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1. Sean Mahan, C, Pittsburgh Steelers: Mahan was less than stellar in year one after taking over the reins from Jeff Hartings. Justin Hartwig was brought in to provide competition and to step in should Mahan continue to disappoint.

2. Derek Anderson, QB, Cleveland Browns: It doesn't matter how well Anderson played in 2007 or what the numbers are on his new contract. If he doesn't play well early, on a team with high expectations and primetime games galore, fans will call for local boy Brady Quinn.

3. Rudi Johnson, RB, Cincinnati Bengals: Though Johnson's 2007 season was ravaged by a rash of injuries, there are some out there that believe Johnson is already on the downside of a productive career in Cincinnati. Kenny Watson, Kenny Irons and Chris Perry should be available to pick up the slack.

4. Kyle Boller, QB, Baltimore Ravens: This one is a little too obvious. Boller is likely just keeping the seat warm for Joe Flacco unless he produces in a Derek Anderson-like fashion to begin the season.

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Haven't viewed any camp personally all I got to go on is what is written.

So far its been disheartening to read not a word about DA lighting it up in practice. I am so afraid of wasting this season on him...and in the same thought process would love it if he was a true Gem at the QB position. But so far all I've heard - should say read - is excuses on why he's not lighting it up, instead of how great he is.

I do personally think that BQ is the answer but I also know how the FO/Coaches could be reluctantly at making the switch after the Media keeps beckoning it. Naturally they would make the swith but on their terms and my fear is they would prolong their terms longer than what they would if not everyone.

My other fear is When in the House it actually could be hard to see "IT FACTORS" which I believe is the biggest variable separating the two...BQ has "IT" and DA is almost close to "ANTI - IT"

JMHO and I'll take the heat for it

I think it's far too early still to feel too much concern.

I'll wait until I see it in live action in PreSeason before I worry too much.

Right now...POST Surgery LCB - Bring it on, I'll take Rogers all day long on that one - and give a ton of odds as well

JMHO

I was thinking the same thing and of course IF he does play well , we will have Phil's decision rubbed in our face twice a year ....However , only time will tell about LCB....So far I have been supportive of most of what Savage has done in C-Town....It would be Sad to have this situationturn out to be one of his few negative transactions....

I hope and pray LCB goes to Pittsburgh.

A 29 year old C/G with a very bad knee and can run a +7 40 time?

Shaun Rogers may end his career if he played against him.

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2. Derek Anderson, QB, Cleveland Browns: It doesn't matter how well Anderson played in 2007 or what the numbers are on his new contract. If he doesn't play well early, on a team with high expectations and primetime games galore, fans will call for local boy Brady Quinn.

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And because fans would call for BQ, that in and of itself puts DA on the hotseat? Geez


These questions of who is and who isn't on the hotseat are about as stupid as any I've ever seen from a major sports rag..

Think about it people, isn't everyone on every team and every front office and every coach on every coaching staff on the hotseat every day of every season?

Some seats may be hotter than others.. But really, aren't they all on a hot seat.

Eo,, as for not hearing that DA has lit things up in camp,, first off, it's a minicamp, secondly, how much info can be gotten, and thirdly, I don't remember hearing that BQ lit anything up either.

I think that it's WAY to early to speculate about anything. Including hotseats! But that's JMO

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I don't remember hearing that BQ lit anything up either.

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Somewhere on this board I read, DA played with first string players all mini camp, BQ did not. I think comparison you are doing is not RIGHT. We will never know BQ’s potential. (if DA gets major work with First team, and he will)

Right now pressure is on DA, he has got an excellent opportunity and supporting cast to prove him. He has to do better then last year

I hope you are guys are right.

But he was a stud O-Lineman and if he regains most of his qualities he will make that damn Steeler offense look even better - especially with Mendenhall now in the fray.

Maybe QB issues after all

By Sean McClelland

Staff Writer

Friday, June 13, 2008

BEREA — There's no quarterback competition or controversy this year, right? But that doesn't mean Brady Quinn can't continue to excel.

And that's exactly what Quinn did in minicamp this week, outperforming incumbent Derek Anderson, for whatever it's worth.

Quinn, last year's first-round draft pick from Notre Dame, a player the Browns moved mountains to obtain, put the ball on the money, dodged mythical pass rushers and capped a productive three days Thursday, June 12, with a short touchdown pass to running back Jerome Harrison.

"(Starting) has to be my mindset going in, regardless of what people say," Quinn said, "just because if I'm not preparing that way, I'm doing our team an injustice. You've got to be ready. So that's how I'm preparing myself, regardless of how things may appear or what I'm told."

Anderson, who threw 29 TD passes last season as the Browns set records under first-year offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski, often seemed frustrated this week, at times firing the ball into the sideline in disgust when things broke down.

The Browns are committed to Anderson. They gave him a three-year contract. But what happens if Quinn plays better in training camp and exhibition games and the fans start campaigning for him?

It's the unspoken question hovering over the entire operation as the Browns go their separate ways until training camp begins July 23.

Ready for prime time?

Receiver Joe Jurevicius (knee surgery, staph infection) made news this week by saying he expects to be ready for training camp. What he struggles to understand is why the Browns are playing five games in prime time this season, including three Monday-nighters.

"It's great for the city, but as a player it's something we're going to have to deal with," Jurevicius said. "You lose an extra day. It gives you an extra day to prepare, but it takes away the normalcy of a work week. One Monday night game I think is fine, but three? And a Sunday night and a Thursday night? It can be managed, but it's definitely difficult."

End zones

• Donte Stallworth didn't show the Browns much on the field this week, but they learned something about their new receiver's commitment when he flew back from California — where he was attending a funeral — and arrived in time for practice Thursday morning. Nobody would have expected him to make such an effort under the circumstances.

• Rex Hadnot, the starter at right guard at least until Ryan Tucker (hip surgery) returns, has impressed. "He's done a pretty good job," head coach Romeo Crennel said. "I think we like what we see there."



http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content...spbronotes.html

Camp should be quite interesting this year

I want to know just how much Quinn outperformed Anderson, with what units, etc.

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And that's exactly what Quinn did in minicamp this week, outperforming incumbent Derek Anderson, for whatever it's worth.

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thanks for the article Jules,, DA couldn't beat out Charlie Frye last summer either.. so what's it all mean?

Let me tell you what it means?

To those that feel that DA is the man,, then him not performing means nothing.. or at least they hope so..

To those that think that BQ is the man,, then it means that BQ should start because some reporter who may or may not have actually visited camp says that he outperformed DA.

and to those that don't care who our QB is, it means that we have to listen to those other two types fight it out for the next 6 weeks

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And that's exactly what Quinn did in minicamp this week, outperforming incumbent Derek Anderson, for whatever it's worth.

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What.....Common...It's Mid June already and your gonna tell me our coachs dont have our starting line-up set in stone already. ...what are our coachs doing during the off season, I say if they wanna be lazy than can each and everyone of them....No starting line-up in stone as of June after mini-camp....what are us fans paying for....I want an Apology from the organization for not having a game plan in tack ready for the Cowboys in 3 months......Man

"Eo,, as for not hearing that DA has lit things up in camp,, first off, it's a minicamp, secondly, how much info can be gotten, and thirdly, I don't remember hearing that BQ lit anything up either."

First off...it was minicamp last year that we started to hear about DA wowing the coaches and actually everybody who came to see our practices.

It is obvious to me that we are committing to the young DA as our Starter. You are darn right I would like to hear about him lighting it up. I don't want to be 1-3 or 1-5 this season before we change horses which might be what it takes. Last year the two were in a competition that they felt DA could be the guy.

Now we are going well out of our way to strongly state DA is the starter...if that remains so it will not be a first half hook as in Frye to change horses!

I can care less who does good who does bad...who starts who backs it up.

All I want is the guy who is going to WIN to be out there!

DA scares me, he scares me technically, he scares me historically, he scares me under any kind of pressure.

All I want is us to come out kicking butt!

of couse Jules came out and showed an article stating that BQ is lighting it up...and your response is not of one of MY BAD or anything but to simply make light of it.

We have also read in other articles on how DA is working on Throwing the Ball away... gee just what he needs to work on. On those occasions just tell DA to run a couple of steps to his right or left and just throw the ball...it will automatically be thrown away

JMHO - its getting to the point that I just hope Diam is correct!

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What.....Common...It's Mid June already and your gonna tell me our coachs dont have our starting line-up set in stone already.

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First off, Clay, that wasn't my comment you were attributing to me. that was a quote from an article that jules posted...

I make enough dumb comments without having some dumb reporters comments be made to look like they are coming from me

Secondly,, worrying about whos better than who at this time of year seems rather a waste of time.....so I agree with you,,, I think?

We meaning who? RC? PS? They have both, moung others in the organization have clearly stated that there is no competition and that DA is the starter...

Until that changes he is the starter and I don think anyone is going well out of their way to strongly state that DA is the starter... Cause the head coach and GM have clearly stated this...

DA is what he is at this point in time... I can name only two NFL QB's playing ight now who don't scare me... Very often... And they are both long term proven veterans and future HOF'ers... PM & TB.

Who doesn't DA scare? Last year was his first year as the Browns starter. We all watched what he and the entire team did together... Last year was a very good year for the Browns, DA and most of us...

I don't care if you are the starting QB EO... If you can play like DA did last year and or you can lead us to the playoffs and the SB great! Now that scares me... Why, because you are not a QB, you don't wirte or think like one, IMO, doubt you were a QB... Which is But if you can get us there GREAT! I'll back you like I do DA now... After eating much crow, wiping much egg after dissing DA last year... And the year before that... and ....so on...

I remember you clearly stating that you stand behind all players 100% and that you support the decissions of the front office unquestionably... It seems DA is excluded from this...? Hum... Or maybe I just mis-understood what you represented... My bad. Sorry.

I don't think any of us should bleed before we are cut regarding DA... But many of you are...

I would hope to poopypoo tha BQ is all that and a bag of chips... Considering what the Browns did to get him and looking at his credentials, body of work, skills set, size, intellignece, leadership capability and physical ablility's...

Lighting it up at this time of the year is shorts, against fodder, when it doesn't matter, means didilly...

Let keep things in perspective... Remember is June... And not over react, over think and not continue to post and spew trivial June drivel... JMO's

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I found this remark strange since from what I understand the Mini Camp wasn't open to the press. That being the case how can a reporter say that BQ outplayed DA during Mini camp??

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There are lots of articles all over the 'net with what reporters observed during mini-camp.

From the sidelines, Browns' Quinn still has a star's destiny, says columnist Bill Livingston
blivingston@plaind.com June 13, 2008 19:25PM

No one asked him about forgetting his clipboard.

John Kuntz/The Plain Dealer- Brady Quinn clearly is enjoying his life as a Brown, even if he hasn't yet claimed the starting quarterback position.

"Fans might say that, but not my teammates. But I did hear about the Subway commercial from them," said Browns backup quarterback Brady Quinn. "The third-string quarterback, Ken Dorsey, holds the clipboard [on the sideline] anyway. I don't."

You might remember the sandwich commercial. Quinn, riding a float, surrounded by marching bands and celebrating fans as it pulls away from Cleveland Browns Stadium, fires sandwiches to the crowd. When Harry Kalas' booming voice-over announces Quinn will be handing them out on a special discount deal on Sunday, the former Notre Dame star says, "I'm kind of busy on Sundays."

He wasn't that busy his rookie season.

After Charlie Frye was exiled to Seattle, as Derek Anderson bloomed and then faded at quarterback, Quinn was used for exactly one series against San Francisco in the final game. He completed three of eight passes for 45 of the 57 yards on a drive that ended in a field goal. It should have been a touchdown. Tight end Kellen Winslow dropped a laser-beam pass from Quinn in the end zone.

After the season, the Browns gave $24 million to Derek Anderson in a contract extension. The previous spring, they traded up for Quinn and gave him a $20 million contract and a $7 million signing bonus. The Browns said Quinn was in the top three in talent when he was picked 22nd in the first round.
Lisa DeJong/The Plain Dealer"I have to play as if I'm ignorant of the facts of the (quarterback depth chart)," said Brady Quinn. "I have to play as if it is an open competition."
Maybe his draft stock fell because of his college days, although it is hard to see why, other than a post-Joe Montana drought in Notre Dame quarterbacks who have become NFL stars (Rick Mirer, Steve Beuerlein, and utter hype baby Ron Powlus). "That has nothing to do with me," said Quinn.

Notre Dame also didn't win the big one. That was a criticism, made with more accuracy due to the difference in quality of supporting cast, leveled at no less than Peyton Manning when he was at Tennessee.

The catch is that Notre Dame was only in the big games -- a near-upset of a Southern Cal team that was being called the best in history, bowl game losses to Ohio State and LSU, the latter a year before the Tigers' national championship -- because of Quinn. Look at the shambles in South Bend last year.

The nosedive led to sharp criticism of coach Charlie Weis. But it was Weis' tutelage that turned Quinn from a gutty player who gave his all -- despite his team's physical disparity in his first two years -- into a quarterback with enough accuracy with the ball and acumen with the playbook to become a first-round NFL pick.

There is no reason the same thing could not happen with Quinn now, given the transformation offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski made in the Browns' offense last season.

The challenger is extremely confident, even after a year of enforced idleness, although he knows Anderson is the incumbent. "I understand that," said Quinn. "I have to play as if I'm ignorant of the facts of the matter. I have to play as if it is an open competition."

Brayden Tyler Quinn seems too perfect, a Central Casting creation. He's a Dublin, Ohio guy, from the most illustrious football school in the country, with Sizemoresque looks.

His humble task is to prove a hero, football or otherwise, isn't a sandwich.

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of couse Jules came out and showed an article stating that BQ is lighting it up...and your response is not of one of MY BAD or anything but to simply make light of it.

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Eo, of course I make light of it.. for cryin out loud,, it's minicamp and you and I both know that what we know from minicamp doesn't mean much really., things can change.

Look at things from minicamp to the first game of the season the the day after the first game of the season last year.

We went from DA looking good but not good enough to take over for frye to frye being traded to seattle and DA going on to pilot the team to a 10 win season..

Who knew? So if you consider the way things go and how quickly things change, is it any wonder why I take it all lightly.

Besides, I have no stake in the DA/BQ conversation because I just don't care who our starter is,, as long as he wins.

"We meaning who? RC? PS?"

When I use "WE" in my posts its a frame of mind but usually its talking about the Browns collectively...coaches, FO, etc. as for no competition and DA being the starter I don't exactly get the question. I stated that as a fact - DA is the Starter. I simply stated I sure as heck wish to read about him Wowing US...which btw falls in the same category as "WE"

"I can name only two NFL QB's playing ight now who don't scare me."

Manning and Brady I presume...there are a heck of a lot more in my little book. Take our Division....no comparison in questions regarding Palmer and Ben Roth as QBs not even close regarding with the questions I have with DA...I think in both situations we definitely have the better team surrounding the QB...its not that question. But take either of those QBs - bring them here and they would blow DA away as our starting QB...there is no comparison and that is what scares me!

"I remember you clearly stating that you stand behind all players 100% and that you support the decissions of the front office unquestionably... It seems DA is excluded from this...? Hum... Or maybe I just mis-understood what you represented... My bad. Sorry."

No I'm not a hypocrite as you nicely implied

I support the decisions of the FO...but never Unquesitonably...I know in yours and others who claim in debates that I'm just full of it cause of my Brown n Orange glasses...I am not a puppet with the FO pulling my strings. I have opinions.

Come game day...I support all of the decisions. Prior and after if I have questions I make it. But come game day...whether in front of my TV at home or at the field - I never have boo'd a player on our team. Possibly right after I would definitely have some thoughts...but they would exceed the 3 lettered B-O-O by a tirade of one more Lettered words

But in the end I would always try to think why the FO/Coaches do something, play somebody and understand why. In doing so even if I didn't quite agree - yes I would back their moves!

This however is pre-season and or Post season which ever you would prefer to view it. It is here that I as a fan personally feel its time to question what is going on.

And in fact I support the moves by the coaches and not once do you see me questioning them. I for a fact have been against QB competitions and feel its the one position a team does not need a competition in! In that sense I applaud and back the Teams naming of DA as the starter. But here is where the questions come in...and even the FO/Coaches have stated that there are questions still to be answered by DA - evident by our 3 year signing of him and absolutely refusing to even think about a 5-7 year contract in our negotiations. If you don't think they have questions about DA then you are the one missing something not I.

"Lighting it up at this time of the year is shorts, against fodder, when it doesn't matter, means didilly..."

And there is one thing I'd like to clear up HERE AND NOW. In my post I didn't breathe one Iota about BQ lighting it up. I said how I don't like the fact that I'm not reading one word about OUR STARTING QB lighting it up in camp...it was another poster who questioned the fact that nothing is being written about BQ lighting it up either...which btw does not matter cause clearly its about our backup QB and not the starter.

Its very simple...I am recognizing the fact that DA is the starter...do you see me making an argument otherwise? Yes, in all my infinite football wisdom as a fan looking from the outside in I do think BQ is the better answer. But I am standing by the decision of our FO/Coaches...My fear is that DA is who I think he is!!! My fear is that DA is not showing anything to dispel the questions I have about him!

If he is to be our starter...I want him studding - not practicing on throwing the ball away as his big virtue of his new found status as starter!

As always JMHO

Happy Dad’s day man! Hope this finds you and yours well. Peace be with you all.

Until DA or any player totally blows an/his opportunity, fails consistently, doesn't improve in a normal fashion, chokes or even Ryan Leafs... Then there is no real reason, benefit or justification for any, true, real concern... IMO.

Too much merit is given and viable concern shown on this subject in particular, certainly at this point in time, all things realistically considered to be ifing, butting & whating on the future of DA... It's fine to have concerns and want to see improvement and share those thoughts and perspectives. But the actual value of this, the real impact or factual implications of this type of thinking, worry, unjustified concern has little to no bearing on what may or will happen.

Manufacturing concerns or issues, looking at a situation from a partial or limited view is irresponsible, not acceptable and idiotic, IMO. Again, but's, what if's & how abouts mean poo didilly.

If you are going to repost or requote what others write here please repost or requote all of a point or statement. I wrote that PM & TB were the two QB's of least concern of mine... There was no reason for you to presume or present that you needed too, that those were the 2 QB's I clearly meant.

Much of the above is actually happening and it's tired, unfounded and in many or most cases unjustified... IMO. Yet people still do it... I have yet to read here recently that anyone is blindly and unjustified in their support any player...

Just pointing out as nicely as I can, that you have what seem to be some discrepancies, inconsistencies in your stated, written and or presented, represented, overall views and/or claims regarding you position/s of 100% support on all players and the FO positions, regarding all Browns players and issues... DA is or seems to be an exception, to your rule/s and or claims... JMO's.

"Just pointing out as nicely as I can, that you have what seem to be some discrepancies, inconsistencies in your stated, written and or presented, represented, overall views and/or claims regarding you position/s of 100% support on all players and the FO positions, regarding all Browns players and issues."

I don't know how to put this nicely...but what the heck are you talking about. You are talking about inconsistencies...sorry man, but those are in some perceptions of your own accord about my posting.

There has never been once where I "Claimed that my Positions 100% Support all players and the FO positions" - That is just an outright falacy! This might be your perception of me but I can't be held accountable by your own perceptions???

Geesh this is a weird one

But anyways - happy fathers day too

Here's a similar article with the top 7 players under pressure this season from Sporting News

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=424496



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Which NFL players are feeling pressure in '08?

Posted: June 16, 2008

Every NFL season, several high-profile players enter training camp with a heavy burden on their padded shoulders. Whether the pressure comes from the team, the fans, the media or the player himself, the pressure is real, and the chances of it affecting performance are significant.

This year, several men will be feeling a little extra weight once the offseason (to the extent there even is one anymore) finally ends. Here's a look at who might be experiencing it the most.


1. Alex Smith, quarterback, 49ers. The No. 1 overall pick in the 2004 draft won a Super Bowl in his fourth season. The No. 1 overall pick from a year later might not even win a starting job in his fourth season.

Smith has been so-so at best in San Fran, and an ugly spat with coach Mike Nolan a year ago has done nothing to make folks think that Smith will ultimately suffer a different fate than fellow 2005 top-10 picks Cedric Benson, Pacman Jones, Troy Williamson and Mike Williams.

The mere fact that Smith might lose his job to journeymen such as Shaun Hill and J.T. O'Sullivan sums this one up. Smith is in real trouble. Even if he wins his job again, has he really won much of anything?

2. Reggie Bush, running back, Saints. Bush deserves credit for taking football more seriously as he prepares for his third season. But will showing up for most of the offseason workouts and generally caring more about the game allow him to suddenly run circles around NFL defensive backs, just like he made Fresno State defenders look like blindfolded schoolchildren with their shoes tied together?

This isn't about desire; it's about ability. In two full years, Bush simply hasn't been the guy that everyone thought he'd be. Thus, the pressure in this case comes primarily from Bush himself; the rest of us already know that he's not the next Gale Sayers. Heck, Reggie isn't even the current Maurice Jones-Drew.

3. Jared Allen, defensive end, Vikings. In their riskiest personnel move since sending half the team to Dallas for running back Herschel Walker, the Vikings shipped a first-round pick and two third-round picks to the Chiefs for defensive end Jared Allen, the NFL's sack leader in 2007. There's every reason to believe that Allen will continue to wreak havoc after putting on Vikings purple, but there are plenty of reasons to fear that Allen could eventually be wearing orange again, too.

Allen had two DUI arrests in 2006, and he ultimately was suspended for the first two games of the 2007 season. He has since been clean (or, more accurately, he hasn't been arrested for drinking and driving). But he's still one false move from a one-year suspension. That puts a ton of pressure on Allen to avoid screwing up, and it will prompt front-office types to consume copious amounts of Tums, since they'll face the music if Allen ends up behind the wheel with a lampshade on his head.

4. Matt Leinart, quarterback, Cardinals. The 2004 Heisman winner raised red flags when he opted to spend another season at USC. The thinking was that a guy who craved playing NFL football wouldn't delay his entry to the highest level of the game for a year so he could milk his role as big man on campus. Since joining the Cardinals in 2006 as the tenth overall pick in the draft, Leinart has done little to remove doubts about his desire.

He became the starter in 2007, but new coach Ken Whisenhunt opted to yank him out of the game whenever things got dicey, turning to cagey veteran Kurt Warner, who'd clean up the mess before returning to the bench. The approach was generally working -- even though Leinart didn't like it -- until Leinart suffered a season-ending collarbone injury.

This year, the pressure is on. If Leinart can't perform, or if he can't stay healthy, Whisenhunt (who wasn't there when Leinart was drafted) will likely begin lobbying aggressively for the ability to bring in his own guy.

5. Aaron Rodgers, quarterback, Packers. When John Elway walked away from the Denver Broncos after winning back-to-back Super Bowls, no one expected much from Bubby Brister.

Brister didn't disappoint.

But with Brett Farve riding off into the sunset after, um, forcing a ball into coverage to lose the NFC title game in overtime, the job now falls to the man who was drafted three years ago to be Favre's successor.

Rodgers will say all the right things. In his heart, however, he surely recognizes that his grace period will last for a drive or two, and that Packers fans will grow unruly quickly if Rodgers doesn't deliver.

6. Derek Anderson, quarterback, Browns. Last year, Derek Anderson was in the right place at the right time. Week 1 starter Charlie Frye played like Charlie Brown trying to kick an extra point, and rookie Brady Quinn's extended holdout meant that Anderson got the temporary nod until Quinn was ready.

The lack of any pressure allowed Anderson to play loose. And that, along with a greatly improved offensive line and a solid receiving corps, allowed Anderson to play well.

Now, with a fat new contract, the clear-cut spot on top of the depth chart and a second-year, first-round backup who isn't bashful about his desire to win the starting job, Anderson suddenly has something to lose.

So this year, there's pressure. The challenges for Anderson will be to forget about the occasional interception or one-hopped pass and to ignore the palpable sense of discomfort coming from a Dawg Pound that expects Anderson to become the next Otto Graham. If Anderson doesn't come through, he'll simply be the next Charlie Frye.

7. Donovan McNabb, quarterback, Eagles. There's a belief in some circles that, but for an exorbitant asking price, Donovan McNabb would be getting ready for his first year with a new team. Instead, he'll play his tenth season in Philly, and the chances of having an eleventh probably hinge directly on whether he can continue to perform at a high level -- and whether he can stay healthy while doing so.

Already, there is cause for concern. Despite a shoulder injury apparently arising from the chronic wear and tear from weightlifting, McNabb claims that he'll be fine as he retreats to Arizona to lift more weights and throw more footballs.

With a 32nd birthday coming up in November, McNabb is likely feeling his age, and he's running out of chances to win it all. With Kevin Kolb waiting in the wings, this could indeed by McNabb's final opportunity to supplant Rocky Balboa as the most beloved sports figure in Philadelphia.

Mike Florio writes and edits ProFootballTalk.com and is a regular contributor to Sporting News.

That was a pretty unfair evaluation of Derek Anderson...actually it was really unfair, and this is coming from someone who thinks that Brady Quinn will be the better of the two.

I don't know if it was unfair. I said last year that Anderson benefited from a good offensive line, running game, and receiving corps. I honestly think BQ is our best chance at winning a Super Bowl in the future. But, I also trust that Savage and Romeo know more about the DA/BQ debate than any of us do. I'll support Anderson just like I did last year, and hope that I'm wrong, and hope that he will be the better QB of the two. But, I don't see it playing out that way. I hope I'm wrong. I just want to win, and win NOW.

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It would be foolish to disagree with that statement, but that's not the exact words of the article.

The gist of the article came across that he wasn't responsible for any good things that he did last year. And then leaves off by claiming he could just be the next Charlie Frye, as though he's done nothing at all.

Agree to disagree man, but I still think it was unfair.

I didn't take it that way. He said a good a good OL and Receivers allowed Anderson to play well. No knock on Anderson isn't that pretty much football 101? With Brady waiting in the wings and high expectations from Browns fans I'd have to agree DAs going to be under more pressure this year than last.

Just a minor correction on my part: DA was on the hot seat last season at the end during several must- win, could win games. When he is bad he is awful, and I am not saying losses were all his fault. But they did order extra stink a few times to go around. I look forward to and hope BQ gets some serious looks and reps during camp and season. IF DA can't and doesn't blow coaches away, then the kid has more upside. Haven't seen him enough to judge, but have seen enough of DA to judge. Defensive secondary and blitz/pressure = wins IMO.

I have asked this question many times, on this board and others. For God's sake why didn't the Browns play Brady Quinn in the last half in the "Didn't mean anything game", against SF. IMHP, what a mistake. Go Browns