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Link YORK, Pa. - A 2-year-old girl died after being beaten with a video game controller by her mother's boyfriend, police said Tuesday. Darisabel Baez's mother overheard the beating Sunday but did nothing until she realized the girl was unconscious, police said. The girl was pronounced dead late Monday at Hershey Medical Center, police Lt. Ron Camacho said. Homicide was added to the list of charges against Harve L. Johnson on Tuesday; he was already in jail on counts including aggravated assault and reckless endangerment. The girl's mother, Neida E. Baez, was charged with endangering the welfare of a child. It was clear from the bruises and other injuries on the little girl's body that Sunday was not the first time she had been abused, Dauphin County coroner Graham Hetrick told WGAL-TV. He said it was one of the worst cases of child abuse he has ever seen. Baez, 19, called for an ambulance Sunday and said Johnson had brought the unconscious child to her, limp and wet from an attempt to revive her in a bathtub, a police affidavit said. Johnson, 26, acknowledged beating the girl with a video game controller but did not say why, police said. Baez said Johnson had abused the girl in the past and that she heard the girl scream after Johnson beat her Sunday, according to the affidavit. Detective Dana Ward said Baez was charged because she did not intervene or try to get help for Darisabel. Johnson and Baez remained in custody Tuesday. His bail was set at $200,000; hers was $25,000. Through police, family members declined requests for interviews Tuesday. Court officials said they did not know whether Johnson and Baez had lawyers to speak for them. ******************* What in the HELL is wrong with people??  This so-called Mother and her boyfriend should have NO bail...send them straight to prison. I wish I could get my hands on them...
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Too many sad stories today  Poor thing. He should get his ass beat just the same. Eye for an eye. Our justice system is weak to say the least.
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Too many sad stories today Poor thing.
He should get his ass beat just the same. Eye for an eye. Our justice system is weak to say the least.
Don't worry, when he gets sent to prison, he will get whats coming to him. For all the animals and sick people in prison, one thing that even most of them can't stand is hurting or killing a child.
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Too many sad stories today Poor thing.
He should get his ass beat just the same. Eye for an eye. Our justice system is weak to say the least.
Don't worry, when he gets sent to prison, he will get whats coming to him. For all the animals and sick people in prison, one thing that even most of them can't stand is hurting or killing a child.
As he deservedly should.
As long as they don't videotape it and put it on Youtube. 
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Don't worry, when he gets sent to prison, he will get whats coming to him. For all the animals and sick people in prison, one thing that even most of them can't stand is hurting or killing a child.
Yeah they are just such nicccccce and upstanding people....really doing society a favor 
Yeah more killing is the answer...why not just let prisoners become guards that way they could deal out all the social justice 
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Oh hell yes this guy will get his in prison. The yard will be an unpleasant place for him each day...as it should be.
He can't receive enough pain and torture for the rest of his life to make up for what he did. But I would like to see someone try.
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Oh hell yes this guy will get his in prison. The yard will be an unpleasant place for him each day...as it should be.
He can't receive enough pain and torture for the rest of his life to make up for what he did. But I would like to see someone try.
Yeah lets let the prisoners be the judges, the jury, and the executioners
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Don't worry, when he gets sent to prison, he will get whats coming to him. For all the animals and sick people in prison, one thing that even most of them can't stand is hurting or killing a child.
Yeah they are just such nicccccce and upstanding people....really doing society a favor
Yeah more killing is the answer...why not just let prisoners become guards that way they could deal out all the social justice
Since I quoted a pathetic thought I must end with a quote that isn't and one that, Andra needs to read...then re-read...then re-read
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Before you tell me to re-read something, maybe you should do the same. I never once said that are nice upstanding people. But, I feel this guy deserves whatever he gets, and then some, and most prisoners don't take hurting or killing a child lightly.
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I think you didn't read the quote or you didn't understand it...one of the two
Anyway let me get this straight....in your warped world they are doing society a favor right? They are dishing out social just right?
You hoping for the death of an inmate by another inmate makes you no better than the criminals who would commit such acts.
Besides how about those so called child molesters who get beat by other inmates and sometimes killed and then it turns out they were falsely accused? Yeah real social justice there...
**EDIT**----How about we leave social justice to the judges and jury's and not the CRIMINALS
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I think you didn't read the quote or you didn't understand it...one of the two
Anyway let me get this straight....in your warped world they are doing society a favor right? They are dishing out social just right?
You hoping for the death of an inmate by another inmate makes you no better than the criminals who would commit such acts.
Besides how about those so called child molesters who get beat by other inmates and sometimes killed and then it turns out they were falsely accused? Yeah real social justice there...
**EDIT**----How about we leave social justice to the judges and jury's and not the CRIMINALS
I read the qoute, and understand it perfectly fine. But I also don't completely agree with it. Killing a completely innocent 2 year old girl and beating or killing the guy who admittedly did the act are 2 completely different things. I also don't completely agree that he should be killed, but I am perfectly fine with him getting beat within an inch of his life.
As for social justice, I personally don't feel sticking a needle in a guys arm and letting him peacefully die is justice. I don't feel that leaving a guy in prison for life is justice. That is what our system will do with him. Our system has a lot of flaws, though it is a pretty good system as a whole. I just feel that a lot of times the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
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Loki, this guy beat a defenseless child to death with a game controller!!! And you're telling me you want him protected from other prisoners? For what?
While I can't say I embrace the fact that prisoners beat down other prisoners that hurt kids...but it also makes me feel that there is a level of justice for these demons. To some degree, I think it may help prevent other crimes against kids.
Like A54D said, if it goes on behind the scenes...then fine by me. This guy deserves to be beat down by a guy 300 times stronger than him (just like he was compared to that little girl).
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Eh, that's a misquote...to a degree. It's in the same spirit as Nietzsche said it.. but he left a little wiggle room in the actual statement. It should actually read closer to: "whoever fights with monsters should see to it that he doesn't become a monster(/add to monsters)."
It's a warning to be careful, but not necessarily to avoid fighting "monsters" altogether.
If a bear (monster) attacks my children, and I battle that bear to safe them, am I wrong? No! It would be silly to think so. But I shouldn't then go throughout the countryside slaughtering bear cubs to prevent future attacks.
Plus, I don't think this guy is going to be suddenly found innocent due to DNA some day.. 
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Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird.
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Loki, this guy beat a defenseless child to death with a game controller!!! And you're telling me you want him protected from other prisoners? For what?
I am going to sound completely cold and emotionless here trust me I am not but for the sake of argument...People die everyday...Like the soldiers in Iraq...like Fireman and Policeman, like people who die driving to work...Is one death more valuable than another? Is that little girl's life worth more than my mom's or your wife's/family member? Seriously is that little girl's life worth more than the countless number of people who die everyday? If so I am extremely interested in your response...
No matter what happens to that man, no matter how despicable he may be, she will never come back..She is dead...Why should society bend the rules for one death (a child murder) and not for another (let's say you had a murdered family member)? I mean if you are going to allow prisoners to to torture and kill some inmates then why shouldn't all inmates enjoy the same treatment? Either all murders should be subject to inmate justice or none of them should ...see my point?
I mean you are excerising your bill of rights right now...freedom of speech right? Why shouldn't he be allowed his bill of right of freedom from cruel and unusual punishment? Before you say well the govt. wouldn't be doing the torture..etc which I agree with however, the govt. would allow it to happen which is aiding and the govt. convicts people all of the time of aiding criminals....The govt. should be held to the same standard that it holds its citizens to.
Also if you believe he should have no right to be free of cruel and unusual treatment, then you shouldn't have any right to freedom of speech..
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While I can't say I embrace the fact that prisoners beat down other prisoners that hurt kids...but it also makes me feel that there is a level of justice for these demons. To some degree, I think it may help prevent other crimes against kids.
You don't agree with it but you think there is justice in it....? Yeah that makes a ton of sense right there...If there is justice in it then you obviously agree with it...You can't dislike it but believe there is some good in it...Its like me saying well I really dont like the devil but man he sure brightens my day...
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Like A54D said, if it goes on behind the scenes...then fine by me. This guy deserves to be beat down by a guy 300 times stronger than him (just like he was compared to that little girl).
Well I guess ignorance is bliss..
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Bradmass....You are acutally incorrect...I hope I am not just telling you this...Friedrich Nietzsche wasn't English and therefore did not write in English...He was German and therefore wrote in German...I assume you do not speak German because that is a very crappy translation you just quoted....
You realize unless you read the original text in the original language you can not truly understand the meaning...FYI...
The version you quoted is viewed historically as a layman's definition...notice how simple and easy it appears....When in real life most philosophers are cryptic including Friedrich Nietzsche
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Lol sorry, I know the man was German! The crappy translation was pretty much mine. I'll admit that German isn't my best language.. I actually added the German to the bottom of my post. Not trying to be all that argumentative, but could you point out the differences between my translation and the original? (And maybe point out how your quote is more correct?)
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Sorry to keep editing etc.. but unless you show me otherwise, I'm going to be a little less apologetic about my translation. Granted, I'm less of a Nietzsche expert than I am a german "expert." But I still think mine is closer to the actual German quote. He doesn't specifically say "Don't fight monsters," or "Battle not monsters." I'll admit that there MAY be more in the overall context that I'm missing... but as far as the actual German to English translation goes.. I still lean towards mine.
And regardless of ALL of what he said... I still stand by my "bearfighting" analogy. A bear might as well be a monster to my family, would fighting it mean I am also a monster?
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To an extent the definitions aren't that different in my opinion...However a bear is not considered a monster in my opinion..A bear is an animal acting on instinct..Bear's aren't evil...A monster is someone/something that is evil...malicious
Think it more in the context of undercover cops...If you continually agree with or are around "monsters" all the time then you will eventually become one..That's how I take the quote.
I think in your version it is possible to battle monsters and still not become one...In my version there is no hope, and once you begin battling with monsters you slowly become one...
That's how I see it...
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To an extent the definitions aren't that different in my opinion...However a bear is not considered a monster in my opinion..A bear is an animal acting on instinct..Bear's aren't evil...A monster is someone/something that is evil...malicious
Meh, I'd say "a bear in the hand" is 100 times more the monster than Dracula is in my dreams. Frankenstein's Monster wasn't evil... folklore/movies are full of things we call monsters that aren't exactly evil. I used bear as an example because it is something that is a bit more tangibly threatening to a family. But I guess I could've said Dracula, or Wolfman. I'm still going to fight them.. and that doesn't automatically make me a monster. Killing everyone in town in their sleep because they MIGHT be a vampire or Wolfman would mean that I have let myself become a monster. But actually fighting a vampire? Not necessarily.
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Think it more in the context of undercover cops...If you continually agree with or are around "monsters" all the time then you will eventually become one..That's how I take the quote.
I think in your version it is possible to battle monsters and still not become one...In my version there is no hope, and once you begin battling with monsters you slowly become one...
That's how I see it...
Well from the original German quote, I'd still say it'd be truer to take it more of a warning to undercover cops that AS they fight crime, they don't become what they are fighting. Not as a declaration that the cops shouldn't attempt to fight crime. Again, there may be more context that I haven't seen... but from the quote.. it is more "Whoever fights.. " or "as one fights..." not "Don't fight."
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Sorry to keep editing etc.. but unless you show me otherwise, I'm going to be a little less apologetic about my translation. Granted, I'm less of a Nietzsche expert than I am a german "expert." But I still think mine is closer to the actual German quote. He doesn't specifically say "Don't fight monsters," or "Battle not monsters." I'll admit that there MAY be more in the overall context that I'm missing... but as far as the actual German to English translation goes.. I still lean towards mine
Also you can't go by just the translation..You can't just plug the german words into an english translator then go presto....It's a lot more complicated than that...For example translate Yippee Kayah into german for me...(The line from Die Hard)
I am not a Nietzsche scholar so in order for me to do that I would have to have you go buy or go to a library and get a lot of Nietzsche books, translations, scholar's opinions...etc ....do you want to do that?
I really don't trust stuff of the internet for the most part....So I don't want to bombard you with a bunch of sites with the translation I used..
To your Dracula example...the quote is not Battle not with monster...it is actually battle not with MONSTERS...notice the S?
That S makes all the difference...There is no set number for you to become a monster...its ambiguous (Remember the cryptic speak) All we can actually infer from that line is that he intended for it to be more than 1 monster...
If you became a monster hunter, eventually you yourself would become one...That's how I see it
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...People die everyday...Like the soldiers in Iraq...like Fireman and Policeman, like people who die driving to work...Is one death more valuable than another? Is that little girl's life worth more than my mom's or your wife's/family member? Seriously is that little girl's life worth more than the countless number of people who die everyday? If so I am extremely interested in your response...
This is a little 2 year old girl that couldn't defend herself like the many people you had down here.Yes her life is worth more because she is supposed to be protected from morons like the guy who beat her with a game controller enough to kill her.And shame on her mom for not stepping in.
Kids are my weak spot and I have no pity on anyone who harms them.You can think what you want to about me it really doesn't matter,but I would like to have 10 minutes alone in a room with this guy.
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This is a little 2 year old girl that couldn't defend herself like the many people you had down here.Yes her life is worth more because she is supposed to be protected from morons like the guy who beat her with a game controller enough to kill her.And shame on her mom for not stepping in.
Ummm how about the bombs/bullets that are dropped by our country that kill children...Say what you want but no bomb is "smart". I am not saying it happens everyday or every month...but it has happened
How about the 2 year old who died in a car crash cause of a drunk driver? Why shouldn't the drunk driver be held to the same standard?
I mean I can go on and on if you don't see the point...
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This is a little 2 year old girl that couldn't defend herself like the many people you had down here.Yes her life is worth more because she is supposed to be protected from morons like the guy who beat her with a game controller enough to kill her.And shame on her mom for not stepping in.
Ummm how about the bombs/bullets that are dropped by our country that kill children...Say what you want but no bomb is "smart". I am not saying it happens everyday or every month...but it has happened
How about the 2 year old who died in a car crash cause of a drunk driver? Why shouldn't the drunk driver be held to the same standard?
I mean I can go on and on if you don't see the point...
Because those other deaths were accidental. They are horrible either way, and I think drunk drivers that kill people should be punished harsher, but this guy physically beat a 2 year old to death with his own hands.
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I have no pity on drunk drivers either.Just lost a close friend last month to an idiot that was driving under the influence.This was his third time.I blame our judicial system on a lot of that problem.
I see your point that it's gonna happen and there's not to much that we can do to stop it,but I find it a little hard to have pity on someone who puts their kid in a microwave, burns them with scalding water,rapes them, and I could go on and on if you don't see my point.
Like I said,kids are my weak spot and no one will ever change my mind concerning these animals.EVER !!!!!
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You said it better than Neitzche ever could have.
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Also you can't go by just the translation..You can't just plug the german words into an english translator then go presto....It's a lot more complicated than that...For example translate Yippee Kayah into german for me...(The line from Die Hard)
That's not the same in the least.. While Nietzsche may have been speaking a bit cryptically, he was pretty much using actual German words. And yes, I know how things have to be taken contextually.. But you don't always have to have the entire context to know what the quote means. Separating a quote from it's context and translating it does not automatically make it incomprehensible to a reader or different from it's original meaning.
You would've been more correct to ask me to translate "If music be the food of love, play on," or "a rose, by any other name would still smell as sweet." Both are taken from their context. But even after translation into German, the meaning is not lost. And most Germans would be able to tell what they were talking about. (Heck, a German would probably understand "wherefore are thou Romeo" better than the average American.. since in their translation, they would find that "wherefore" meant "Why" and not WHERE!" -sorry.. pet peave) 
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I am not a Nietzsche scholar so in order for me to do that I would have to have you go buy or go to a library and get a lot of Nietzsche books, translations, scholar's opinions...etc ....do you want to do that?
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I really don't trust stuff of the internet for the most part....So I don't want to bombard you with a bunch of sites with the translation I used..
To your Dracula example...the quote is not Battle not with monster...it is actually battle not with MONSTERS...notice the S?
That S makes all the difference...There is no set number for you to become a monster...its ambiguous (Remember the cryptic speak) All we can actually infer from that line is that he intended for it to be more than 1 monster...
If you became a monster hunter, eventually you yourself would become one...That's how I see it
But he doesn't say that! He doesn't say "you will become one" or any version of that! The "s" in monsters is not the most important aspect of the quote. I agree that he is talking about monsters in plural both at the beginning and end of the phrase.
I will admit that (as you have yourself) I am not an EXPERT. My argument might not have the full context.. but it is NOT mistranslated.
The original German quote, literally, broken down...(there is nothing really cryptic about the translation itself, honestly):
"Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft," Whoever with monsters fights/Whoever fights with monsters
"mag zusehen", Like to watch /should watch out/beware
"daß er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird." That he doesn't thereby to the Monsters become.
I think the "mag zusehen daß er nicht" is the important difference. "should beware That he doesn't." That is pretty straightforward. If he were going to say what you stated.. it would've been something along the lines of "Kampf nicht mit Ungeheuern." (Fight not with monsters.) Oder dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. (or you thereby will become a monster)
My translation is right. The quote is NOT "Don't battle monsters or you will become one." The quote IS "Whoever fights monsters should watch that they don't become monsters" or any variation that still includes the "watch that they don't be come monsters."
I will allow for the quote possibly being taken out of context... but I will not agree that your translation of the original German quote is equal to or better than mine.
Anyway, I'm tired and I'm pretty sure nobody but the two of us care THAT much about the translation of the quote anyway 
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Good reply Brad. I was waiting for an actual breakdown of the translation to decide for myself.
Loki, your idealistic attitude toward punishment is to be admired, but it's misguided. Taking the type of approach your talking about with Nietzsche leads to the inmates running the asylum or letting people who would bully others run free because they dont want to fight back and "become like them." There's nothing wrong with defending oneself against "monsters" otherwise they take over. Pacifism met with aggression is beaten 100% of the time.
Its one thing for a man to kill a man, but another for a man to kill a toddler. A person who does this is different than a normal murderer. He admitted to beating the child, an autopsy will reveal that she died of trauma due to impact. He didn't do it on an accident, he did it purposefully with the intent to harm. In my opinion he is the worst kind of scum, and exactly the type of person this world needs protected against. If this were to occur in a public place, where someone has beaten a child unconscious and continuing on, they would probably be killed by an angry mob. Your argument says that the punishment is cruel and unusual, he didn't have his time in court before the mob got to him. I think that it's justice. A panel of peers saw this act and decided on the spot.
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revive her in the bathtub?? with water in it?
Sounds more like a drowning.
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Somthing just dosent go here....What mother in the right mind,that heard her child scream, would not come running in to see what was going on!????????? She is just as guilty!
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I'd really like to see the statistics on mothers who's boyfriends harm or kill their children. I seem to see and hear a lot of it. These mothers are so starved to have their egos and inferiority complexes fed by having a man that they are willing to put their own childrens' lives in danger to feed it. They disgust me as much as these losers they shack up with.
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the sad part is, tax payers have to pay to house and feed him for the next 50 years, then he'll probably be free.
or we could just pull out the death penalty? is that still even used? this seems like a good time.
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Somthing just dosent go here....What mother in the right mind,that heard her child scream, would not come running in to see what was going on!????????? She is just as guilty!
The fact that the Mothers says it's happened before is what really gets me...
DO SOMETHING TO SAVE YOUR CHILD, BITCH!!
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Somthing just dosent go here....What mother in the right mind,that heard her child scream, would not come running in to see what was going on!????????? She is just as guilty!
The fact that the Mothers says it's happened before is what really gets me...
DO SOMETHING TO SAVE YOUR CHILD, BITCH!!
What and lose all that income from his drug dealing. 
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You know ... stories like this really make me think we should offer government funded optional sterilizations.
Sure, it's sort of against my religion, and yes it would cost a bit at first ... but think of all the long term benefits: You wouldn't have idiots like this reproducing. You wouldn't have to worry about abortions. You could do away with more welfare for people who can't afford children. The public school system would improve drastically because it would be full of kids with parents that don't care. Etc.
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Babies having babies...the "mom" is 19, I believe, and the little girl was 2. The boyfriend is 26. He was probably beating the "mom" as well.
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j/c Here's a story that disgusts me that is VERY local to me. Same city etc. This boy was the first baby of 2008 in Summit County. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Carney can be reached at 330-996-3576 or jcarney@thebeaconjournal.com. On Good Friday, with three generations gathered around the hospital crib of Camryn Jakeb Wilson, the 21/2-month-old baby's mother made the hardest decision of her life. She and her family were told by doctors at Akron Children's Hospital that Camryn had no brain function, could not survive on his own and would be on a feeding tube the rest of his life. So, Crystal Wilson authorized ending Camryn's life support. ''I am proud of her for thinking of him above herself,'' said Laura Twiddy, Crystal's mother and the baby's grandmother. Twiddy, 44, a home health aide, said the life support was removed Tuesday evening from the baby, who suffered severe brain damage and other injuries. At 8:17 p.m., less than three hours later, Camryn died. He had suffered a fractured skull with severe bleeding in the brain and four broken ribs, Twiddy said. Camryn was featured in a Beacon Journal story on Jan. 2 as the first area baby born in the new year. His father, Craig Wilson, 28, entered a not guilty plea to a charge of murder late Wednesday morning in Cuyahoga Falls Municipal Court. Wilson initially was charged with assault and child endangering after the baby was taken to the hospital on March 12 with ''severe head and bodily injuries,'' authorities said. Police said Camryn was in his father's care in the family's Cuyahoga Falls home when the injuries occurred. While awaiting his arraignment before Judge Kim Hoover, Wilson covered his eyes and wept. He waived a preliminary hearing, sending the case straight to a grand jury. Bond was set at $250,000 cash and Wilson was taken to the Summit County Jail. Jon Sinn, Wilson's lawyer, said his client plans to ''cooperate fully'' with prosecutors and police. Sinn said Wilson was ''devastated'' by Camyrn's death and has the support of the family. ''This is a very difficult time,'' Sinn said. ''The family appreciates the support the community has shown.'' Sinn said Wilson has ''a desire to bring closure to this situation for the family as quickly as possible and to that end we are working toward a resolution.'' 'Not denying blame' Sinn said Wilson ''is not denying blame for this. We are asking for consideration . . . This is a young man who has taken responsibility for his actions.'' Sinn said Wilson voluntarily turned himself in to Cuyahoga Falls police Wednesday morning after letting the police know the day before that the child had died. He said Wilson ''is not good. He is devastated.'' Doctors ''told Crystal there was no hope,''and after the life support was removed, Crystal held her child and family members held hands and prayed, Crystal Wilson's mother said. ''I have to say he just snuggled up to her, it seemed,'' Laura Twiddy said. ''He was so peaceful. He truly looked like he was asleep.'' Twiddy, who lives in Doylestown, said doctors at Children's called Wilson ''one of the most unselfish people'' because of her decision to end life support based on the extent of the injuries. 'Dedication' service ''She consulted both sides of the family and we all agreed that it is not a life we would want for him,'' she said. Crystal Wilson, 26, is a Kenmore High School graduate who works at the Graham Road Animal Hospital. On Monday, the family, including the parents of Craig Wilson, gathered at the baby's bedside for a ''dedication'' by pastor Bob Marquis, a family member. The purpose of the dedication was to hand the child over to God, Twiddy said. ''If God is choosing to take him,then we are dedicating his body to the Lord,'' she said. The family prayed that ''if it is God's will, we will willingly dedicate him to God.'' Twiddy said the ordeal for the family is ''absolutely one of the most devastating things — traumatic, horrific, it's everything. It's a nightmare.'' Families join She said she and the family of Craig Wilson, including his parents, Cheryl and Craig, have spent considerable time together since the baby was injured. Twiddy said Wilson's family is ''wonderful . . . We don't blame them . . . We know who is responsible for what has happened. They lived at the hospital just like we did.'' She said her family wants the public to know that ''this has not only affected our daughter by losing her son, she has lost her husband, they (the Wilson family) lost their son as well as their grandson.'' Her daughter ''has wonderful support . . . that will help her get through this,'' Twiddy said. The Summit County Medical Examiner's office reported Wednesday that an autopsy had been completed on the infant. ''The cause and manner of death are listed as pending to permit the completion of routine laboratory testing and review of records'' that might take two weeks or more, said Gary Guenther, an investigator with the medical examiner's office. Twiddy and her husband Gregory urged all parents to never shake a baby. ''Call someone'' if you think there is trouble or a potential for someone harming a child, Laura Twiddy said. A benevolent fund has been established at all FirstMerit banks in the name of Camryn Jakeb Wilson. Funeral arrangements will be made by the Cox Funeral Home, 222 Norton Ave., Barberton. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Carney can be reached at 330-996-3576 or jcarney@thebeaconjournal.com. Link
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Babies having babies...the "mom" is 19, I believe, and the little girl was 2. The boyfriend is 26. He was probably beating the "mom" as well.
That will probably be her excuse. Battered Womans Syndrome is used as a catch all.
I'm not going to discuss the merits of it but I think it is no excuse to allow this stuff to happen to your children. She is as much to blame for this if there really is a history of violence.
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He was probably beating the "mom" as well.
Of course he was. That's probably why she didn't try an stop him....she was terrified.
Of course, that doesn't get her off the hook. It's your responsibility to leave that relationship to protect your child and yourself.
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Of course he was. That's probably why she didn't try an stop him....she was terrified.
Please. Your job as a mother is to protect your children above all else. He would of had to bash my skull in before he ever got a shot at my child.
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