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Well I guess I'll wish LCB well.. I think a lot of this was the Browns sitting him down last year even though he felt he was ready.. But I think it was good to be a little cautious, especially considering we have been burned by putting players back in before they are fully ready. I guess some of it could boil down to the FO being a little paranoid. but well Good luck


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Ok, here's my take on it all.......

This is by no means the gospel, but what sounds like to me what happened here.

I was at work tonight and learned of this at about 11:35 when my dad called to tell me as I was just starting to drive home.

My initial thought, as I sat in my car fuming, was this is all Savage's fault. I since have changed my thoughts on it. I know from Phil's comments yesterday that he didn't plan on Bentley starting. He said the OL played together last year and he'd have to "fit in" with them and Crennel.

I initially didn't like that comment because I thought it was a knock on Bentley, especially since a guy like Hadnot is now stepping in, and he wasn't here last season.

After thinking about it more, and coming home and reading some of the reports and interviews, it looks like this was pretty much Bentley's doing. Obviously, he and Phil don't see eye to eye. Phil isn't about to hand the guy a starting spot, which Bentley seems to want, and that's ridiculous.

I respect the guy for thinking he can start somewhere, but think it's absurd to not even compete for the spot and just ask to be released. The most irritating thing about this is how much fan support he received during this, and how much many of us wanted to see him play. I wanted to see him do it because I know what it meant to him.

Obviously, it didn't mean that much.

The comment he made about coming here, taking less money and signing for personal reasons to be a Brown really irks me. Because he then said at some point, it has to become a business decision.

Bentley was making the league minimum this year unless he started.

If you don't think that has anything to do with his decision, you're crazy.

I'm sure he wants to start somewhere, and I can think of several million reasons why.

I also know there's more to this story. He stayed away from here during rehab. Why? He was out of the media, keeping to himself. Something obviously happened between him and the organization. Not sure, but I have a feeling there's more to come on this story.

He was in a prime place to grab a staring RG spot with Tucker out and Hadnot just coming in. If he was "as good as he's going to get" as he told reporters, why not fight for that spot? Earn it. Instead, he asks for a release. I guess it's better now so it doesn't become a distraction, but 2 days ago, I would have never thought I'd be sitting here talking about this.

I'm very disappointed. I'm sure we'll be hearing more, it'll get deeper....


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‘‘We brought out some defensive linemen and linebackers, and I had full contact and did very well,’’ Bentley said. ‘‘The issue wasn’t about my performance as a player. The issue at that time was my running and mechanics. As far as my knee holding up, I’ve established that because I’ve had full contact.’’




So he can take a hit but can't run? That means he can't play, end of story. A lineman that can't run worth a crap won't be playing for any NFL team. How do you run block? Especially at center, if you can't run? It's impossible.

Wish LCB luck but given some of our injuries and question marks at RG, if he could have played at a competent level he would have stayed, end of story. JMHO. We'll see how it plays out but I wouldn't be surprised if he retired after not being able to make a team.

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This just makes me mad now... You know... I think Bentley is my least favorite brown now. He was all smiles when he got his $36 million contract. Now he does ziltch for us. I'm glad for his sake he still has his leg and all that, but even Ralph Brown did more for us than Bentley did. I was excited about Bentley. Now he is just an even bigger disappointment than I ever thought.

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A two time probowler who has been ready to play for a year....biding his time....time and again....

He wants to P....L.....A......Y.

Not be what was termed to his agent as an insurance policy.




He still acted like a prima donna about it. Perhaps that's an unfair shake...perhaps had Savage said 'no', he would've kept quiet and served out his one year...but to be asked for a release because you're not named the starter after collecting checks doing nothing for this team but pass a physical?




Phil, I agree with you. I feel like this is a slap in the face of the Browns and their fans. IF he wanted to PLAY, then why did he not work his butt off to climb the depth chart and claim the RG spot.

He said he was excited to be a Brown, he also said he'd play RG if asked. Now he's gone completely in the opposite direction and has left the team.

I have to also agree with those who've said somebody upset him but you can't always get what you want. So, imo, he's acting kinda like a Prima Donna just trying to mask it with an attempt at being respectful.

I doubt any team will give him a guarenteed spot or any kind of large contract until he proves his knee can hold out for at least a full season. Though I'm sure he'll get plenty of offers. I actually hope he signs with a team we play so he can see first hand what he left, when we beat them.


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When LCB signed for the Browns we were a completely different team than we are now. It seems the popular thought process was that LCB was done and would likely never play Football again, so as the FO should we went ahead and planned for life without LCB. Enter Steinbach, Thomas, Fraley etc.
Some real big $$ already committed to the Offensive Line.

Against the odds LCB passes his physical and is able to play again. Now I am sure cap wise we are very close to our limit. LCB was scheduled to make the league minimum for a veteran but it sounds as though if he had played for the Browns we would liable for a whole lot more. This is pure speculation but we may not have been in a cap position for LCB to play any part in the organisation. Alot of this could be smoke and mirrors and I am sure it will all come out in time ....

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I can't believe some of you guys are ready to hang for this...

Numerous times over the past year or so he had an opportunity to be HERE in Cleveland with teammates and coaches...He CHOSE to be in Zona...That right there irked my ass cause he coulda been here for any length of time...At any time...

I see his "Starting" thing...That comes from attitude and drive...GREAT...

Problem is...He's coming back from one hellacious injury...U don't just jump back in and pick up where u left off 2 years ago...

Me thinks Bent's got a rude awakening coming...

I'll be real interested in any contract he gets signed to...It's gonna be near MINIMUMS...For a REASON...

Good Luck Bents...You're NOT gonna be what u were in Norleans...


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I think Phil would have traded him if he could have....it doesn't take that long to make 10-15 calls to others teams with a need. If all laughed at him, there is no need to make more calls. Those guys share cell phones. Phil talked to a few people.

I can make 10-15 calls in a hour.





I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't just be Phil calling. My guess is that he might have had a few guys calling out to teams.

that's my guess anyway. Which if true, begs the question, why wouldn't someone with a need not take a chance on LCB?

Let's see if anyone signs him and then lets see what he does.


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I can't see him in any uniform other than the steelers...

i sure hope he didn't get a playbook this year.




Our defensive lineman would KILL Bentley....

No way he can handle Rogers, Williams, or even our Smiths.....

Man it feels good to say that...


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Hey, this frees up a roster spot for DeMario Minter

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Hey, this frees up a roster spot for DeMario Minter





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well, I'll chime in here, my first opionion when i read this was I guess I'm not surprised, in his interview that he stated I'm a center butt I would play starting guard or whatever, he also made a comment like, I'll be starting somewhere this season, and that statement had more oooomph to in than anything else in the interview. I think it's still on the main site, go ahead and re watch see if you pick up on the same vibe I felt.

My second thought I think was anwered a few posts up:
Does this free up money to bring in a experience corner?
some have mentioned league minimum this season unless he started & possibly we did not have the cap to pay him if he started. if that's true, it pretty much destroyed my first possitive thoughts regarding this situation. I'll admit, the letters S.H.E.P.P.A.R.D flashed across my brain like a screen saver for a second or two , but it sounds like we free up pretty much zero dollars

Bottom line, I really hoped and expected a player coming off something like this to ease back into a full time roll. So I thought we were set this year with LCB as depth.


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Which if true, begs the question, why wouldn't someone with a need not take a chance on LCB?




Someone probably will.

They just didn't want to take a chance that required a pick or some scrub on their roster.


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Yeah, that might be it also... I guess we'll see


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Been mulling this about for a bit, and in thinking about Bentley's own words with the aid of 20/20 Hindsight, there was a good strong hint of bitterness in his words when he spoke of realizing that this is business and business decisions must be made.


Here's my take: He let the business side of it affect him far too personally.

HE is the one that got hurt at THEIR practice
HE went and got the surgery at THEIR hospital by THEIR doctor
HE got a staph infection that caused THEIR doctor to want to take HIS leg, and it damn near took HIS life.
HE went to another doctor and lo-and-behold, no more infections and he kept his leg.
HE worked his tail off to get back into playing shape and felt he was ready to roll, and even took contact... but THEY still put him on IR and wouldn't let him play.. and THEN,
THEY took money out of HIS pocket and shortened HIS contract



He is the one that went through the hell, he is the one that almost died, he is the one that loves this team and took less money to come here... and how does he get rewarded for all of his hard work and unselfishness? By them tearing up the contract and taking his money and telling him he is now in audition mode.


What he is failing to see however, is that they did what they HAD to do, and that he is completely and utterly WRONG for taking it so personally and playing the victim. He is WRONG for "taking his ball and going home" like he has done.

He is, in short, acting like a petulant child.

The world doesn't revolve around LeCharles Bentley, and it sure as hell isn't gonna stop moving for him.

Not having the cajones to man up and actually TRY to become a part of the team and the line, and to not have the cajones to even TRY to make a run at it, all because of spite..... that's just pathetic, especially after seeing how much work he has already put into coming back.


C'est la vie... I can honestly say we won't even notice him leaving though.

How about them apples? We just released a two-time pro-bowl offensive lineman and we won't even see a difference in our Top10 rated OLine.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Purp,, one question,,

Did you eat your Wheaties today

Geez man, I don't ever rememberIa time you were so vocal about a particular situation.... wow,,

But I think you pretty much summed it up.

The Browns, since Savage and RAC got here, seemed to have a solid reputation with the players. They seem to be a group that cares for them and works with them when they really don't need to..

Think William Green for instance. It seemed pretty clear that he wasn't gonna be a player, yet RAC and Savage gave him time to make an impact. He didn't, so he was finally gone.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that speaks volumes about the organization and the relations with players.

I don't want to nail a local boy down. I don't want to belittle LCB. But it certainly appears from listening to Savages presser yesterday, that he was upset with the happenings surrounding LCB. He didn't seem to be his normal confortable, joking self. I think he was stung by the sudden request by LCB.

I'll never blame LCB for wanting to start. Never. But when you have an injury like the one he had, you just have to let it take time to play out. If you rush it, it could mean the end of your career.

I think the Browns were working on the side of caution. Who could blame them?

I wish LCB the best. I would have loved to see it work out here, but thems the breaks I guess..


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I did not see this one coming, and it is still a head scratcher. I expect a bunch of "he said-they did-he didn't-they didn't" finger pointing to come out as time goes on.

The thing that really puzzles me is if you are Bentley- why burn a bridge without having another option. And that makes me think-- he does have another option. I would speculate his agent has been quietly talking with other teams and gauging interest. If this is the case, at what point would that become tampering??? I realize this is speculation, but seriously, when does it become tampering for another team to be talking with a player under contract? I just seemes to me, the best thing for Bentley would have been to play out his contract (1 year) with the Browns, prove he is healthy and then hit the freeagent market. I just can't see him getting a better deal with any other team then he had already, minimum contract with incentives. Why would a team sign him to a long term, guaranteed deal? Its just a head scratcher!!!

Anyways, like of others have said- you can't miss what you never had. He did absolutely nothing for us in two years as a player. The browns moved on two years ago. Now its time for the fans to move on as well.

Yes, i wish him well health wise, doesn't mean i need to root for him as a player anymore. (unless he joins my other team- the vikes- and yes, there are some rumors floating around that have them interested. It does make some sense- Birk is getting up there, has 1 year left on his contract for 5+ million and the vikes have been slow to extend him. And the guard spot can be upgraded as well.......)

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I think you are reaching a little being worried about tampering.. First off, I bet that agents and team reps talk about a bunch of stuff that might be considered tampering all the time. I doubt it's anything new.

If LCB lands with another team and starts, then I think its possible to say that maybe the Browns gave up too soon..

If he lands with another team and is a back up, then I think it's safe to say the Browns had the right approach.

If he lands with another team and gets cut, Then without a doubt, the cautious route the Browns took was a smart move.

Lately, given the moves the Browns have made, I'm betting that they know what they are doing.

No way in hell do I accept the notion that the Browns would let a "Starter Able" guy get away for free.. I think they don't believe that he can start.. maybe even play.

Time will tell.


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Some bit of this whole thing still doesn't make sense to me.

Bentley blows a pateller tendon, gets a really major case of staph, and rehabs all within a couple of years? And the dude shows up to minicamp looking like some kind of ripped monster physical specimen and wants everyone to just take his word for it that he's ready? The rehab was done out of the supervision of the team. And he's bigger, stronger, and faster than before?

I wish Bentley all the best in his career. He was just too big a risk for the Browns. I'm not saying he did anything wrong. I'm just thinking that he's got a major injury that is still fresh and he's done a ton of training somewhere that has him seemingly in good condition but he didn't want to give us a demonstration at league minimum for a reason. He didn't stick around to answer many questions about how sturdy that knee really is or how he got in such marvelous condition. I'm glad the organization supported him during his recovery and I'm equally glad they cut their ties the way they did.

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get over the money part....he almost got his leg cut off and lost his life. It's not your money, so who gives a crap whether he got $5 or $100 million.

As an Iggy grad and huge OSU and Browns fan, this really hurts.




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I agree with you and DND..
People are putting the cart before the horse..

I doubt if a spot couldn't have been found on this team for Bentley....there was...is..all he needed to do was go through camp , beat the crap out of everyone he was lined up against and he'd have a spot.
As I said yesterday it's YEAR 2 after a major surgery that a player returns to form..
So in 08 he's be worked back in slowly..if he held up I have no doubt depending on his skills that he'd be given a opportunity to compete for a starter spot in 09 ..
And what is wrong with that?
No one knows NOT EVEN LCB if he will make through TC ..
Unless he was being totally scewed , he should go through the process..
I'm going to say this to those who feel otherwise...

So..lets look at it for what it is..if the Browns felt he wasn't ready yet..that is their right to take it slow with him.
That shows restraint..how would it look if they throw everything at him..he fails or WORSE reinjures the knee?
The backlash including those WHO ACTUALLY want this would be disasterous..
I can hear it now how they ruined any chance he had by thrusting all this contact and drills on him and his knee wasn't ready for it..
So the Browns did what they had to do..once more this was a strained relationship once he was in Zona..
I'm sure we'll hear more..I am disappointed by all this ..but the team was set before this transpired soooo....

I like DnD want to see what transpires when he latches on to another team.
Now ..I think Phil gave in too fast..unless there's something underlying about this..perhaps he'd be a disgruntled player in the locker room..
You're under contract..you practice ..if it doesn't work ...work out a TRADE with a another team.

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He wants to play, and he sees that he might not get that chance here. That is actually a glowing endorsement


Bingo!!!! I hope he gets to start somewhere, but it won't be for our Brownies!!!! Does anyone know if he is giving any of the "Free" money back from the past two years? JMHO Go Brownies!!!!


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Posted by Mike Florio on June 12, 2008, 7:16 a.m.
Regardless of where center LeCharles Bentley goes next, it doesn’t come as a surprise to some league insiders that Bentley is no longer a member of the Cleveland Browns.

Per a league source, the Browns released Bentley due to a case of mutual loathing. “It was a bad deal,” the source said. “Player hated team, team hated player.”

The Browns had to wait for Bentley to pass a physical before cutting him loose, in order to avoid any grievances. Once he passed the physical, he was out the door.

“He had been a major pain in the ass,” the source said. “Non-compliant, out of town, on his own schedule. He never endeared himself to the brass or his teammates.”

Bentley tore a patellar tendon in the first training camp practice of 2006, and a staph infection significantly complicated his recovery. Last year, there was tension between Bentley and the team because the Browns thought he should undergo another tendon replacement surgery instead of attempting to rehab the one that had been ravaged by the infection.

And so as Adam Schefter of NFLN pointed out on Wednesday, Bentley pocketed $16.6 million despite never playing for the Browns in any game.

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This doesn't really surprise me. He basically hasn't been with the team for 2 years. If he ever makes a comeback, there's no way he's ever the same player again. We already have great depth on the interior of the line (and that's all he would be-- depth). I think this is for the better. We always talk about building chemistry and camaraderie, especially on the line(s), and the first step of that is actually being WITH your teammates.

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Like I said in my rant earlier Purp, money definitely has something to do with it.

He also seems bitter, for whatever reason, and more light will come on this shortly I bet. He stayed away from the team for a reason.

As much as I was pulling for the guy, I have to say I'm very disappointed in this outcome. Very.


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Per a league source, the Browns released Bentley due to a case of mutual loathing. “It was a bad deal,” the source said. “Player hated team, team hated player.”
The Browns had to wait for Bentley to pass a physical before cutting him loose, in order to avoid any grievances. Once he passed the physical, he was out the door.
“He had been a major pain in the ass,” the source said. “Non-compliant, out of town, on his own schedule. He never endeared himself to the brass or his teammates.”


This isn't shocking to me..he was like that at OSU..but remember he went to them and requested it..Phil didn't go to him..unless...they were sooo tired of him that they laid it out that he would have a long road back..thus accelerating the release by Bentley..

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The Browns had to wait for Bentley to pass a physical before cutting him loose, in order to avoid any grievances. Once he passed the physical, he was out the door.





That statement makes it sound as if the Browns were just playing him to avoid grievances. I don't think that's the case because it's been reported over and over again, and confirmed by LCB on the show "all bets are off" that he asked for and was granted a release.

I doubt he would be gone right now had he not requested a release.


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I agree.

I can't remember if I said it on this thread, another thread, or even on another board but it looked to me like Bent was looking to blame someone for all that happened.

Again...can't remember where I read it but I saw something where is is looking at legal action for his problems.

Any way we looked at it, he was a pot of crawdads we didn't need around. That was a marriage that went from honeymoon to divorce quickly.


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this was an exciting development when I heard he cleared physicals because he climbed a heckuva mountain to dress out. Then when he asked for release, well I was naturally bummed after slobbering over what the LCB would mean to an O; played some center, and no center, no run. We have seen it. I feel certain more was said than we are reporting, so I am withholding judgment. I do not believe he would have asked for his release without good reason and clear indications on the FO's part and/or RAC's about his future. So I was gushing at first, flabbergasted, next, and sitting here bummed and confused. But he is a class act, and I give him a no reservations "Attaboy Award" and sincere hopes for a great career. We chose; he chose. Period. But I am curious to know more.


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“He had been a major pain in the ass,” the source said. “Non-compliant, out of town, on his own schedule. He never endeared himself to the brass or his teammates.”





That right there says everything to me...

IMO...He will be nuttin' more than a Jeff Faine from here on out...Didn't feel that way LAST YEAR at this time...Was looking for him to come back...Then came the NOT SO SOON thing...Downhill from there...

A trade woulda got us zilch...He IS NOT GONNA START ANYWHERE IN 2008...Any contract he signs is gonna be a MINIMUM type contract...That's the nature of the beast off an injury like this...We see it with Al Wilson...Player THINKS he's worth more than reality dictates...Teams gotta PROTECT...

I'm not saying good riddens...I'm saying Bentley THINKS his worth and abilities are more than NFL teams will think it is...It ain't just here in Cleveland...

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Sorry if I don't kiss his butt to the proportions that is required...but the guy just asked to leave our team without playing a down for the Browns!

"1. Gets hurt in a freak injury in a minicamp.
2. Has surgery under Cleveland Browns supervision
3. Develops life threatening and career threatening staff infection
4. Has additional surgeries to clean out knee to start a miracle comeback.
5. Is told multiple times after he has rehabbed that he is "not ready" by Savage and Crennel. Why? Money. If he plays and is 90% and gets hurt again...they're on the hook for the full payment.
6. Is told last October after he agreed to the PUP deal that, yet again, he's not ready.
7. Is told to redo his contract to the veteran minimum or he will be cut.
8. Shows up, outperforms expectations in his physical, wants to PLAY, then is told that kid gloves are going to be on and he's going to be limited...again...for the umpteenth time.

1. thats a shame - not Brown's fault nor Bensons

2. I thought the surgery was under the Hospital's supervention. If you implication is the Brown's are some how at fault for the Staph Infection thats a bogus claim.

3. The staph infection was brutal...if there was negligence at fault LCB has a multi-million dollar suit. Stuff happens - heck for all we know is that the new surgery procedure for Patella has them rehabbing in 2 weeks (previously 6 months) LCB could have been working hard and sweating...wiped his nose inadvertantly with his hand as mucus and sweat combined and in the heat the staph germs lived a little longer in that environment - then massaged his knee (rubbed it) and got the staph germ into the area! Nobody knows exactly but an educated guess has something like that as the culprit not some NEGLECT by the Browns!

4. God Blessed him

5 & 6...Was never able to pass our physical which required him to be able to run. Talk about Neglect a Liable Suits...heck if they let him participate with contact drills and he got hurt (with anything) and he couldn't pass their test regarding doing a simple task like running. They are scheming to save money - give me a break!

7. He was paid 16+ mil for 2 seasons - If back 100% and in Pro-Bowl form actually he'd be able to negotiate a brand new contract, complete with a new signing bonus. Bentley was not cheated at all.

8. Out performs what...he passed the Physical. If he didn't pass the physical it was over. The fact that we didn't just put back the clock and erase 2 years and pretend that he's the guy we are going to build the OL around....Sorry that time has come and gone. Savage is only guilty of not putting his head in his hands and saying...WOAH IS US like many on this board. He shrugged his shoulders and said, What can you do and moved on and continued to build the OL.

While you failed to report there is:

9. Bentley seeing that the Browns are a TEAM and have an established OL UNIT and he felt like an outsider - AFTER ONE DAY OF MINI CAMPS! And took his ball and went home! I'm not playing anymore.

He's no hero of mine...if more facts are revealed and I got it all wrong...so be it. But my respect for Bentley was very high while he was a Brown and Wished to Be a Brown...all this talk about being a fan and so forth...if he's good then I don't see this fandom he states he possesses. If he has 2nd guesses and is ready to retire then I will have the utmost respect for him and for the reasons he came here. But what you fail to see is IF he's a legitimate NFL Football player with his recovery...he just walked out on the Browns...Not the other way around.

Thats how I see it and simply is JMHO - you can have yours but you have no right to take that away.


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i'm really bummed by this, and i think we can all speculate on what happened, because let's be honest, there is definitely more to this story, but i wish him well wherever he goes, i just hope he ends up on a team not named the bengals, steelers, or ravens, so i can at least root for him to do well...

i can see both sides, but i also don't understand why bentley wasn't satisfied with earning his role on this team?

he knew that coming here 2 years ago, that romeo doesn't give preferential treatment to not even the waterboys... he makes you work for every inch...

the browns had to move on, we supplied ourselves with depth, because bentley's future was uncertain, but to be honest, if bentley was where he thought he was, there was absolutely no reason he couldn't beat out hank fraley, or seth mckinney, or rex hadnot, none of those guys are going to end up in canton one day... and that's really where i'm confused with this whole thing...

the way he went about his business with the whole arizona thing did raise a flag though, but i honestly hope the guy picks up somewhere else and does well, he seems to have taken the high road with this entire thing, no shots taken, nothing like that, at least not in public...

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i can see both sides, but i also don't understand why bentley wasn't satisfied with earning his role on this team?




I don't think he was afraid of the competition, but I think that the team really likes Fraley as the Center and it was probably verbalized to Bentley that if he wanted to play Center, then he would be a backup. I know that's contradictory to everything we know and believe about RAC, but something tells me that's the way it was going to be.

Combine that with the fact the relationship was on very shaky ground, and it just hit the boiling point.

As much as I hate to see this happen, it's probably best for everyone involved.


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i can see both sides, but i also don't understand why bentley wasn't satisfied with earning his role on this team?




I don't think he was afraid of the competition, but I think that the team really likes Fraley as the Center and it was probably verbalized to Bentley that if he wanted to play Center, then he would be a backup. I know that's contradictory to everything we know and believe about RAC, but something tells me that's the way it was going to be.

Combine that with the fact the relationship was on very shaky ground, and it just hit the boiling point.

As much as I hate to see this happen, it's probably best for everyone involved.




i couldn't agree more...

although it does seem kinda weird, and almost contradictory to say that hank fraley would be our center regardless of what bentley does, and if that is the truth, i don't blame lecharles one bit... especially when the guy is in the final year of a deal...

it's a team game, but there comes a point when you do have to look out for yourself too... it's hard to audition for a team when you can't see the field, and it hurts even more when you know you're better than the guy ahead of you...

i have a hard time believing romeo would not promote lecharles, should he outdo hank, or one of the guards in training camp, there has to be more to this...

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Look out for himself? Dude got paid $16 million basically for falling down two years ago. Forget that he didn't ever play in game. He didn't even practice. Point me to the line...I'll blow out my knee for that kind of payday.

Seriously though, I think at this point he's a lot of hot air, with all his talk about how the starters on our line are "good" but none of them are better than him. Is that true? Then show me. Problem is that he can't. In the piece in today's PD he was quoted as saying that he already has "plenty of options" and that we'll be seeing lots of him this season.

Pittsburgh or Cincy is where I see him, getting eaten alive by our freshly overhauled Dline for 120 minutes a year, for as long as that rebuilt knee can hold up, which I'm guessing isn't long.

I figured it was a telling sign that he didn't even have a locker in the locker room at CBS.

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I think he will go to Pittsburgh.......i got a gut feeling....


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Some more for u guys to chew on...

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports free agent OL LeCharles Bentley would prefer to play guard for his next team.

Not quite what he said Tuesday....


It's surprising Bentley is already being choosy. He's coming off a bunch of knee surgeries and was apparently timed in the 7s when the Browns asked him to run forties for his physical

Interesting...

. He should be willing to play wherever.

http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1081

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Maybe I'm wrong, especially in light of all the past woes reportedly coming out now, but he blew an excellent opportunity to compete for the starting right guard spot and that apparently wasn't good enough. According to RAC, he had the opportunity to compete. According to LCB there was a rift going back two years. According to an "NFL source" LCB is a selfish malcontent who didn't get his own way. According to Schefter the dude was paid $16.6M for two years of rehab in AZ. At this point, I don't care where he goes or what he does, I wish him luck, but we have bigger fish to fry and I couldn't care less if we see him twice a year or not.


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