Sowells is expected to make a complete recovery from shoulder surgery in January and be ready for the OTAs.



Again guys, I know some of it is old news, as abvious by the CT comments, but I still thought it was worth reading.

I hope you enjoy.

I always enjoy these even if there is no new info. Thanks and keep posting.

Wonder what's up with Winslow's shoulder.

Thanks for the post. I didn't know that Rogers weighed 350 at his physical. He needs to be in shape and inspired this season.

Besides, what else is there to do in mid March besides read any and every article on the Browns over and over again.

Hey wasn't it said that Rodgers played most effectively when he was around 350?

I could swear I read something that said that...

They were probably extremely pleased to see Rogers show up at 350. I thought I read that he started the season, last year, at 340 and had ballooned up to 370 by the end of the year. 350, for him, is kinda "in shape".

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Regarding Tim Carter...........yes, he was a non-factor. Yet how many balls were thrown his way? How many plays were drawn up for him?

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Dissagree, balls were thrown Carter's way during the beginning of the year. Not many, but a few. And he never caught them or did anything with them.

Had he caught them he would have had more thrown his way, but the way I see it, DA lost trust in him and Carter went missing.

I expect Stallworth to be a lot better. I hated the Tim Carter signing, I remember his play for the Giants. Stallworth is a better player, period.

Tim Carter wasnt good enough to reduce the role of JJ.

Tim Carter was never going to be the answer. He was simply a result of Reuben going bye-bye.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember Carter getting the ball thrown to him hardly ever. I also don't remember him dropping any passes, but I do remeber him making some very good catches. I am not defending him or saying I would want him back but that's what I remember of him and I never understood why everyone hated on him.

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-- DT Shaun Rogers, acquired in a trade with the Lions, pleased Romeo Crennel and the defensive coaches when he weighed in at 350 pounds for his physical. The Browns would like him to play around that weight during the season.

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I'm glad to see Rogers at 350 now and hopefully closer to 340 when practice begins in July.

The lighter Rogers is, the more likely he sees more time at DE rather than NT. It would be great to see him improve on his 7 sacks last season.

That's one of the reason's I highlighted that section. 350 seems like a REALLY good wight for him considering this is the time of yr. that guys can tend to put on some wieght. The off-season work-outs haven't started yet and the time immediatley following the season is usually vacation/rehab/recover/resting time.

If Rogers attendends all of the off-season work-outs as he stated he would, and comes into camp allready in good shape.........man we could be looking at another pro-bowler from the Browns, this time on the defensive side !

I do remember Carter dropping quite a few early on, maybe a lot were the preseason, but I know he had the dropsies.

j/c:

I think our defense still has a lot of question marks. I wonder how "improved" we will be?

I understand that Savage couldn't do it all in one year and I am not complaining about that, but I do doubt that our D is going to improve as much as most people seem to think.

We have more than a couple of gaping holes.

It will improve i feel V but how much. It dosent take much to improve on 30th. I feel with the help of stopping the run we added along the D line has to add more than we had,

Does that meen we will be 15? Nah....

Better? The law of averages are in our favor.

I agree, old buddy. I think we will be better, but I think some people are thinking those two guys will solve all of our defensive ills. I kinda doubt it, as we still have some holes.

Btw.............I miss reading your posts. Knox too. You two were two of my favorite guys.

I can't stand Drew Rosenhaus! It's funny that Winslow brings him in and now he wants his contract re-worked. First of all what the Browns did for him after his injury by not making him pay back money after he clearly violated his contract by riding a motorcycle and then re-structuring his contract so that he could make back the money he lost through incentives was a great jesture of the faith we have in him. Now it's like a slap in the face for him to come back asking for his contarct to be re-negotiated.

For the life of me I can't understand why anybody deals with Rosenhaus, he's a chump.

Well, to be fair...Yes, we showed faith in him by not making him pay the money back and re-working his deal, but he has shown his worth for 2 straight years so I think he does deserve a new deal.

we gave him 2 years, he gave us 2 years. the slates clean, so he shouldn't get jack until at least next year.

the only downside would be that if he has another big year, then the money gets bigger.

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For the life of me I can't understand why anybody deals with Rosenhaus, he's a chump.

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You one of the best players in the NFL at your position, Rosenhaus is one of the best agents in pro-sports as far as getting ALOT of money for his clients.

You don't understand why players go to him?

Look, I don't like how alot of agents handle thier clients, but the object of their job is to make the MOST money they can for thier client (and therfore themselves) in the least amount of time they can do it. A professional athlete NEVER knows when his career may end on one play (see LeCharles Bentley). Especially in the NFL were contracts are not garunteed (sp?).

I too feel that Rosenhaus plays nasty with alot of teams, but I do understand WHY it's done..............I just don't like HOW it's done.

Updated yet again, but again, nothing really new:

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Inside Slant
No player on the Browns' roster, with the possible exception of LeCharles Bentley, has had more misfortune over the last three years than cornerback Gary Baxter.

Baxter signed a six-year, $30 million contract in March of 2005 to be the featured player in the Browns secondary. After three seasons, he has played in only eight of 48 games. A torn pectoral muscle in 2005 finished his season early. Both patellar tendons were torn in October of 2006 and Baxter has not played since.
But he is trying to play again, and the Browns have obliged. The Browns signed the hard-luck cornerback to a one-year contract, two weeks after Baxter entered the market as an unrestricted free agent.

The most frustrating part of Baxter's patellar is no contact was involved. He tore both tendons while attempting to jump and break up a pass. Both knees buckled; one foot never left the ground.

Baxter worked relentlessly after spending more than two months in a hospital bed. He defied the odds and made the 53-man roster last season, but he was made inactive during every game the first six weeks and then was put on injured reserve when it became evident he would not be ready to play in 2007.

"Gary has shown great determination in his attempt to come back and we feel this contract will give him the opportunity to do just that here in Cleveland," general manager Phil Savage said. "We look forward to having him at close to 100 percent by training camp."

Baxter never lost hope. When people last year told him he could not make it back, he turned those negative predictions into motivation. He was disappointed at first when he was put on injured reserve last year, but then he became determined to play in 2008.

"This is very important for me to sign a one-year deal here and to finish something I started," Baxter said. "This has been a long process, but right now everything is going well and I'm going to continue my quest to make history.

"Both Phil Savage and Romeo Crennel brought me back and that shows a lot of loyalty and respect on the Browns' behalf. They know how hard I've been working. I'm running and feeling good. I'm putting in everything I've got. Things are looking very positive."

Baxter, 29, has a chance to help if he can play. The Browns are looking for a fourth cornerback after trading starter Leigh Bodden to the Lions. The top three are Eric Wright, Brandon McDonald and Daven Holly.

Notes and Quotes
--The Browns' offseason strength and conditioning program began on March 17. Among the encouraging signs is Kellen Winslow Jr. is on schedule in his rehab following knee surgery last month.

--Center/guard LeCharles Bentley is rehabbing in Arizona rather than with his teammates at the Browns' complex in Berea, Ohio. The workouts are not mandatory, so the Browns cannot insist on Bentley being at team headquarters. Bentley has missed the last two seasons from complications stemming from a torn patellar tendon in training camp in July, 2006.
--The Browns are in the market for linebackers and they know Takeo Spikes well from his days with the Bengals, but Spikes is not high on their wish list at this point. Spikes was released by the Eagles after failing their physical because of a shoulder problem.

--The Browns are hopeful of being rewarded with a home Monday night game after finishing 10-6 last season. They have played on Monday night only once since their rebirth in 1999 -- a 26-20 home loss to the Rams on Dec. 8, 2003.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "Travis Wilson, Syndric Steptoe, (and) Steve Sanders -- I think those three will really be in a fight for that last (receiver) role and I think all three of them have been talked to about the competition that they're going to face in terms of trying to secure that final roster spot." -- General manager Phil Savage on the fate of 2006 third-round draft choice Travis Wilson.

Strategy and Personnel
Very quietly yet very deliberately, Browns owner Randy Lerner is working on a contract extension for general manager Phil Savage. Savage, currently signed through 2009, is working on his original contract.

Lerner stuck with Savage (and coach Romeo Crennel) when the Browns were 4-12 in 2006 after a 6-10 season in 2005. Now that the Browns appear to have turned the corner, Lerner wants to bring Savage's contract duration in line with that of Crennel. Crennel signed a two-year extension through 2011 last month.
"(Savage's) extension is simply to keep continuity at the Browns," Lerner said. "Since his arrival we have improved. He and Romeo deserve the credit for the development of the team and the performance that was achieved this last season. In that light, I'm eager to secure these guys for the long term."

In three-plus years on the job, Savage has just about turned the roster over completely. Only seven players remain from the team he inherited -- tight end Kellen Winslow Jr., safety Sean Jones, long snapper Ryan Pontbriand, linebacker Andra Davis, tackle Ryan Tucker, tight end Steve Heiden and kicker Phil Dawson.


TEAM NEEDS/OFFSEASON STRATEGY

The contract of inside linebacker Andra Davis was reduced from a deal that ended in 2010 to one that will make him a free agent after this season. Along with the reduction of length was the decision to reduce his pay from $3 million to $1.675 million in 2008. He will be able to earn some of the money back with incentives.

Outside linebacker Willie McGinest is entering the final year of his contract. His salary was reduced from $2.9 million to $1.9 million.

The decision to move on after 2008 without Davis obviously means the Browns are fazing him out. The move would leave D'Qwell Jackson and Leon Williams as the starters with no significant experience behind them.


1: Outside linebacker: The Browns invited free agent linebacker Clark Haggans for a visit on March 19. Coach Romeo Crennel wants a rush threat to complement right outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley. Travis LaBoy and Darryl Blackstock visited earlier before signing elsewhere. Depth is a concern after Chaun Thompson signed with Houston instead of re-signing with the Browns.

2. Inside linebacker: The Browns want a dominating inside linebacker to improve run defense, but it doesn't look like they will get that player this offseason. Newly acquired defensive tackles Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams should improve the defensive line. If they do, Andra Davis and D'Qwell Jackson should be more active near the line of scrimmage.

3. Cornerback: The Browns looked at free agent Bennie Sapp (Chiefs) in a visit. He would be a nickel or dime back at best if the Browns sign him. One starting job will go to Daven Holly or Brandon McDonald. Eric Wright is the left corner. The Browns are likely to take a cornerback with one of their four picks on the second day of the draft in the first three rounds.

I'd promote Steve Sanders in a heartbeat over Wilson and Steptoe.

I have to say that I also liked what I saw out of Sanders.

I don't remember him much at all.

Is his practice squad eligibility used up?

The whole Wilson thing is very strange indeed.

Have you heard something ?

If he's really heathy it could be a great pickup. For a history refresher...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Wilson

Wilson, playing as #56, became the anchor of the Broncos' defense and has earned 5 Pro Bowl selections since 2001. He is one of the fastest middle linebackers in the league, and is also very good in pass coverage. He passed the 100-tackle mark in each of the last five seasons, including 109 tackles (73 of which were solo) in 2004 to rank second on the Broncos. Wilson led Denver in tackles for the second consecutive year in 2003 with 128 tackles.

On December 3rd, 2006, Wilson suffered a neck injury during a punt return against the Seattle Seahawks during the Sunday night game. He was carted off the field and immediately taken to a hospital, but was cleared by the Denver Broncos to return the following week to help Denver try to make the playoffs.

The Denver Broncos signed many free agents during the 2007 offseason, such as Travis Henry and Patrick Ramsey, resulting in some salary cap trouble. The Broncos attempted to trade Wilson to the New York Giants, however Wilson failed his physical and the trade talks died down.

Wilson was released by the Denver Broncos on April 13, 2007 due to injuries and salary cap problems. He has been cleared to return to the NFL by Los Angeles back specialist Bob Watkins, and made his first visit of the offseason to the Detroit Lions on February 12, 2008.

Please tell me you know something.

Don't you go starting anything now...

Has he ever played a 3-4 D by the way?

I know that the Broncos 4-3 comes pretty close sometimes the way that they use their linebackers, but I'm just wondering.

I couldn't imagine that Wilson would have any trouble in the 3-4.
He is quick, strong, sheds blockers well and can run.
The only question is his health.
I think he would be an upgrade over Davis and would really help the run D.
JMHO though.

The year Denver went 13-3 the way they played their D was very close to a 3-4

Outside of Trevor Price, the D-line was there just to eat blocks, the linebackers really did most of the work because they were blindingly fast.

I don't think that Wilson will have any problem in a 3-4. I actually think he will be better in a 34. He is a big run stuffing linebacker which is perfect to be an inside guy for us. He would be a tremendous upgrade over Davis. I really hope we get him. He would really help our team.

Updated yet, again, not enough new IMO to make a new thread so................

Team Report: Inside Slant

Shaun Rogers has garnered most of the attention since the trading frenzy on the first day of free agency when Browns' general manager Phil Savage acquired Rogers and Corey Williams in separate deals. Rogers has been in the league longer and he is the proverbial squeaky wheel because of an up and down career with the Lions.

Williams will be every bit as important as Rogers in the revamped line. He is projected to take over from Orpheus Roye at left defensive end. He can rush from the inside when the Browns use a four-man line.
"I describe myself as a hard worker, a high-motor guy - a guy who loves the game of football, loves to get out and make plays and help my team win," Williams said. "This is an up and coming team and I wanted to be a part of it. I played 3-4 in college my first couple years, so (playing end) isn't too different for me."

The Browns went into free agency aggressively because they do not have a first-round pick in the draft, having traded it to the Cowboys last year so they could draft Brady Quinn. That did not stop Savage from dealing his second-round pick to the Packers.

Savage said giving up the 56th pick in the draft for Williams was worth it. Williams, entering his fifth season, had seven sacks in 2006 and seven more in 2007. The Packers gave Williams the franchise tag. Knowing no team would give them two first-round picks for him, the Packers agreed to trade Williams to the Browns. The Browns signed Williams to a six-year, $38 million deal with $16.5 million guaranteed.

"I knew there was going to be sacrifice involved, but in our estimation, a legitimate veteran defensive lineman who still has a lot of upside is a good fit for us," Savage said. "It's going to be tough to sit there and watch all these players come off the board, but now we can lower our gun sights and get to know those mid- to lower-level players a little better. Maybe we'll find a gem or two."

Adding Rogers and Williams transforms the defensive line instantly. Rogers would be the nose tackle in the 3-4 lineup. Robaire Smith would be the right end. Shaun Smith would be the backup nose tackle and left end. When the Browns go to a pass-rush alignment the down linemen could be Williams, Rogers, Robaire Smith and Willie McGinest with Kamerion Wimbley at right outside linebacker.

"Shaun Rogers is a great player," Williams said. "He played in the same division I played in when I was in Green Bay. He's the type of player that can easily take over a game. He plays hard and stays in the backfield."


Team Report: Notes and Quotes

--Derek Anderson is not letting his new fame and fortune make him into a different person than he was when he blossomed into one of the biggest surprises of the 2007 season. Instead, he left his offseason home in Oregon and is hard at work in the Browns' offseason program at team headquarters in Berea, Ohio.

"It's good to know that the contract is taken care of and that I'm coming back," said Anderson, who was a restricted free agent for a few hours on the first day of free agency. "I talked to my agent and made it clear that this is where I wanted to be."
--The Browns re-signed linebacker Kris Griffin to a one-year contract. Griffin was among the team leaders on special teams tackles until a knee injury cut his season short by four games. He still finished fifth with 14 special teams tackles.

--Former Browns running back William Green wants to return to the NFL. He was among the participants at the Boston College Pro Day workout. He ran a 4.65 40-yard dash.

--The Browns are eager to see the 2008 NFL schedule when it is released early next month. For nine straight years, ever since returning to the NFL, they have opened at home. They are 1-8 in season openers, and though they are riding a streak of seven straight home victories, opening on the road might be a good way to start the season.

--Andra Davis' tackle total dipped from 133 in 2006 to 104 in 2007. The 2002 fifth-round draft choice from Florida will be a free agent after next season.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "They (Detroit Lions) weren't happy with my services at the time and somebody welcomed with me with open arms. I'm just glad to be here." - Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers, commenting on the trade the Browns made to acquire him at the start of free agency.

Team Report: Strategy and Personnel


The Browns are not about to abandon their 3-4 defense, but as new defensive coordinator Mel Tucker continues preparing for the upcoming season he has the luxury of working with something his predecessor, Todd Grantham, did not have - defensive linemen who can get to the quarterback.

Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams will allow the Browns to play more four-man fronts than they have in the past. While adding Rogers and Williams, the Browns lost Simon Fraser to the Falcons in free agency and released Orpheus Roye. Roye had 0.5 sacks and Fraser none in 2007. Rogers and Williams each had seven for a net gain of 13.5 sacks.
Rogers and Williams should help the pass rush in another way when they line up at tackle. Their rush from the inside should open up rush lanes for the outside linebackers.

TEAM NEEDS/OFFSEASON STRATEGY

The Browns got some help at linebacker when they signed Shantee Orr to a one-year contract, but Orr does not fill the need of a pure pass rusher for the left side. He is regarded as a replacement for Chaun Thompson after Thompson signed with the Texans following four seasons with the Browns.

Orr, 6-1, 246 pounds, was waived by the Texans on Nov. 28 last season and picked up by Jacksonville. He played in a total of nine games for both teams in 2007 and totaled six tackles. He made the Texans' roster as an undrafted rookie out of Michigan in 2003.

"Shantee has experience as an inside and outside linebacker and has also played extensively on special teams," general manager Phil Savage said. "This signing will add to our depth and create better competition at these positions."

The Browns would be thrilled if Orr could repeat what he did with the Texans in 2005 when he played in all 16 games with 12 starts. He recorded 47 of his 89 career tackles and seven of his 10.5 career sacks that season.


1. Outside linebacker: Adding Shantee Orr to the roster does not address the need for a pass rusher to complement Kamerion Wimbley on the right side. Free agent and former Steeler Clark Haggans visited the Browns, among other teams, but signed with Arizona. Travis LaBoy and Darryl Blackstock visited earlier in free agency and also signed elsewhere.

2. Inside linebacker: Orr can also play inside linebacker, but once again he is not the dominant run stopper the Browns are seeking. They have not closed the door on former Bronco Al Wilson. Wilson visited the Browns in the early days of free agency and passed a physical. Heading into the offseason, improving the pass rush and stopping the run were made priorities.

3. Cornerback: The Browns reportedly made an offer to free-agent defensive back Benny Sapp, formerly of the Chiefs. But he signed with Minnesota. The Browns are set for starters with Daven Holly and Brandon McDonald




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I just realized that we pretty much swapped players with the Texans...

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I thought Eric Wright was one of the starters? Did he somehow drop down the depth chart?

Thanks, Bomber, I thought I had, but I guess work got in the way of my proofreading .

Ok thanks!

What's Wrong with you....Work getting in the way of posting????? Get your priorities straight!!!!!