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1 Florida
2 Ohio State
3 LSU
4 Southern California
5 Boise State
6 Louisville
7 Wisconsin
8 Michigan
9 Auburn
10 West Virginia
11 Oklahoma
12 Rutgers
13 Texas
14 California
15 Arkansas
16 Brigham Young
17 Notre Dame
18 Wake Forest
19 Virginia Tech
20 Boston College
21 Oregon State
22 TCU
23 Georgia
24 Penn State
25 Tennessee


This is the AP... the others can be found here: web page

Michigan beat Wisconsin and yet they finished below them in all those polls. <img src="/images/graemlins/saywhat.gif" alt="" />

After the way the Buckeyes played last night I thought they'd be behind both LSU and USC.

Shock and awe, man. I still can't figure out what they thought they were doing last night.

They were trying to beat a team that isn't easy to beat.

One thing they werent doing last night was playing inspired football...

Congrats to Boise State, Louisville and Rutgers. Three programs that are very impressive. Nice to see the small universities up there with the big football factory schools.

Also, salutations go out to Big East teams which I believe won 4 bowl games according to Joe Petrino, HC, Louisville.

Michigan had 2 losses, Wisconsin had 1... Michigan lost it's last 2 games, Wisconsin beat the runner-up in the SEC... I think it's fair....

I'm really surprised that LSU didn't jump over OSU... possibly even USC... but I thought for sure LSU would be #2....

So am I, after last night I thought for sure they should have and would have.

BSU fans are probably excited to be in the top 5! My Dad was talking about how everyone was hoping they could crack into that spot, but he didn't think the sports writers would give them a chance. The did manage to secure one first place vote in the media poll though! <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

I should of made a side bet with him ... I said, I'm sure there's at least one "we need a playoff system" homer out there in the press that would give BSU a first place vote.

I agree with you though DC ... LSU should be number 2.

I'm surprised Boise State wasn't higher.

Boise should be 3 and lsu should be 2 and notre dame should be a lot higher than 17 and west virginia should also be higher

Why should Notre Dame be higher?? They lost three games and didnt beat a ranked opponent all year.

KING

That makes sense. I guess I forgot those bowl game thingies. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I think right now OSU fans and scUM fans would like to forget them.

KING

Well those two teams certainly forgot about them. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

What college team are you fan of anyways Excel? Or are you just the appointed [censored] stirrer??


KING

If they had beaten a better team in their bowl game they probably would have.

I dont even remotely see USC having any consideration of jumping them though with 2 losses to 2 unranked opponents.

Excl is our resident Nostradamus...

Idaho is the college I went to, so that's my "real" team. I was an OSU fan long before I went there, and I'm still a OSU fan to this day. All though if Idaho were to somehow pull a BSU (Who is Idaho's rival by the way), work it's way up to the top of the rankings and play Ohio State ... that's probably the only time I'd pull for a team over Ohio State. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

And yes, I'm also the resident [censored] stirring Nostradamus. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The Big East went 5-0 in their bowl games. They had good matchups, but they took advantage of the situation.

Boise State is where they should be. They won and congradulations to them, but they won on trick playes, which is a one trick pony.

ND is where they belong for a team that gets blown out.

Ohio State shouldn't be #2. They were blown out and they should drop 6-8 spots.

No way that silly to even say. Dropping that far would put them below Michigan who they beat and who also got blown out in their bowl game. USC has two losses . I could see a argument for LSU to be over us and even Boise State over LSU but that is as far as I could see it.

KING

How you win should have absolutely ZERO relevance. I happen to think they are where they should be too, but not because they won on trick plays...

we are pennstate oioioioioioioioi #24

It's an indication that they could not win w/o the trick plays. It's all relevant, as is SOS.

I agree, sort of... anybody who watched the Boise State game saw them push Oklahoma around most of the game and almost blow it...... They didn't NEED the trick plays to be leading in the 4th quarter.....

SOS does matter to an extent, it has to... or teams will start loading up on cream puffs and college football will look like December college basketball...

Boise State outplayed Oklahoma in the first half. No doubt about it. But Oklahoma came back on Boise State and outplayed them for most of the 2nd half. And Boise State wins in OT by one point after three trick plays -- the lateral to get into overtime; and the two OT plays. Nine out of ten times a team in Boise State's position with a minute to go loses that game. And I think there was a hefty dose of luck for them at the end of the game. But after they win in this manner they jump up 7 spots to #5? The character of the win or loss is revelevant. Boise State snuck by. They did not dominate like LSU or Florida, and came very close to blowing a 20 point lead.

You are right, 90% of the time the team down by 7 would lose... where we disagree on the amount of luck involved.. Were there batted balls that came down in the right spot? Defenders falling down? Hail Marys? Bad penalty calls? Nope, none of that. Each play, while not a "conventional play" was drawn up and executed exactly as it was designed. How does that make it luck? Sounds like good planning to have them in the playbook, brilliance to call them at just the right time, and skill for the players to pull off each one without a hitch.... Could they do it again? Probably not, but that's not the test, they did it when they had to.


The reason they were ranked so low, as an undefeated team, to being with was because they hadn't beaten a "national team".. well they did, so that jump was for that game as well a bit of make-up for being so low in the first place.


Was the character of OSU's win relevant against Miami? They won on a pass interference call which is still debated to this day... I don't see too many people saying they "snuck by"...


You wouldn't expect a game between two similarly ranked teams to be a domination the way either of those two were... and they had a 20 point lead... without trick plays they had a 20 point lead.... that, to me, is far more important than the play that won the game in the end.

iam............Can't look at it that way. Auburn beat Florida bur are ranked below them. Oregon St. and UCLA beat USC and aren't even ranked in the top 20.

I am glad to see Boise St. ranked in the top 5. Congrats to them. I bet my friend boisebanger, who used to post on the board, is thrilled. I miss the guy even though we used to fight like cats and dawgs.

I think the only team that got slighted is Louiville. They had a great season w/one misstep. Probably shouldn't have lost that game either.

They didnt?? you have selective memory. Many tried to diminish our national championship that year by saying we snuck by or got lucky. Hell I heard that team called the " Luckeyes" many times. Doesnt bother me a bit though. We were a bit lucky to certain extent. It ws just a special year where things fell our way. I will cherish that year as my first(and only to this point) championship of any of my major teams.


KING

you know how it is always thinking ur team is better than they really are <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

One thing I always know is they are better than Notre Dame. At least the Bucks actuallly DID something to be ranked high. At leat we have won a bowl game in the past decade. ND is overrated year in and year out. this year was no different.

I have NO PROBS with our final ranking ... but don't LIE ... LIARS SUCK ... well unless U mean by saying we didnt beat a ranked team all year doesnt include BLOWING ONE OUT ...

go see #24 in the final poll .. and when we played them this year .. they were ALOT HIGHER THAN THAT ... or dont u count teams lower than 23??? <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

In 2 years .. the HYPE becomes REALITY .,... watch and see ...

[color:"white"] HERE COME THE IRISH!!!!! [/color]

When I said I don't see too many people saying they "snuck by", I was referring to OSU fans...

And I feel like you do King, it doesn't matter how OSU won those games that year, they won them... they won them all... and they deserve the NC they got for it...

My point was not to diminish what the Buckeyes did, but rather to equate what Boise State did this year, especially against Oklahoma since BFFL said the "character of their win is relevant" because it was "lucky"......