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3:30 pm eastern according to yahoo. Man I can't wait, I have a feeling...
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That's a perfect time. Lebron Finds His Jumpshot! Hopefully that's what will happen
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if you doubted this team.
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Anybody know the tip-off time on Sunday for game seven?
3:30 EST
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3:30 EST
What that is just an estimate???? You don't know for sure????? 
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Anybody know the tip-off time on Sunday for game seven?
3:30 EST
Figures. This week I get shifted to night shift, so instead of catching the end of the game and getting to see the final score, I'll get to see the beginning and then have to wait until 5am to see the final score.
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*Hands Strife a beer, Jack Daniels, Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Milk, water, and a juice.* Take your pick and wash it down bud. 
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Anyone else think its strange that the Hornets and Spurs get three days off before their game 7 while the Cavs and Celtics only get 1?
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I see you've diverted to "Cautious Optimism"...lol...
Someone said the NBA wants Boston/LA in the Finals...It's been 20+ Years since those days...Don't tell me the NBA wouldn't want the #1 and #2 players in the league in the Finals...Bron vs Kobe...It's a new era...Bird/Magic is old news...
The Cavs have played Boston pretty solidly defensively this entire series...Bron still hasn't had that GAME...Allen and Pierce have just about been non existent...KG's the one carrying them...We opened up a pretty good lead in game 5...Came out flat in the 3rd and even Bron said it himself...
There's NO REASON we can't close this out Sunday...Boston's not exactly heavily tested in playoff games...Specifically game 7's...KG's tested in one thing...Goin' home after 1 series...We keep the defensive pressure at a high level and we can take this...
Bron needs to get Z into the mix right outta the gate...Z gets 18+ and we win...
Cleveland 87
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Go Browns!!!
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Bron needs to get the other guys going early... I was pumped in game 5 when he came out on fire shooting... but all of the team's best games have been when he gets the other guys going early and then he puts his foot on the gas in the second half in terms of scoring.
Should be interesting. Boston has been tough as hell at home... Do I think we can win? Hell ya... but it ain't going to be easy.
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Afterward, Celtics coach Doc Rivers was still fuming over some calls he felt went against his team.
“Tell the refs to do the interview. They were just as important,” an angry Rivers shouted at a team official as he walked back from the postgame news conference.
is this guy serious?
the charging call, and the supposed goaltend on the west block (which he didn't even touch the ball) were good calls...
where does this guy have the room to say anything after the second half of game 5??
at least the cavs don't need the zebras to win home games...
can't say the same for boston.
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Bron needs to get Z into the mix right outta the gate...Z gets 18+ and we win...
I do think that is very important. Not gonna say Z needs a certain point total, but if we get him involved early on a few pick and pops, his game gets a lot more energy (offensive boards, tip ins).
The main key for tomorrow is limiting turnovers and treating the ball like its gold. That means Delonte can't be getting ripped by Rondo at the top of the key, no lazy passes by Lebron, no forced dribbling in bad situations, etc. We have to play STRONG with the ball, something we have not done on the road against Boston. That may mean calling a few 20 second timeouts if we get stuck in a corner with the ball.
If we truly VALUE each posession tomorrow, we can do this....
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The charge wasn't a good call, even LeBron thought so. The Cavs benefited from a lot of ticky-tack foul calls on the Celtics just like Boston has benefited from bad calls against the Cavs when they are at home. The home teams in this series have gotten the calls in their favor, it is what it is. I'm not sure what you are talking about. At the end of the 3rd the Cavs had taken 23 free throws, the Celtics only 9. Something just doesn't seem right about that, maybe because Cleveland was at home, it's just the way it goes. Boston will get the calls in Game 7 - know this going into it.
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Sweet !...Go Cavs  ....
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The free throw disparity is simple, the Cavs go to the rim more. Remember that even in Boston in game 5 where the Cavs weren't getting the calls (like you aknowledged), they still shot more free throws than the Celtics.
The Celtics want to be a jump shooting team, that's their game, and that's why they are being taken to a game 7 for two straight series against teams they have the talent advantage on.
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I understand that, but there were a ton of off the ball fouls that had no business being called - against Boston or Cleveland, but they were called on Boston way more.
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Well, this should be interesting. Michael Reghi was losing his mind last night because, in a radio interview, Paul Pierce GUARANTEED a BLOWOUT, not just a win, a BLOWOUT victory in Game 7. Shut his piehole, Lebron, shut his piehole!!!
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The charge wasn't a good call, even LeBron thought so. The Cavs benefited from a lot of ticky-tack foul calls on the Celtics just like Boston has benefited from bad calls against the Cavs when they are at home. The home teams in this series have gotten the calls in their favor, it is what it is. I'm not sure what you are talking about. At the end of the 3rd the Cavs had taken 23 free throws, the Celtics only 9. Something just doesn't seem right about that, maybe because Cleveland was at home, it's just the way it goes. Boston will get the calls in Game 7 - know this going into it.
the charge was good, lebron had his feet set, and pierce even helped by totally overreacting...
the cavs have gotten a few favorable calls at home, but it's been clear that in boston, they are really getting screwed...
in games 3 and 4, the officiating did not play a role, the cavs were just flat out better...
i honestly think if this game was played on a neutral court, the cavs would win by 15...
this boston team is not championship caliber. plain and simple. they will get stomped by detroit if they win tomorrow.
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Agreed. Win or lose, I still think the Cavs are the better team in this series. Detroit will mop the floor with the Celts if they end up playing each other.
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I may be wrong but didnt the celtics kick our asses a few days ago...? How are we a championship team and theiy are not...? 
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The charge wasn't a good call, even LeBron thought so. The Cavs benefited from a lot of ticky-tack foul calls on the Celtics just like Boston has benefited from bad calls against the Cavs when they are at home. The home teams in this series have gotten the calls in their favor, it is what it is. I'm not sure what you are talking about. At the end of the 3rd the Cavs had taken 23 free throws, the Celtics only 9. Something just doesn't seem right about that, maybe because Cleveland was at home, it's just the way it goes. Boston will get the calls in Game 7 - know this going into it.
It's because Boston is a pretty soft, jump shooting team on offense. It has nothing to do with "getting calls" and everything to do with Boston's strategy. If you don't consistently attack the basket, you're not going to shoot free throws in the playoffs.
Pierce is a jump shooter that occasionally drives (most of the time it's 3 dribbles and a pull up). Allen, strictly a catch and shoot player. Garnett, a face up post player that relies on the jumpshot and Perkins, not even a factor on offense. The only slasher is Rondo and he tries to avoid contact.
When you have that kind of lineup on the floor, you're not going to shoot a lot of free throws. Cleveland is averaging 6+ more FT attempts in 12 playoff games. They've made it a point to attack the basket and Boston is having to foul to stop them from easy buckets.
Everyone wants to talk about the Pierce play but two minutes before it Pierce absolutely hacked the crap out of LeBron and there was no call. Ilgauskas was also tripped in the lane and it led to a turnover. Boston had plenty of opportunities and just couldn't get it done. When you can't beat a team that shot 30% from the field, you don't deserve to win.....and then to try to blame it on the officials.  Pretty weak for a team that's supposed to be the best in the league.
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One more little stat(s)......
According to the shot chart, Boston only took 23 of it's 68 shots in the paint (34%) and only 16 of those (24%) were inside of 3-4 feet.
Cleveland took 32 of it's 73 shots in the paint (45%) and 24 of those (33%) were inside 3-4 feet.
10 more (official) chances in the paint and 8 more shots inside of 3-4 feet is going to equate to a big free throw advantage, especially when you consider that the missed shot attempts on fouls don't go down as a mark on the official stat sheet. Cleveland probably shot nearly twice as many total shots in the paint and surely doubled up Boston inside of 3-4 feet when you consider the number of times they were fouled inside (that don't show up on the shot chart).
If Boston wants to shoot FT's, they have to be around the basket more. Just look at the shot chart...
Garnett took 3 total shots inside of 3-4 feet. 15 of his 21 shot attempts were outside the paint and 3 of the six inside the paint were in the 10-12 foot range.
Pierce took only 3 shots in the paint, only 2 inside of 3-4 feet in 15 attempts.
When your star players are settling for jumpers THAT much, you're not going to be making too many trips to the line.
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we've got to put a body on garnett... i'm really tired of him hitting that wide open 15 footer... he's been automatic from there, and we aren't contesting it... it seems like he's wide open...
if you can get him to miss some of those, you have a great chance to win...
and i never said the cavs were championship caliber, i simply said the celtics weren't..
the cavs have proven they can win on the road... they hang their hat on their frontcourt play, and they play outstanding defense...
they are making this supposed "big three" (really getting tired of that whole thing) look pedestrian...
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Dude, West blocked the ball after it hit the backboard, maybe you are talking about a different play.
And the Pierce charge was not a good call, Im a Cavs fan, but I can admit when we got a few calls.
Eat it Phil...
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You are 100% correct on both accounts. Lebron lucked out getting the charge called on Pierce, James feet were clearly NOT planted and he should have been charged with a foul. West's block as you stated did hit the backboard but I don't think the ball would have gone in. Either way we need to step it up tomorrow and play much better then we did last night if we want a shot at beating Boston, because we won't get those lucky calls on their floor.
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Wrong. This isn't last year, and the Cav's haven't proved they could win on the road because if they had, this series would be over. Winning one game in Washington doesn't prove squat.
The Cav's are my team but even if they squeak out a win tomorrow, (which I doubt will happen) they would get their asses handed to them by Detroit.
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Cavs won twice in Washington, not just once.
Detroit would not whoop our asses by the way. Would they win, maybe, would they run us out of the gym, no. Not sure how much you follow Detroit, but they are much like the Cavs. They play to the level of their opponent too much and get stagnent at times. Plus, Flip Saunders is their head coach. Brown outcoached Flip just last year in the ECF....
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My bad 2 games. It still doesn't prove anything, Washington isn't at the same level as Boston. Sorry Detroit would whip our asses, this isn't last year, and this isn't the same team. I want to win as well, but at least I'm realistic, Detroit would be gunning for us, with our fluke series win last year, and yes it was a fluke. Play that series 10 times and we would probably just win once, just like last year.
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Dude, not to be an ass, but it is obvious you dont really follow this league. You come off as the type of guy that just starts paying attention come playoff time.
Why do you think Detroit would just blow us out? I am not getting that..
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Nope I am no bandwagon jumper unlike most Cav's fans, see I watched the games before Lebron was around, unlike the minions who now call themselves fans, probably people like you. I watched this team when they would lose by 25 and it was considered close. Detroit would be gunning for us if we played them this year, but it's a moot point since I don't see us winning tomorrow, but if we do watch and learn, that way you don't have to try to call someone else an bandwagon fan in the future.
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Sorry I forgot to answer your question, Detroit would kill us since their a better team. Why don't you guys understand that? Last year was a fluke period. Detroit has gone to what 6 conference finals, in the past 6 years, yeah they suck.
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Sorry I forgot to answer your question, Detroit would kill us since their a better team.
Nice explanation---very convincing. 
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Yeah I am not a bandwagon fan my man, I almost wish I was sometimes, so I wouldnt care so much when I get my heart ripped out....
I am not really questioning your knowledge of the Cavs, more on the league itself. I am saying I don't really understand what on Detroit that see where they would "blow us out." Them "gunning for us" doesnt cut it as an answer. Hell, they should have been "gunning for us" last year when we took them to 7 games the year before in our first playoff appearance as a group with Lebron.
You say "they are not the same team as last year." What is different from last year other than Stuckey being their and CWebb not? Stuckey is getting good minutes backing up Chauncey, and Maxiell has been starting for Dyess, but other than that, they are pretty much the same group that has been together for the past 4 years.
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last year was a fluke series?
based on what?
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Also, I never said Detroit sucks.
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Sorry for the confusion I was trying to state that Cleveland isn't the same team, this group of players are different and quite frankly don't think the trades we made panned out the way we would have liked.
Detroit has taken some heat for not changing their players but all they do is win, good team chemistry and overall better players then what we have. Detroit won't say it, but I have a feeling that they want us to move on, so they can have a chance to prove last year was a fluke, sorry you don't like that answer but it is what it is.
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based on what?
Us winning all because Lebron played out of his mind. Didn't you watch the series last year?
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