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They are each great in their own way, but which is your favorite?

I picked Navy because my dad served in that branch. Also, if I were to go into the military, Navy would be my first choice... (something about the water, I guess)

In other news, take this quiz to find out which branch you should join:
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For some strange reason I went with the United States Air Force.

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yw. I remembered last night around 11, but I didn't want to call you that late. For some strange reason, I figured you'd be in bed.


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I was actually up doing some school work, but that was only till 11:15pm. I know, I know, I was up way past my normal bedtime, LOL.

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Well you know since you're in your late 20's now you need to start getting more rest.....


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Ouch! I wish I was in my late 20's again. I am almost as old as DawgMichelle now, though I do look better, and also she kisses like crap.

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Small branch of the Navy.....

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I was a seabee so "GO NAVY"

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I come from a long line of sea-men (pun intended). I actually damn near joined the Navy myself right out of high school.


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Ouch! I wish I was in my late 20's again. I am almost as old as DawgMichelle now, though I do look better, and also she kisses like crap.




Wrong. I think that was your fault.

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I so wanted to kick your ass that night. If I could have stood, I may have tried.


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Air Force.


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Go Navy!


Coast Guard isn't military, they are a part of the Department of Transportation.


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I heard that somewhere years back and thought it was amusing.

Fletch.. never heard that one... shame! I know she can get frisky.

PPE... I don't think you're right about that one. But ok. It was a funny joke anyways.


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What was the name of the bar that I almost jacked someone up, when he yelled in your face? That was another whacked night because that other guy through in his 2 cents and literally saved me from possible police activities?

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I think he yelled at Jules...I would have hit him if it would have been me that night. King's Point was the place. And, yes, that was a very strange night.


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Air Force. I served in the Navy, but spent the best three weeks of my life at Nellis Air Force Base. We were participating in Red Flag, and the put us up in hotel rooms...Err baracks. I ate in a resturant they called an enlisted mess. God, did those Air Force babies have it easy. Man, was I jealous.


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I said Air Force.....
My father was in the Air Force and I have always had a love for technology and jets.

I like the Navy as well. But as Pdawg put it.....the Air Force treats their people "NICE". They get the best toys to play with(although an M1 A2 Abrahams and a Stryker can be fun too I guess...LOL) and they have the best gear(even if they don't have the best dress uniform). They get to travel a lot. And they have what I would consider the best training for life after the military as far as working in the technical corporate world. They talk about NASA putting up a satelite maybe once every 3 months....the Air Force probably puts up 3 a month.

In many ways, the Air Force is the step child of the military because they are looked on as soft by the other branches. I mean Marines are supposed to be the toughest(although the Navy would say that they let them say that ...lol) the NAVY does a little of everything and they have SEALS...The Army has the Rangers, Green Berrets,Airborne, etc...these are considered Front Line Battle Troops....

But you ask those guys that really know. You ask them about the "maroon berets". Any Seal, Ranger, Green Beret, what have you will tell you that they are more than happy to have an Air Force Special Forces operator known as the Para Jumpers with them. They are the Pararescue. They are trained to fight with any and all special forces units and are the primary paramedics on the battlefields. Their motto "That Others May Live". They are the ones to go in and rescue down pilots(though not limited to) And their training is every bit as tough as BUDS and the others....except theirs is sprinkled heavily with medical paramedic training as well as the same mental and physical training beyond normal human capacity.

And when troops are pinned down....nothing is more melodious to the troop commander than the voice of the bomber pilot overhead about to clear out any and all opposition ahead of you....Or to call for for the C-130 Spooky and see Puff the Magic Dragon come to Life


So sure...they take their ribbing....but that because they know that it just stems from jealousy....LOL

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Coast Guard isn't military, they are a part of the Department of Transportation.




Nope. The Coast Guard is most certainly military (established as such in 1915) and it now operates as part of Homeland Security (as of 2003). During wartime (or at the descretion of the President), the Coast Guard falls under the authority of the Navy.

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Coast Guard isn't military, they are a part of the Department of Transportation.




Nope. The Coast Guard is most certainly military (established as such in 1915) and it now operates as part of Homeland Security (as of 2003). During wartime (or at the descretion of the President), the Coast Guard falls under the authority of the Navy.




That is accurate.

For me....Navy obviously.


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ok, you got me on it no longer being Dept of Transportation.... but tell me where it was from 1967 (prior to which it was Dept. of Treasury) until 2003 when they moved it?


here's a hint: Dept. of Transportation, and not a military branch.




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No French Foreign Legion? Sheesh, what a lame poll.


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Navy for me.


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I choose Army because that's where my Dad was... But I have just a ton of respect for Marines... Actually, I respect them all...


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here's a hint: Dept. of Transportation, and not a military branch.




You're still wrong...

The Coast Guard has been an armed service since its inception in 1790. In fact, it pre-dates the Navy by about eight years and was the nation's only armed force afloat until the Navy department was established in 1798. It has always been a branch of the US military (regardless of what government department it took orders from in peacetime)

You can check out the Coast Guard's history if you like at www.uscg.mil . (notice the .mil at the end of the URL )

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I'm sorry, was that a "Yes, you are correct, it was indeed Dept of Transportation" statement that you made? I thought so. I also believe that you said "Yup, you're right, it was Dept of Treasury".


Is it an armed force? Yes, it is... we do let the kids play with guns. But that is not part of the military, regardless of some domain name registration.

Let's also look deeper than you post on the history. From the FAQ on that same site, under the section "When was the Coast Guard established?":

"7 August 1789: The service, eventually to be known as the US Lighthouse Service, was established under the control of the Treasury Department"


As for the reference to 1790, aside from being immaterial to the discussion as it wasn't ever a question of who came first, note the semantics of "We trace our history back to 4 August 1790, when the first Congress authorized the construction of ten vessels to enforce tariff and trade laws, prevent smuggling, and protect the collection of the federal revenue. Known variously as the Revenue Marine and the Revenue Cutter Service".

Note the word "REVENUE" used repeatedly there... now combine that with the knowledge that they were most assuredly operating under the auspices of the Dept of Treasury and what do you get? Shallow Water Tax Collectors that paint Lighthouses and Buoys


Also, note what happens to them in time of war: "In times of war, or at the direction of the President, we serve under the Navy Department. "

... they get put under the protection and guidance of the real sailing fleet


What they do is vital for sure, but it is not militant in nature by any means or definition, no matter how many uniforms and rank structures they copy, nor how many discounts the Fed gets by registering domain names in bulk.

Life saving, maintaining aids to navigation and charting, customs enforcement... all good things, but NOT military.


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p.s. If we really want to go back to where a branch can trace their history to, the Navy pre-dates the United States itself as the Continental Congress in 1775 urgin colonies to build their own fleets, followed by a resolution from Rhode Island that there be a single Continental Fleet. The schooner Hannah, commissioned out of pocket by George Washington, was commissioned and launched in Sept. 1775. In Oct of 1775, Congress begun commissioning their own ships.

Lastly, the Navy itself has its birthday as October 13, 1775.... a full 14 years before the Coast Guard got its first lighthouse, and almost 2 full decades before it actually had anything more than a row boat


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Actually, the Coast Guard now falls under the Dept. of Homeland Security.....it was the Transportation dept up until DHLS was created


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yeah, I had forgotten that, but the entire time I served, and thus all that was in my mind, was that they are/were Transportation. Even under Homeland though, still not military... no more military than the FBI.


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yeah, I had forgotten that, but the entire time I served, and thus all that was in my mind, was that they are/were Transportation. Even under Homeland though, still not military... no more military than the FBI.




I understand...my youngest son is talking about the military, including the CG after graduation from college this summer and I was browsing around last night or the night before and found that information as I too remembered them as a branch of the DOT.


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No French Foreign Legion? Sheesh, what a lame poll.



Would you believe me if I said you are the only reason I threw the "other" option into the poll?


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No French Foreign Legion? Sheesh, what a lame poll.




The words "French" and "military" should never be used in the same sentence.


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He didn't use them in the same sentence... but you did.


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He didn't use them in the same sentence... but you did.



Thanks..

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I'm sorry, was that a "Yes, you are correct, it was indeed Dept of Transportation" statement that you made? I thought so. I also believe that you said "Yup, you're right, it was Dept of Treasury".




I'm sorry, I thought this was a conversation about the USCG's role as a branch of the US military. I get that it is your opinion that the Coasties aren't "military enough" to be considered a branch of the US military. Try telling CG vets who served on escort duty in the Atlantic or manned landing craft at places like Normandy or Tarawa that they weren't "military enough."

I'd be curious to hear what your definition of "military" is. Because, by any definition I can find, the USCG is most definitely military in nature.

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Sorry, I thought this banter begun with me saying that they were Dept of Transportation, and thus NOT Dept. of Defense, and thus NOT military.

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I'm sorry, I thought this was a conversation about the USCG's role as a branch of the US military.




They are a CIVIL (note, that does not say civilian) entity, not a MILITARY one. Their purpose is not combat, thus they are not military.

As for your WW2 vets... guess what? They had been attached to the Dept. of the NAVY when that occurred, and those sorts of things occurred ONLY when they were under the auspices of the Navy.... which is a completely different story altogether.


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Because, by any definition I can find, the USCG is most definitely military in nature.




That's odd, I haven't seen a single thing that is military in nature about them. In fact, I'm pretty certain that I've completely refuted every point that you've attempted to make in support of your view.


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