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http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nflNFL | League approves communication for defenses Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:22:41 -0700 Mark Curnutte, of The Cincinnati Enquirer, reports NFL owners voted Tuesday, April 1, to approve a resolution to allow a communication device for a defensive player. Each offensive and defensive team will now be allowed to have one player on the field with a speaker in his helmet. The quarterback wears the speaker for the offense. The defense will now be allowed a speaker, and a backup helmet for another player. From nfl.com http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80781533
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I was able to find a picture of the new helmets: 
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Who do you think will wear it for us? Jackson? Davis?
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I would have said Davis before, but I'm willing to be it will be DQ this year. I'm guessing we'll be seeing him move into the captain's role, and I do hope we're able to find someone better soon to take Davis's spot (just a personal opinion).
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I wonder if any parameters are in place for when or how long the staff can communicate with the D??
I could see this throwing a bit of the balance the D's way.
I could see the staff getting in a late signal allowing a late shift of coverage.
If I was in charge, my FS would be the guy with the helmet.....you might be able to get the defensive backs into a advantageous position with a late call from the booth....at least alert the FS.
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When Davis is in he will probably have it. Willie is another possibility.
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Haha, that might not be a bad idea. That way, they could make sure Pool is always where he needs to be.
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It's gonna be harder to have it on D than on O. On offense the QB is always on the field, barring injury, so you know who has the earpiece.
On D you substitute more, and there isn't one player who is always on the field. It's gonna be tricky making sure you always have one player with the earpiece, but never have the second guy with the earpiece on the field at the same time.
Look at our team, Davis, DQ, and Williams rotate at ILB, so if you give your ILBs the earpiece you could have two players with an earpiece on at the same time, which is a penalty. Maybe a S would make the most sense, if you have a safety who is always on the field.
The coaching staff is gonna have to figure it out though and make it so they give the two players who can wear the earpieces are never on the field at the same time, while one of them is always on the field. So it's gotta be starter A who only comes off the field when player B comes in, and A and B never play together.
It's trickier on D than on O because of the lack of a player who is always on the field. Maybe Sean Jones or DQ? I'm sure our coaches can figure it out, but it's not a no-brainer.
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Well, you might be able to have both guys on the field at the same time, but only be allowed to communicate with one at a time. I don't know how they'd do that. Just thinking...
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I'd put money on Sean Jones being the one with the "Communication Device".
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I was going to say, your safeties don't usually rotate, and they are middle of the field players.
I really don't think the MLB would be the best choice.
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I wonder if any parameters are in place for when or how long the staff can communicate with the D??
I could see this throwing a bit of the balance the D's way.
I could see the staff getting in a late signal allowing a late shift of coverage.
If I was in charge, my FS would be the guy with the helmet.....you might be able to get the defensive backs into a advantageous position with a late call from the booth....at least alert the FS.
Wouldn't the offense have the same advantage though? I would think a QB would be at much more of an advantage with an OC overlooking the defense and telling him where to make his reads.
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It will have to be someone on the field every down, so it really boils down to Kam, DQ(if he can play 3rd down next to Leon Williams), and Sean Jones.
Personally I think DQ should wear it.
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It kinda makes me wish once more that we still had Brian Russell. I think he'd be perfect.
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I remember reading somewhere that there is a timetable communitcation through the earpiece. I believe it is dead after teh first 15 or 20 secs, the last 20 seconds in the playclock there is no communication through the earpiece. Don't know about the times exaclty, but I do think they get cut off after a little bit.
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I remember reading somewhere that there is a timetable communitcation through the earpiece. I believe it is dead after teh first 15 or 20 secs, the last 20 seconds in the playclock there is no communication through the earpiece. Don't know about the times exaclty, but I do think they get cut off after a little bit.
I always wondered that, just figured it was when the offense broke the huddle, the comms shut off.
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They already have a speaker.
The qb can't change things once the motion of the play starts.
A defensive coach could tell the FS pass or run at the last instant. Maybe soon enough to get both safeties tipped.
Again....pre-snap....say after a audible....1-2 guys knowing pass or run could make a huge difference.
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No the coach can not communicate with the QB at the LOS at all. It is a on a timer or it is cut off as soon as QB approaches LOS. The coaches cant sit there and tell the the QD to change his read at the line or anything like that.
I am thinking putting this on a LB would not be a good idea since they specialize quite a bit. I think maybe Sean Jones would be a good choice.
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I'm guessing Davis or Jones....
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OK...that sort of answers my original question about parameters on when it could be used.
It would probably be the same for both sides.
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its gotta be jones.... he played every defensive snap last year for us.... the LBs rotate way too much
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So...is Bill Belleyache gonna have to employ a transmitter/receiver geek to steal defensive signals now?
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No the coach can not communicate with the QB at the LOS at all. It is a on a timer or it is cut off as soon as QB approaches LOS.
I believe that the QB helmet radio is turned off by the league when there are 15 seconds left on the play clock or the players approach the line of scrimmage.
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Haha, that might not be a bad idea. That way, they could make sure Pool is always where he needs to be.
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Man in this day and age why does it have to be so darn complicated? You telling me that EVERY D player can't have one but only one can work at a time?
Sometimes the NFL is stupid. This may be one of those times. Heck put some tag in it that shows up, pay a guy to watch the dots. How many are on the field? More than 2? (QB and a D player) throw a flag!!!! I mean how hard is it?
Now that I'm on my soapbox, why not a tag in each end of the football too? And a way to see if it cross's the goal line or not? I mean they can catch you stealing a stick of gum but we can't tell if it was a TD or a Fieldgoal?? C'mon.
Bah. There has to be a better way than that stupid green dot. I HATE The green dot.
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I'd say that this idea is loooonnnnnnnnnnnnng overdue!! Now, if they can get the officials tocall offensive P.I more, then things would really be fair. 
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No the coach can not communicate with the QB at the LOS at all. It is a on a timer or it is cut off as soon as QB approaches LOS.
I believe that the QB helmet radio is turned off by the league when there are 15 seconds left on the play clock or the players approach the line of scrimmage.
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Dungy also said he doubts the new rule will eliminate completely the practice of signaling in defensive plays from the sideline. Under NFL rules, radio communication to players on the field must stop when the play clock reaches
15 seconds. Dungy said offenses likely will delay making substitutions at times until just before that mark, meaning defensive coordinators will then likely use signals to adapt to offensive personnel.
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Haha, that might not be a bad idea. That way, they could make sure Pool is always where he needs to be.
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I have a scanner that is designed especially for listening to the team communications at a NASCAR race. I wonder if it would be possible to pick up the play callers signal? Thats would definitely make the game more interesting.
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I have a scanner that is designed especially for listening to the team communications at a NASCAR race. I wonder if it would be possible to pick up the play callers signal? Thats would definitely make the game more interesting.
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The signals for both the O and D are encrypted signals, only the receiver can hear what is being said. If it was possible to do what you mention, don't you think belicheck would have someone with a scanner, heck most teams would, so they can hear the calls.
Although I do agree it would be interesting to hear the calls, the NFL wouldn't let that happen. What they say about an upcoming play is far more important than anything nascar has to say, (Strategy-wise).
My guess is that Sean Jones will be our primary guy, since he was one of only 35 non-linemen to play every snap of his teams plays.
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I have a scanner that is designed especially for listening to the team communications at a NASCAR race. I wonder if it would be possible to pick up the play callers signal? Thats would definitely make the game more interesting.
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I was wondering the same thing. I am sure they are encrypted though or else the Pat's would have thought of this already 
I know my digital scanner picks up CBS's trunked system but I never could find any on the field communications frequencies.
This reminds me, I have to get my scanner back on the web.
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