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Did you hear the two parts where Chad asks............"is that it?" LOL

He was reluctant to expound on his answers, but he desires the attention so much that he couldn't accept that the interview was ending.

I hate saying this, but after watching him on the NFL network this weekend and hearing that interview, it sure sounds like Chad has some big time emotional/mental problems.

C'mon, how is he dead wrong?

Except for a good part of last year TO has acted like a turd for almost his entire career. All it gets him is bigger contracts.

While Chad will have to modify his behavior to "live" with the Bengals this year he's being kept more for cap issues than Lewis proving he has a hold on his team. Or the Bengals "seeing the light". If this were the dreaded uncapped year that may be just around the corner he'd be gone in a heartbeat.

And if the truth be told most of the people on here give Chad more grief than I would. I'd much rather have a guy like him than the career criminal that Chris Henry has become.

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Jeffry Dahmer wasn't such a bad guy when comparing him to Hitler, but that doesn't mean he's welcome at anyone's dinner table.......

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"Jeffrey Dahmer" and "dinner table" in the same sentence. And you made it work w/out being crude or juvenile.

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It's called not cutting off your nose despite your face.

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hahahahaha

Ummmm.......that's not it. It's called not cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Sorry couldn't resist.

You kill me......They're keeping Chad because they need receivers but they made this stand long before Chris Henry put his head up his ass so it's got nothing to do with the cap hit (if they just dumped him) and it's all about the need for WR's?

His act has gotten old but they're not keeping him because of his production but to "make a point"?

The price TO pays is filling out Change of Address cards so this means what? He's in danger of Carpal Tunnel?

So to sum up your response to me: Toad is right and Otto is wrong, so there.

Johnson says he won't attend team functions, demands trade

By John Clayton
ESPN.com

Updated: April 16, 2008, 2:25 PM ET

Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson left no room for doubt Wednesday: He wants out of Cincinnati as fast as possible and he doesn't plan on reporting for any future Bengal function -- mandatory or voluntary.

What spurred Johnson's immediate reaction was a statement made by quarterback Carson Palmer that indicated Johnson had told Palmer he would be at the team's mandatory minicamp in mid-June. Johnson said that wasn't true.

"I want to make this very clear,'' Johnson said Wednesday. "I don't know where he got that. I made no assertion to Carson that I would do that. Nothing has changed from what I've been saying for three months that I don't want to play for the Bengals.''

Johnson made one of his strongest statements in saying he is not planning on reporting to any team functions because he wants to be traded.

"I want to be traded before the draft, and if that doesn't happen, I want to be traded as soon as possible,'' Johnson said. "I don't intend on reporting to anything.''

Johnson is skipping the team's offseason workouts as he tries to push for a trade. But the Bengals have also made it clear that they have no plans of trading him.

The Pro Bowl wide receiver said he was surprised by Palmer's comments about his possibly reporting to mandatory camp.

"I wish he would stay out of my business,'' Johnson said.

John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3349761

I heard Dallas was interested. Could you imagine him and TO in the same locker room. That would be a coach's worst nightmare.

Johnson says he won't attend team functions, demands trade
By John Clayton
ESPN.com
Updated: April 16, 2008, 2:25 PM ET

Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson left no room for doubt Wednesday: He wants out of Cincinnati as fast as possible and he doesn't plan on reporting for any future Bengal function -- mandatory or voluntary.

What spurred Johnson's immediate reaction was a statement made by quarterback Carson Palmer that indicated Johnson had told Palmer he would be at the team's mandatory minicamp in mid-June. Johnson said that wasn't true.

"I want to make this very clear,'' Johnson said Wednesday. "I don't know where he got that. I made no assertion to Carson that I would do that. Nothing has changed from what I've been saying for three months that I don't want to play for the Bengals.''

Johnson made one of his strongest statements in saying he is not planning on reporting to any team functions because he wants to be traded.

"I want to be traded before the draft, and if that doesn't happen, I want to be traded as soon as possible,'' Johnson said. "I don't intend on reporting to anything.''

Johnson is skipping the team's offseason workouts as he tries to push for a trade. But the Bengals have also made it clear that they have no plans of trading him.

The Pro Bowl wide receiver said he was surprised by Palmer's comments about his possibly reporting to mandatory camp.

"I wish he would stay out of my business,'' Johnson said.

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Until now, I thought CJ was trying to get his face on ESPN more and/or skipping the offseason workouts. And he would eventually report for Game 1 with smiles and support for the team.

However, that last statement jumped out at me. "I wish he would stay out of my business". That's a big negative comment towards the QB. He could have said, "Carson must have confused something I said". Now that's he's attacking the QB, the fans, the coaches and the rest of the team might want him gone. We've all heard players say they'll skip workout programs, hold out until the season starts or demand to be traded before....but to also throw your QB under the bus, not just some other guy on the team, is another thing altogether. We'll see...

I think he needs to burn some more bridges. Yeesh.

Looks like he just upped the ante a little more on Marvin Lewis.

I hope the Bengals don't cave and keep him. Force him to retire or sit out the year.

If they decide to trade him, what teams do you think have the best shot?

Pittsburgh? My blood pressure spiked just thinking of it.

Any ideas?

I hope they do. It will make them weaker.

Gee Ocho, maybe Palmer would "stay out of your business" if you didn't make your business known to the WHOLE world.

It would have to be something absolutely ridiculous for the Bengals to trade him to someone in division. I mean, the Steelers would have to give them Hines Ward, Polamalu and their next 20 first-round picks. At least if I was the Bengals, that's what I'd need to trade him to the Steelers.

No, if he gets traded, I have a feeling it'll be to someone out of conference. He's a jerk, but the guy can play. I certainly won't mind not playing him.

But, I'm with PPE, I hope they don't trade him and force him to sit out or something.

Just how hard can Mike Brown screw this clown if he sets his mind to it? I see it reaching a point where it will get personal and Brown can be pretty hard-headed. If he could get out of paying CJ anything, guarantee a losing season, and blame it all on someone else, you can bet he'll do it. This would be a dream come true for Brown.

J.

What great situation for the Browns, either they keep Chad and he sits out the season. Or they trade him for draft picks that won't make the kind of impact he does. Plus this situation makes the Bengals look worse and worse. It's going to be tough in the locker room this summer, some guys on Chads side others with Lewis.

Either way, the Browns secondary doesn't have to deal with Chad twice a year and thats a nice break for us.

j/c

I think the end has come for Johnson with the bengals.... the bengals are going to need to address the situation. They can't keep this player on their roster this year. All they need to do is look at Phili and the TO thing for an example of what one player can do to disrupt a team. They run the risk of losing all value for Johnson the longer this thing drags on. The last thing the bengals would want to do is flat out cut him, again the TO thing.

Some say it is a huge cap hit to trade him now- that is all better for Brown. Money on the cap without actually spending the money. For a cheap owner- that is absolutely brilliant. If they can swing this into a post june 1 deal- don't know if he could be traded now and designated as such- the money thing is essentially a wash after looking at his contract amounts.

There are no shortage of teams that could use a solid #1 receiver. IF the bengals can get a late mid to low first round pick for Johnson, they should take it. IF they want the NFC teams- maybe the bears or vikes might bite. Dallas has two 1st rounders, too logical not to be concidered.

Its time for the bengals to cut their losses.

OF course, the best thing for the browns is that they just keep the guy, let the locker room implode and the season crash.

Funny how when the Bengals falter, Chad is no longer a happy camper.

He wants more money. If they gave him a new contract he'd shut his hole. Anybody who takes Chad's side on this is foolish. We've had a really crappy team for years, how would our fans react to one of our players doing this? They'd have a freaking fit.

I know we aren't supposed to talk about what we see on TV but I was watching and NFL show last night on ESPN.,. They talked about it and what was funny is that they thought the biggest issue was Chad beating up on Palmer in the press saying that Palmer should mind his own business..

I got kind of a kick out of that.

The guy has a solid receiver on the other side of him, he has a QB with a rocket launcher for an arm and he has a RB that can get the job done.. if he'd keep his pie hole shut and do his job, he has the team around him that could win a lot of games.,.

I agree with you Jules, anyone who takes his side in this is foolish...

There is no doubt that we all need and some seek changes in our lives...

I left an outstanding 6 figure job, for one for about 17 % less years ago... For one with a better enviornment and better overall fit for all involved...

I am and so is everyone else around me, much happier I did so...And my family and I are doing far better now, in all areas, than we ever imagined...

So "it's" not always about the money... So those of you who think its always all about the money... You are are all maroons... IMO...

Oh, I'm sure Chad just wants to be a better person. LOL. Sorry, but anybody who thinks this isn't about the money is....well, I won't name call like you do.

I dont think its about money or a new contract. IMO its about the Bengals not being a contender and not looking like being a contender in the near future.

Maybe Chad just wants to be traded to a place where he's respected and can find his true inner self......









Ok your right...never mind

Wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh said Thursday it would be best if the Cincinnati Bengals and disgruntled receiver Chad Johnson parted ways.


"If he's not traded it's going to be a problem." Houshmandzadeh told ESPN's Bob Holtzman.

Houshmandzadeh told ESPN he talked with both Johnson and quarterback Carson Palmer on Wednesday after Johnson demanded a trade from Cincinnati.

Houshmandzadeh said Johnson reiterated to him: "I'm not playing."

"I think eventually he'll show up, but then you have to worry about how much of a distraction he'll be," Houshmandzadeh told ESPN.

Johnson said Wednesday that he wants out of Cincinnati as fast as possible and he doesn't plan on reporting for any future Bengals functions -- mandatory or voluntary.

What spurred Johnson's immediate reaction was a statement made by Palmer that indicated Johnson had told the quarterback he would be at the team's mandatory minicamp in mid-June. Johnson said that wasn't true.

"I want to make this very clear,'' Johnson told ESPN.com's John Clayton on Wednesday. "I don't know where he got that. I made no assertion to Carson that I would do that. Nothing has changed from what I've been saying for three months that I don't want to play for the Bengals.''

Johnson made one of his strongest statements in saying he is not planning on reporting to any team functions because he wants to be traded.

"I want to be traded before the draft, and if that doesn't happen, I want to be traded as soon as possible,'' Johnson told ESPN.com. "I don't intend on reporting to anything.''

Houshmandzadeh told ESPN that Johnson spent most of the past few months not returning Palmer's phone calls. Houshmandzadeh said Palmer and Johnson have talked a few times recently.

Houshmandzadeh, who said he's talked to Johnson more this offseason than ever, revealed to ESPN that Johnson started talking about wanting out of Cincinnati during last season.

He said the Bengals are in a no-win situation.

"If we keep him and don't win, he'll tell everyone 'I told you so,' " Houshmandzadeh said.


That was per ESPN.

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"I think eventually he'll show up, but then you have to worry about how much of a distraction he'll be," Houshmandzadeh told ESPN.

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I wonder if Chad will tell hOOsh to stay out of his business

Or maybe Chad just has a screw loose because of this:

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So "it's" not always about the money... So those of you who think its always all about the money... You are are all maroons... IMO...

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Boise, I couldn't disagree more..

For me, you, and probably everyone else on this board, you are right about Money not being what it's always about.

At the very least, we work throughout HS, go to college, maybe even work during that time, get out of college, start a career at age 22 or so, and work until we are in our 60's. So for us civilains (read that as a non professional athelete) it's probably true. The difference in money isn't all that great.

But for a guy like Chad Johnson and other top players, the money thing is VERY VERY important. What's the average career in football... 4 or 5 years and that's it. So the money needs are magnified by a bunch.,

To a degree, I understand the money thing., I know they want more and more. My rub is that I can't understand why they sign a contract and just expect thier team to bend to thier demands for more money before the contract has expired.

That part bugs the crap out of me.. But wanting all the money they can get,, no no,, I do understand..

Now who's the Maroon

Defensive much...

You're sure about Ocho...? I'm not... Didn't insinuate I was... You have nothing to be sorry for, as far as I'm concerned... And it's not ALL about the $$$. Period!!! I doubt there is a single person here that would do anything anybody could ask of them for 25 million dollars…? If you are totally miserable for what ever reason, the money never matters… There are just certain things you won’t do for any amount of $$$...

Like other folks hear have written, who are far more intelligent than I... It's about ego, winning, not winning, not liking being on a sinking ship with little chance of survival...

Buy the way, do you ever watch cartoons? Bugs Bunny? That’s where maroon/s comes from... Bug's way of saying foolish...

I understand what you’re saying. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I don't agree with some... It's just too bad because millions of people including myself enjoy watching 85 play and carry on... At some point he'll get stale and he'll be gone... Hum...

We, you can't compare us to 85... We aren't him... Thank goodness... We have no idea what it's like to be him... Never will... None of us know about the money, (that kind of money), thing... We don't have his football gifts... He doesn't have our gifts... We don't have his $$$... We don't have his problems...

What is Ocho going to do or be when he's done with the NFL? I believe that is one of the things that is bothering him... He's starting to see what his future may or may not be when he's Not For Long anymore... People can't see their nose despite their face...


People and players alike try to get or get away with as much as they can... Enablers allow "this", "it" to happen... People give in or cater to stars, looks, talent, humor, excellence and production among other traits in all walks of life... That’s just the way it is... Like it or not.

Until next time...