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I don't drink much, but with my situation I'm considering joining the rest of my age group--I'm 24--and becoming a connoisseur of alcohol. I will begin this summer by steadily pacing myself until the point next year--June 19, 2009--where I can outdrink college kids.  just kidding about the last part. I'm gonna attack this problem like I attacked my slow 5k times in high school XC and track--rep, rep and rep some more. Where are some good bars on the eastern/northern sections/regions of Cleveland? When I was in HS I wasn't cool enough to be invited to parties. I was well known and liked in HS, not hated, but nobody liked me enough to make me part of a group...I was a C-level player so to speak. I did go to the bars occasionally in college but mainly to drive my drunk friends home time and time again. Most of those kids, especially a popular girl I fell out of love with from my high school (Ammo may know her), weren't my real friends and really just wanted to use me for a ride. I've drank before but I'm very careful about what I do. Now that I'm done with college I want to make up lost time...like a hurry-up offense...show off to the college kids After I graduated in 2006 I moved back home to save up money because I got a low-paying but steady journalism job in my county. The problem is that there's no social life for young people in Geauga County, so I'm forced to look elsewhere (Lake/Cuy counties). Not even the Catholic youth group route works. Which bars would be a good place to start--I'd probably do a chain of them so to be efficient on my travels. My other problem is that I'd be going alone and most of my friends are gone to college or out of state. If I go to the bars maybe I'll find some friends and that will help my situation. I don't drive when I'm drunk or drinking of any kind so if I were to start this 'experiment' I'd call for a cab to take me home for safety reasons. Thanks for your input. I figured, if I'm gonna have any kind of social success like some kids I know, I have to start working at it.
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What in the hell are you babbling about? If you live there, you should know where to go.
do yourself a favor. Grab a case on your way home, prop your feet up, and drink. Then, after 4 or 5, go to bed. Next morning, be glad you took my advice.
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Social success doesn't come from drinking alcohol, but I understand that you want to test the waters. Just be safe and have fun. The rest will come.
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Arch, he's looking to get out and meet people in his age group. He said he has tried other types of places to go, but no luck. It's not about drinking, it's about meeting people. He also lives in Geauga County, where there is not a lot of places to meet people, so he is looking to expand his search area. I guess what I really want to say, is get off of his case. Asia is a very good kid who is just looking to meet people. Asia, if I knew anyone your age in that area I would try and set you up. You're a good kid with a good heart. Just remember what Michelle said. She is very wise....Well except her taste in woman.  FYI, Jules is her significant other, and she is also a special lady.
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Some people are hard to figure out on here. If Ammo had written this, you would have ripped him a new one. Go figure.
Asia, I don't like the idea of going to bars by yourself. Do what you can to make friends first. Try to make friends at work. Try to join some clubs to make friends. Or take up a hobby where you will need to be in a class setting and try to make friends that way.
Bars are not places to make friends, and going by yourself could be dangerous as well. When alcohol is involved, you need people around you who will be looking out for your well being.
You don't have to be 'cool' to be a part of a crowd. Just be social with the people you are around the most. Say hi to people. Ask them how their weekend was. Start BS conversations. And you are actually at a point in your life where clicques and things of that nature start to go by the wayside. You are in an adult world now, and I find that people are responsive to others who attempt to engage them in conversations. Be yourself but make an effort too.
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I don't know where people your age are going these days. Especially in this hellhole of a town. I'm dying to get back to Athens.
Maxx Doogan's is a ripoff (My buddy spent $14 on 2 rum and cokes last week), Boneyard is pretty cool with a pretty good atmosphere but also not exactly cheap. I'd recommend pregaming and a designated driver for that since you don't wanna break the bank.
Chester Tavern has good prices but it's hit or miss on the atmosphere...Some nights you'll find 20 somethings, other nights you'll find the town drunks.
I'm not a fan of going downtown, had a bad experience on New Years Eve in the Flats which I can honestly say changed me.
That's really all I can give ya since I'm not a college grad.
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Arch, he's looking to get out and meet people in his age group. He said he has tried other types of places to go, but no luck. It's not about drinking, it's about meeting people.
He also lives in Geauga County, where there is not a lot of places to meet people, so he is looking to expand his search area.
I guess what I really want to say, is get off of his case. Asia is a very good kid who is just looking to meet people.
Asia, if I knew anyone your age in that area I would try and set you up. You're a good kid with a good heart. Just remember what Michelle said. She is very wise....Well except her taste in woman. FYI, Jules is her significant other, and she is also a special lady.
thanks for the props. I understand where archbold is coming from...like I said I've thought very carefully about this. I have safeguards in place (taxi, parents, brother maybe) to pick me up if I need to.
My goal is to build up a friend base via the bars so that down the road I can carpool with them and take turns being DD...one night it's me, next night it's Joe, next night it's Bob, etc. so that I'm not always calling my brother or parents for a ride.
A lot of college kids on break that are from my area go to bars but they have established friend-groups in place.
I'm not expecting everyone to agree with me. I'm expressing a plan and I want to appear prepared. It's just an idea--I'm not complaining about my plight; I'm taking steps to do something about it and that's why I use you guys as a sounding board.
For what it's worth, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. I'll figure something else out.
*rant*..not Ammo-like lol. don't worry.
But sometimes friends aren't what they seem. They, or more specifically, this girl from my hometown, only likes you when you do favors for her and her friends and they know that you're in need of friends. That's when it hurts. I'm not going to go on and on about it. But I had to vent here tonight.
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I hav`e had many pms with Asia, so I think I know him pretty well. He is looking to find friends his age. He joked about learning to drink college kids under the table. He also has tried better venues (IMO) like Catholic youth groups.
I agree that bars are really not the answer. A better question would be "Where is a good place to meet people my age?"
My problem with Ammo is over the years he constantly has talked about how much he drinks, how much he posts while drunk, etc... I don't want to turn this into yet another Ammo thread. Everyone on here read and remember what different posters write. Ammo happens to be one of the guys I remember the most. I probably wouldn't notice him if he wasn't such a good writer.
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thanks for the response ammo. i am *familiar* with the area but I don't know where every bar and watering hole is. I have a photographic memory so that when people point them out to me I won't have to worry about asking them again. That works against me also As for work...it's me, a 45-y/o woman, a 45-y/o man, and a 63-y/o man. That's it. None of us hang out outside of work. My boss has a wife with cancer and three Ammo-aged kids (generally speaking, my age bracket as well) (They go to Chagrin Falls HS and their junior-aged son (17) is a WR with a 4.3 second 40. Another story ) Diane is a single woman but 45 and has her own bars/clubs and Glen, 63, has a wife that's constantly ill. They have a social club in ballroom dancing. I've joined my church's youth group as a leader, but I left after one year after feeling too young for the adult leadership team but too old to talk to the h.s. kids. We're in that half-way stage...out of college but not quite settled with wifey, kids, nice job etc. Thanks for your responses.
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Asia, I think your plan is very flawed. Bars are not places to make friends. They are places to go with friends.
Maybe moving to another city is what you need if you are having trouble making friends where you are. There are a lot of great towns in this country, some with a very large young professional contingent. Those towns also tend to have a great bar scenes and nightlife, but you should be able to meet people first. You're putting the cart before the horse, so to speak.
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Is this girl a certain soccer player/all around athlete with a younger brother I graduated with?
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As for work...it's me, a 45-y/o woman, a 45-y/o man, and a 63-y/o man. That's it.
That's all I need to hear.
Now listen to this: "Get another job."
Not trying to patronizing here, but your office environment sucks. Instead of trying to make friends at bars, brush up the resume, and send it out to as many places as possible to as many towns as possible.
Put yourself in the right situation.
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Asia, I think your plan is very flawed. Bars are not places to make friends. They are places to go with friends.
Maybe moving to another city is what you need if you are having trouble making friends where you are. There are a lot of great towns in this country, some with a very large young professional contingent. Those towns also tend to have a great bar scenes and nightlife, but you should be able to meet people first. You're putting the cart before the horse, so to speak.
yes i see your point. like i said, it's not a perfect plan and it may or may not work out. you probably will wind up correct and i'll man up if I'm wrong. But I'm gonna try and fail on my own merits for the first time in my life. I"ve been too cautious in life and now I want to live a little.
I'm smart enough to know that "nothing good happens after midnight." That being said, I'd probably stay until midnight and leave. I like negative criticism sometimes to keep my objectivity honest.
As for Ammo, yes, it's someone you know. I'll address that 12-year-old issue later. I met the girl when the Browns still had Vinny at QB!
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Stubbornness must be one of your qualities.  Good luck with your plan. I hope it works out the way you want it to.
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That's all I need to hear.
Now listen to this: "Get another job."
Not trying to patronizing here, but your office environment sucks. Instead of trying to make friends at bars, brush up the resume, and send it out to as many places as possible to as many towns as possible.
Put yourself in the right situation.
You are right again. He is an aspiring journalist, and a county weekly isn't a long term answer.
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I graduated from high school in 01 and have not been home too much since then as most of my time was spent in CBUS at OSU and then I moved, so take this for what its worth:
a) redhawk grille has a great patio bar in the summer. Lot of good looking older (30-40) women if i remember right. The bar sits just to the side of Quail Hollow.
b) paninis over there in concord next to the redhawk.
c) new, well somewhat new winking lizard in Mentor on Rt 20
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been to the linking wizard in kent. pretty cool stuff. it's on the corner of a busy intersection.
i miss college...sigh.
thanks for your replies guys. i didn't expect to get that many that fast. nice to see the interest. like i said, if i start drinking, i'm gonna start slow.
i'm adopted and i never met my birth mom so I don't know how well my genes take tons and tons of alcohol. but with anything I think I can build up a tolerance. when i was in high school i knew a lot of serious drinkers that could really down a few. at the time I was young and didn't understand. I was trying to get through class without harming myself or saying things that would land me in the principal's office.
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I actually didn't read your intial post close enough. There is nothing wrong with social drinking, and I won't discourage you from it. I will however, give you another option. When my baby sister (now 30) wanted to meet guys, she found a local christian web site. She met her fiance on there (he is a catholic). I don't know how much religion plays a part in your life, or how religious those people on that site are. My sister is very spiritual, but her fiance isn't.
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been to the linking wizard in kent. pretty cool stuff. it's on the corner of a busy intersection.
i miss college...sigh.
thanks for your replies guys. i didn't expect to get that many that fast. nice to see the interest. like i said, if i start drinking, i'm gonna start slow.
i'm adopted and i never met my birth mom so I don't know how well my genes take tons and tons of alcohol. but with anything I think I can build up a tolerance. when i was in high school i knew a lot of serious drinkers that could really down a few. at the time I was young and didn't understand. I was trying to get through class without harming myself or saying things that would land me in the principal's office.
I think you'd be pretty well set after 3-4 drinks. Better to be safe than sorry. I know back in high school I could get drunk off of a six pack on the rare occasion I did drink and I was larger than I am now, now that's just practice.
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Well, what are you into? Like sports bars, dancing, what? As you can see I am in Willoughby and there are a bunch of places to hang out in this area. I have family in Burton/Munson but I haven't really been to too many places out that way except Max Doogans that Ammo talked about.
There are a ton of places to go to in my area (Willoughby/Mentor). A lot of people dig Downtown Willoughby b/c it has a bunch of different types of places. The area is pretty neat the way it is setup. I prefer to hang out in places like Mick's on Euclid Ave by Lake West Hospital. I don't go out at all anymore but am more of a BW3's sports bar type. I like to go get my grub and drink on, watch sports and play a lil trivia! They just built a new Cleats on 306 by RT2 thats a pretty fun place.
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Is it right across the street from the YMCA? I use to go to a place called Delaney's that was at the end of Shankland. The owner use to be a coach (or trainer?) for the Cavs in the 80's. His daughter had a crush on me, which was nice because they had a loge.
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Not the same place. This place is in a little plaza right next to the hospital. The place you mentioned sounds familiar but the only place I can think of in that area is across Euclid and is a Panini's now.
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Just remember one thing: It's not about the drinking, it's about socializing more than anything else. Some people forget that fact.
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Is it right across the street from the YMCA? I use to go to a place called Delaney's that was at the end of Shankland. The owner use to be a coach (or trainer?) for the Cavs in the 80's. His daughter had a crush on me, which was nice because they had a loge.
Delaney's Chase Inn is on on Mentor Ave. (Rt 20) right smack dab in the city of Mentor. The place looks like a little house, and is absolutely legendary to the area. You will rarely meet people (drinkers) that are from the Mentor, Willoughby, etc. area that do not have some story about the place. I love the neon sign they have on the front of the house that says "burgers and booze."
It is a great bar to go to. They open at 7 am for the 3rd shifters getting outta work, and they never kick ya outta there before at least 230 am on a weeknight if you are up there. The weeknight bartender (Bart) is absolutely hilarious. They have great burgers, and also have pretty good wings (Tuesday is 25 cent wing nite).
Its just one of those bars that has so many regulars, that no matter when you go up their, you will usually find a bit of a crowd. Just a great "hole in the wall bar"
Don Delaney and his brother owned the place for years. They just sold it to some old guy a few years back (04?) I believe Don was the interim head coach for the Cavs for like 10 games back in the early 80's...
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Coventry in Cleveland Heights. Plenty of places to find, each with their own vibe. It'd be a haul form Geauga County, so I guess you'll just have to move to Cuyahoga, which is where the action is anyway
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A dingy dirty bar is not the place to look for friends.
Join a club of some sort, fitness, hobby, cycling, car, anything, find people with similar interests as you and work from there.
Most of my current friends have come from other friend which kind of all stems from my buddy Sam, who I met at a concert, we were standing there waiting for the band to come on and started chatting. Ran into each other later that night at a club after the show and sat and had a drink together and found out we both were musicians, liked similar music, and had the similar outlook on what we wanted from life. Ended up best friends.
He was raised here I had just moved here from Ohio, so he was my launch point for so many other friends.
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Is it right across the street from the YMCA? I use to go to a place called Delaney's that was at the end of Shankland. The owner use to be a coach (or trainer?) for the Cavs in the 80's. His daughter had a crush on me, which was nice because they had a loge.
Delaney's Chase Inn is on on Mentor Ave. (Rt 20) right smack dab in the city of Mentor. The place looks like a little house, and is absolutely legendary to the area. You will rarely meet people (drinkers) that are from the Mentor, Willoughby, etc. area that do not have some story about the place. I love the neon sign they have on the front of the house that says "burgers and booze."
It is a great bar to go to. They open at 7 am for the 3rd shifters getting outta work, and they never kick ya outta there before at least 230 am on a weeknight if you are up there. The weeknight bartender (Bart) is absolutely hilarious. They have great burgers, and also have pretty good wings (Tuesday is 25 cent wing nite).
Its just one of those bars that has so many regulars, that no matter when you go up their, you will usually find a bit of a crowd. Just a great "hole in the wall bar"
Don Delaney and his brother owned the place for years. They just sold it to some old guy a few years back (04?) I believe Don was the interim head coach for the Cavs for like 10 games back in the early 80's...
I thought that it actaully had the lettering Burgers and Booze on the side of the building...like the letters were atached to the side of the roof. Now apparently there's a sign...I know of that place but I've never been there. When I was 10 I was with my parents and thought Burgers and Booze was a cool slogan driving by there in '94.
Delaney and Nissalke I think were interim coaches after George Karl's reign in '83 or '84.
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Sounds like the same place, except the Delaney's I went to was most definately in Willoughby, right up the street from Willoughby South High School. Maybe they moved, but you described the place just like the Willoughby location.
I remeber the place very clearly. It was the place I took my wife to on the day we met.
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THere is a Max Doogans in Chesterland and another in Chardon.. Pretty cool places where the crowds range from my age (56) down to 21.
Good food, friendly atmosphere. Definately not a Punch Palace..
There is GameKeepers Tavern in Chagrin Falls.. might be a little on the pricey side for you, but a good crowd with various age groups represented (including yours)
The three kids I know that are around your age in Geauga County have moved,,, well, two of them have.. one to alabama, the other to california, and I'm going to the thirds wedding tomorrow. So I really don't know anyone in your age group up there.
Wish I could help more,, you seem like a good kid,,,,
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Word of advice: Drinking DOES NOT EQUAL SOCIAL SKILLS.
Based on the info I'm hearing (a drinking "program?" come on man...) you're going at this totally backwards. You don't need to build up a tolerance or do anything you're uncomfortable doing.
I don't drink to socialize, I socialize but there so happens to be beer in the fridge, if that makes any sense. And I definitely don't think it's smart to get wasted at a bar before you learn how you react in certain social situations. These aren't college bars where everyone is hammered.
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I think it's funny young people drink to be cool, or to fit in Heck at my age, I drink to keep my arteries clear, my liver working and my bowels moving.....the great dancing I do is a plus for all around me 
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Asian,
Sorry about all these lectures about the ills of drinking...
on the east side, you should go to coventry, you can go to the grog shop, the b side, and there are a few other places, not to mention some great restaurants, and it is an area where a lot of young people live and hang out.
and i know you said east, but you can also check out the tremont/ohio city area. there is the great lakes brewery, matinee cleveland and again, a lot of other stuff and a lot of young people live and hang out there too.
Every Cleveland fan is a diehard fan...everyone else quit watching
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Your one of those do as I say, Not as I do kind of people aren't you?
You really didn't read what I just wrote.
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Any good bars in eastern Cleve?
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