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I heard something on NFL network yesterday....I only caught part of it but it was an interview with this loser where he said he would rather play for the arena league than the bengals....anyone else catch that interview?
No, I have Time Warner Cable and they don't think the NFL network is important.... Jerks!
If he said that, then Ocho is an idiot. plain and simple.
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Oh he said it Mr D. I heard that much....I just dont have a link or anything...and I was watching it on direct TV at my cousins house...sorry Time Warner is being obstinate. 
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Chad Johnson Is So Unhappy in Cincinnati, He Might Have to Consider the Arena League Posted Mar 18th 2008 12:20PM by Michael David Smith Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson is widely reported to be unhappy in Cincinnati, and he more or less confirmed those reports with an appearance on ESPN today: Johnson didn't come right out and say he wants to leave Cincinnati, but he didn't say he wants to stay, either, and he said when asked if he had talked to coach Marvin Lewis, "I haven't talked to anyone. I'm just enjoying the off-season." (He did, however, confirm that he had to be restrained by Lewis at halftime of a playoff game two years ago.) Johnson then talked about his desire to move into acting, saying he's going to star in some short films where he plays a character named Agent Ocho. Based on the one line he delivered as "Agent Ocho" in the interview, I'd advise him not to quit his day job. When asked about scoring his 50th career touchdown (he's currently at 49), Johnson said, "I don't know, man. I don't know what I'm going to do. Whatever it is and where ever I am, it's going to be something fun. You know what, I might be playing Arena ball. That's the route I might have to go." Link
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sorry Time Warner is being obstinate.
I'm not sure Time Warner's bladder control issues are relevant here.
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TY Jules..maybe it was ESPN news after all! 
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LOL...I think you have obstinate and incontinate confused....ok I have to stop here before DC jumps my butt for going into toilet humour!
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I think you have obstinate and incontinent confused
That happens all the time, and man, what a mess!
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Sorry Autumn,, I didn't mean to sound as if I was questioning you., I'm sure that's exactly what he said,, he's an idiot. As for Time Warner,, I'm kinda getting used to being treated like a second class citizen by them.. but soon, very soon, there will be changes. There is a very strong movement afoot in Ohio to allow Competition. As we speak, WOW or Wide Open West Cable is trying to get approved to supply to Aurora and other cities in the area. Others are applying and a great number of them are already approved. So it won't be long before Time Warner will have competition for my TV and High Speed Internet dollars... without the NFL Network, they don't stand a chance of retaining me as a customer. Not even a little chance..... I won't do a dish,, not is my area. Everyone that has one in my complex has to have cable also. Thier dishes keep failing anytime it's heavy overcast skies, or heavy snow or heavy rain.. This is OHIO,, that's all we ever seem to have 
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I don't know who Clifton Brown is, but I stopped reading right there. Too bad for Clifton that his second sentence was when his article stopped makin' sense.
Johnson's value was higher the past three seasons, well-before he became a radioactive turd.
Well, too bad one sentence did you in, because he makes some decent points. He didn't say it's never been higher, he said it will never be higher. Which I took to mean from here on out.
Not that I care whether you read it or not. I just think it's a bit silly to quit reading something because you don't agree with an early opinion.
The sad reality is that his trade value probably can't get much lower, which is another part of the problem with the article. Maybe if Chad Johnson would shut his trap, go out and play, THEN demand a trade when the Bengals won't take a cap hit, you'd find that his trade value would be higher.
Taking on a turd at his height of turdishness isn't the point where his value is at it's highest.
So why was his value higher before, and why did I point that out? Because while he was always a turd, he wasn't as disruptive as he is now. Simply shutting up and playing would make his value quite a bit higher.
Think about it.
So I did go back and read the rest of the article. I'm hardly surprised to read that Clifton comes from the side of the coin that says the Bungals should trade him now. The second they do that, the few other good players who are on the fence will want out. BYE-BYE TJ! Want a new contract? Just demand your way out! Don't like playing for the Cats? Be a turd and they'll move you!
The problem is that the Bengals have caved to players for several years now. That's what's landed them in this mess to begin with. At some point, you have to stop the bleeding and make a stand.
And that's why this author doesn't get it.
Turns out I should have stopped reading when I did.
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Anyone else think Chad faked that injury in the Bills game last season?
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No Toad actually Jules is right... So is the author of the article... For all the reasons direclty opposing your views here... You think about it... Take some good advice you gave out... Look at this from the other side or perspective... Before you just immediately go with opinion and postion on this...
He is only 30. He is hardly on the decline. He has nothing to prove to you me or anyone. He has played at a very high level for several years, he works hard, year round and has been a good team player. Just read what his team mates have said repeatedly about Chad for years... To use your turd phylosophy against you he has always backed his smack with his play and a year ago he played and turned his "talk" way down and where did it get him and or his team? Sorry man your schspeel doesn't wash...
Aren't the Bengals working with Whosyomomma in contract talks or didn't they just do a new deal???
Every team in the NFL has "caved in" to certain players... That business... Whether you believe or like it or not... Other than CP who has earned the right to take the position Ocho is? Have you seen CP's deal? There are alot of zero's as to why CP is not as vocal as CJ... That and that is just not who CP is...
That's why the author does get it...
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Oh he said it Mr D. I heard that much....I just dont have a link or anything...and I was watching it on direct TV at my cousins house...sorry Time Warner is being obstinate.
They had a bit of it on ESPN... and I heard that... my first thoughts were 'fine let him go play with them'. I'm curious on if he did go and play with the Arena League would that void his contract with the Bengals??
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Like 'Dub, I continually forget to copy my posts in case the "expired" failure shows up, so my post didn't make it.
Condensing it up into a very tight ball, I'll say that your arguements hold little merit as it pertains to Johnson.
His abilities on the field and efforts in the weightrooms don't keep him from being a turd. I can produce a statement that shows his teammates had a meeting to determine just how to handle him. Not exactly a glowing endorsement I can produce a quote from a strength trainer with the Bengals that says Johnson can't be anything but what he is, which means he can't help but be a turd. I can show you that just because he kept from talking to the media, it doesn't mean he turned his talk down. In fact, he took his team to task for losing to the Pats by calling THEM selfish  and that it didn't go over very well at all. Oh, I can produce positive quotes from teammates. Want to hear how Chris Henry, he of the 4 arrests and suspension says he's "like a brother to me." And correct me if I'm wrong (even though I know I'm not  ) but the Browns haven't "caved" to anyone recently, have they? How about the Pats? Two teams, two winning records. How about the Bengals? A losing team with a losing organization.
The Bengals have caved to Johnson for so long that he thinks he can do whatever he wants. That mentality by the organization has caused this problem. We took Edwards to task when he acted out of line. The Bengals did nothing to Johnson for years. Edwards is becoming a leader. Johnson has become a cancer.
Caving to Stinko now just sends the message that the inmates can run the prison.
I rest my case.
I'm very interested to see if Lewis finally has the stones to put his foot on the back of Johnson's neck and send the right message. Maybe then, they'll truly turn the corner and become an organization that players want to play for, not run from.
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I was actually comparing Edwards with Johnson earlier. It really does boil down to one thing...Leadership. Romeo (while still questionable with gametime stuff IMO) is an excellent leader of men. He will treat men like men, and refuses to put anyone above the team. Therefore when BE or KWII get out of line, he keeps it in house. I distinctly remember him having a meeting with K2 after he bashed Carthon, and I also believe he had a talk with BE after the 06 season. This organization refuses to let it get out of house. Where the Bengals are worried about whether their players are going after practice. In some cases character is truly better than talent, and it's starting to show as much in the contrast of the 2 Ohio teams. I think Johnson will ultimately be traded around draft day...just a hunch. For much less than what his talent would suggest (Moss went for what a 4th rd?). Mike Brown might be the second worst NFL GM right now. 3rd if you count Al Davis' senility.
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Typical Toad... And your views on this topic hold more merit than mine or others??? You rest your case far to prematurely around here... And as is the case far more than you realize you are off base and wrong on this topic as well. IMO Why is it that you feel your opinions on this hold no more merit than others here... wthdytya anyway...? Your just another know it all nobody just like the rest of us...  You stand corrected... And all your drivel and 's don't mean much... There is a reason Ocho has the contract and support from his organization from the head coach and staff to his team mates... His numbers speak for themselves... They speak volumes when compared to your opinions... I can produce a positive for every negative you can bring... So what... A losing team and organization is the reason 85 wants a fresh start... If you have watched his interviews and read his statements he has clearly stated its all about a change and fresh start somewhere else... The Pats and the Browns have both signed players to big contracts and have redone contracts... KWjr's contract talks are upcoming too... What is your exact definition of caved in? All teams step up for their playmakers and stars without exception... The speed of the team is the speed of the boss... Um.... huh... That would be Mr. Brown....Hum... There is the major portion of the problem... Banging on Lewis to show some stones when he can't pull the trigger is off base too... Sorry not buying what your so poorly selling… You have given no compelling reason too.
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If you have watched his interviews and read his statements he has clearly stated its all about a change and fresh start somewhere else...
Like the arena league? 
I will say this: there is a line between voicing displeasure and becoming an overdone distraction. I believe he's crossed to the latter.
BTW, aren't you the guy who says it's okay to disagree?
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Why is it that you feel your opinions on this hold no more merit than others here...
Just you Boise, just you  (Even though you couldn't quite put the right words together to make the sentence, I got the drift) Afterall, you believe that the west coast college football teams actually play defense. What else is there to say? *L*
Resting my case means I'm done making my points. Besides, you've been around these boards even longer than I have. If you're going to take insolent tones, don't be personally offended when you get'em back at ya. I sure don't 
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Thanks for saving me some typing, Boise. You are right on.  That being said, I think they'll keep him and he'll continue to disrupt the team. Marvin does not have what it takes to handle these kinds of players. And, it's exactly what I want them to do.
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Hmmm..they're a mess whether he's there or not..this team was supposed to be a powerhouse..and isn't..very similar to most Bungal teams of the past.
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You bet I'm one here who is all about disagreeing... It's great. Good point!
There is a difference between disagreeing and having a constructive discussion about why and being told you wrong among other things and then basing that solely on your opinion, arrogance and ego...
I agree that this type of thing should be handled differently between a player and team and vise versa... But that is not where the situation is and why we are discussing it... I believe that that has been a course of action that has been explored by the Chad and the Bengals... They are where they are... I don't think you'll read here that I ever wrote that I agree with the methods being used or with where the situation is overall. It's time for a fresh start for all involved.
The requote you used is more evidence that 85 wants to be somewhere else and just how bad he wants out.
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No problem.  I mostly read on here anymore, but sometimes... Some posters... If they do try and keep Ocho, for us as Browns fans this situation is a good thing! Any advantage we have especially in our division is a great thing! 
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Toad... Wow man you are sure full of yourself... Among other things... I chose my words. They are my words. They mean what they mean. You made your points, stated your opinions, perspectives and views. Not much more... What do the West Coast College teams have to do with anything? They do play defense, they have to because most Best coast college football teams run pro style offenses, so they have too... You should realize this, but you don't... I'm a life long OU fan... Most people here know that... So now what…? The arrogant tone and attitudes and misinformed views that you spew here, far more frequently than you should are the reason for my reply to you and the tone of the reply. It sucks getting what you give sometimes doesn't it? The Blue turf is awesome! It rocks! Huge home field advantage... This is a good thing. If you knew what you were talking about you’d know that too... I'm a Boise State fan because my son graduated from the honors college @ Boise State University with as close to a full ride as is available. So yes I’m proud of my son and Boise State for what they have done over the past 10 plus years… Take a look at where Boise State ranks nationally in Div. 1 from a running game stand point. They run the ball first… What is taking a toll on my CPU is your constant arrogance and continual verbal/written diarrhea...
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Anyone else think Chad faked that injury in the Bills game last season?
No, Chad might be an idiot off-the-field but on it he's a gamer. Thats why he's the way he is, he's ultra completitive. He might be selfish and about him but you can't deny he brings it every snap and doesn't give up.
On the right team he might be ok. Winning has a way healing all things.
No way he faked.
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There is a difference between disagreeing and having a constructive discussion about why and being told you wrong among other things and then basing that solely on your opinion, arrogance and ego...
You mean just like Chad?
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You mean just like Chad?
Be careful you dont have as many numbers under your name.
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The arrogant tone and attitudes and misinformed views that you spew here, far more frequently than you should are the reason for my reply to you and the tone of the reply. It sucks getting what you give sometimes doesn't it?
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This should have happened a couple of years ago.
I don't like the Bengals, I really don't like Ocho Stinko.
I think he is a team cancer like TO or some of the other me first players.
He thinks he is above the game and the coaches.
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Or something like this... "I will say this: there is a line between voicing displeasure and becoming an overdone distraction. I believe he's crossed to the latter." That would about cover it.
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HENRY CHARGED WITH ASSAULT
Posted by Mike Florio on April 2, 2008, 10:37 p.m.
As his former West Virginia University teammate Pacman Jones tries to get back into the NFL, Bengals receiver Chris Henry might be trying to get out.
According to media reports, Henry has been charged with assault. He allegedly was involved in a fight on Monday, and he faces counts of assault and criminal damaging.
An 18-year-old claims that Henry smashed his car windshield and punched him in the face. Henry says that it wasn’t him.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Henry for eight games in 2007, and reportedly put Henry on a zero-tolerance/last-chance arrangement.
Chad Johnson: Guilt by association. A turd is a turd is a turd.
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Listen to the turd himself in this interview.
"I have to do what's right for me"
Ocho Stinko Cheapo ESPN interview on video
GAWD he sounds like a petulant child......
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'Toad, I think that interview is really telling. You can tell the interviewer is getting frustrated with Johnson, rightfully so. The guy is just acting like he's above it all.
It's going to be really interesting to see how they deal with this.
It'll also be interesting to see if Johnson comes out with any comments on them releasing Henry.
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I find this somewhat intresting, Rich Rodriguez and his family values ?
No college program is without it's problem players, OSU have had a few of thier own, just find it odd two of his former players are in the negative headlines the same time one of his new players in leaving based on lack of family values ? & same time Rich is or was talking about having a family vaule based program.
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I can't believe Johnson would be dumb enough to subject himself to that kind of interview. Any fool knows that the professional media guy has the upper hand, and unless you REALLY REALLY REALLY know how to work an interview, you're going to come out looking like........well.........like Chad Johnson.
The one thing that I DID take from the interview is that while Johnson is being a spoiled, self-indulgent brat, he made some comments that pointed towards him playing for the Bengals, as opposed to sitting out.
This is nearly over. The only question that remains is how much more egg Johnson is going to splatter all over his face.
As for Henry, Johnson won't say a word. He'll profess his love for his former teammate, but he can't condemn either side.
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Well, I was just thinking that if CJ really wanted out of Cinci bad, it would be easy for him to come out slamming the team for releasing Henry. That may be enough for the Bengals to just want to cut ties wit him.
Just a thought...
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No, I think that would only make Chad look even more dumb-er-er and Marvin can continue laughing at what a pathetic excuse for a veteran leader he has on his team. They're not going to do anything to him before June 1st because of the cap hit they would take. He can make himself out to be the biggest idiot in the world, so long as it doesn't cost the Bengals money. He's trying to take them down with him and Marvin isn't taking the bait.
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Marvin was the bait...now he's trying to get back out of the pirannahs (sp?) mouth. Pick your pirannah.
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Marvin was the bait...now he's trying to get back out of the pirannahs (sp?) mouth. Pick your pirannah.
Coach Lewis needs to march into Mike Brown's office, smack him in the face, set fire to his desk blotter, and then make an ultimatum. "Either you cut Chad right now or fire me! Which is it going to be you stingy old fool?" Then after Brown fires Lewis rather than stand up to one of his players Lewis can go try to rehabilitate his career.
Why on Earth is Lewis sticking around? Is he as crazy as everyone else there? Has Mike Brown installed an explosive chip in his neck like the did Kurt Russell in "Escape from New York"?
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Why are they keeping him? :smirk.: :giggle: :smarmy remark:
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