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That would be unbelievable if we could full that off!!!

I've searched the internet all over, I can't find a single thing about it. My guess is that it is more of a wish then a rumor turned into a rumor by a radio host.

More than likely, you know ESPN would be all over it if it were true.

Yeah, you guys are right ...


let's shoot the messenger.

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Good question, and I'm not sure about the exception.

And I was just working with what was on the rumor. Of course either team could add a lower salary player and make it work out.

Per Davis, I agree. The other thing is that I've heard him referred to as Baron Avis because he has no "D". On this team, that is a no-no.

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Let's not worry about the "perfect" fit. Like you said, he is a talent. Talent is talent, especially in basketball, and playing with LBJ, I have the feeling he would fit in just fine..

You mention he likes to run, keep in mind LBJ WANTS to run MORE, and has been saying it for years.

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i think baron davis would be fine...

he would probably drive mike brown nuts, with the constant pushing of the ball, and the shots early in the shot clock, but to be honest, i think you really need both of those at times... you have the best open court player in the league, possibly in the existence of the nba, why not take advantage of that...

baron davis is not a defender, and if we did acquire him, you would almost be forced to start sasha aside him in the backcourt, because otherwise, you'll be cut and shred by the better backcourts in the nba, and probably some of the not-so-better backcourts in the nba, and take a look at the backcourts in our own division, billups/hamilton, redd/williams, and now derrick rose/whoever the bulls throw out there

not to mention tj ford, who's pretty solid when healthy...

but to be honest, i know baron davis doesn't sound like a mike brown guy, but tony parker doesn't exactly lock down on his guy either, and they run the same system we do, as long as we have sasha (who defended great in the boston series, that's about all he did) as well as lebron, who can guard a 2-man, we would be alright...

i heard this rumor too, from a friend, who probably heard it on knr like all you guys...

it just seems lopsided, i could see this deal being pulled in january, but in june?

but i would take it in a heartbeat, harrington or not...

i think our offense could use a bit of a ballhog, and a guy that likes to run...

people don't take notice to it, but san antonio does quite a bit of running... they do it when they need to, and they do it almost as well as any of the teams that feature that style...

If I was golden state I would want gibson, varejo, and wally. But if detroit offered billiups and sheed, I wouldn't think twice about making that trade. if you get those 2, the warriors are title contenders. you can't say the same if they traded with us for the aforementioned players. their starting 5 would be
billiups
ellis
jackson
wallace
biedris.

I also clicked on the link on sportsline, and it looked liked some fan was making trade scenarios for the heck of it. I didn't see any credible sources confirming the rumor.

Constant pushing is because it's GS...

The Cavs have no half court offense...It consists of waisting 10 seconds and givin' it up to Bron at the 3 line...And we all know what happens then...More times than not a BAD shot...

Look...We need to make a move for a BACKCOURT player...And we're gonna have to give a lil' defense for some offense...So be it...Pavlovick ain't gonna cut it...We need 20 a game from someone back there...It's what we've needed for years...

There's 2 guys apparently available...Davis gives us the option of letting West go...There's 20+ a night AND 7 and 8 Assists...A bonafide ball handler who can finally get Bron OFF the ball and posted up...This offense would take off with Davis here...We get that distributor who can score and penetrate and dish...

Redd...If we go with him we MUST keep West...

Only question to me is do we try and do it NOW or wait till the deadline...

We land 1 of those 2 backcourt guys and we immediately jump into contention...And Bron's happy...

The beauty of it is...We can give up a future 1st rounder and Andy and Zerb's...And still make another move at the deadline with some of these other expirings...If it's the right deal at that time we might just have to sweeten the pot and bite the bullet by adding Gibson to the trade package...He's a solid 6th but by no means is Gibson irreplaceable...

With Bron and Davis or Redd we can do without Gibson IF we can replace that shooting off the bench and get another POTENTIAL ALL STAR in the Gibson deal...If we can do that then we MUST include Gibson in a deadline deal...It will put us over the top...

We're set up to be able to make the moves...Only question is what moves are we gonna end up making...

If that link from cbssportsline is where WKNR got their info from, then they are a little slow. That link was posted in May and the last response to it also looks like May.

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Some of you need to remember this to avoid a vacation from the board.

DinDayton,

I agree 100%. People keep mentioning Brand and other PFs, but I am with you on this.

we need this scoring from the backcourt. I even remember telling someone on the board that sometimes you need to give up a little D to get the O put you over the top. Also, remember that any guy we obtain will also become a better defender in our system. It just works that way in the NBA, especially when a guy knows he can come to a team and contend for a ring....

One of the main reasons I want the backcourt guy, is that he can take care of the ball and game when LB has to sit. When we need to sit LB I want to be able and be more comfortable with someone else being able to put the ball in the bucket for the 8 or so minutes LB spends on the bench during the game. I also think the backcourt player is the best fit, since we have traditionally had scoring drought problems. Elton Brand and other bigs are great, but it's harder for them to put their stamp on the game in quick spurts since they don't have the ball in their hands as much.

Which is why I really wanted Courtney Lee. Plus, that dude does play good defense.

IMHO , unfortunately the Cavs will probably Not be able to acquire a bonefide Stud to pair with Lebron....However, over the course of the next 2 seasons other NBA teams who already have that bonefide Stud will put themselves in a position to make an offer to Lebron....$ isn't Jame's main focus , winning a NBA Title and becoming part of a dynasty is....History has shown that when opportunity presents itself , the Cavs have Not been known as a franchise who steps up and takes advantage....That said I would be (Happily) surprised IF in the end Lebron remains and eventually wins an NBA Title with the Cavs ....

I do not doubt that Brand would come in and make a Big difference, but I do not feel that we would be "put over the top" if we got him. When I say "put over the top" I mean a REAL threat to win it all.

Look, we didn't lose to Boston because of our frontcourt. We lost the series cause we couldnt score enough points. Wally and Sasha were TERRIBLE in game 7. I remember in game 1 we pulled LB out when we were up by like 8 with 10 minutes to go in the second quarter. The game was tied in about a minute and a half. WE CAN"T SCORE WHEN HE IS OUT OF THE GAME AGAINST THE CONTENDERS. Elton Brand is not going to help that out as much as a proven backcourt scorer. These guys we talk about (Redd and Baron) SCORE points and can go for 40 ANY night they step on the floor. They also have taken and made game winners throughout their careers.

I love Brands game, but I just have a hard time believing that he will weather the storm and score the points like these backcourt guys will when we NEED it most...

JMO

there's not doubt in my mind he'd put us over the top, his kind are rare in the nba...

and how can you say our horrible frontcourt play didn't cost us a shot at boston?

lebron was held in check in games 1,2, and 5, and really only went off in game 7...

z was not able to do anything in the paint...

our frontcourt play was just as bad as our backcourt play...

I am leaving LB out when talking about the Boston series. I am talking about the other 4 players around him....

I also am not talking in theories or any of that crap...

I am talking about what my eyes see when I watch the games. Our defense is our key, like we have said a million times, it will almost always keep us in playoff games. When I watch the Celtics series, my eyes tell me that Garnett may have matched up well with Elton Brand. Plug in Redd and I cant say that Ray Allen could have contained him with Pierce having to stay true on LB.

The NBA is all about matchups, and its MUCH easier to expose a backcourt matchup than a frontcourt matchup. Keep in mind your bigs get points just off the fact that your backcourt guys can get to the rim. There is a reason the backcourt players are the guys that go for 40+ more often. In your thinking, RASHEED should absolutely ABUSE us everytime he laces it up against the Cavs..


Another example, look at last years finals. We didnt lose the series due to Tim Duncan. We lost the series cause we couldnt contain Tony Parker at all. He was going to the rim, shooting, whatever. We were lost trying to stop him, and couldn't. The guy was hitting jumpers, so making us come out on him, then he would blow by....