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Does this hit home with any of you ???
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BUSH'S RESIGNATION SPEECH
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> The following 'speech' was written recently by an ordinary Maineiac [a
> resident of the People's Republic of Maine]. While satirical in nature,
> all satire must have a basis in fact to be effective. This is an
> excellent piece by a person who does not write for a living.
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> The speech George W. Bush might give:
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> Normally, I start these things out by saying 'My Fellow Americans.' Not
> doing it this time. If the polls are any indication, I don't know who
> more than half of you are anymore. I do know something terrible has
> happened, and that you're really not fellow Americans any longer.
>
> I'll cut right to the chase here: I quit. Now before anyone gets all in
> a lather about me quitting to avoid impeachment, or to avoid prosecution
> or something, let me assure you: There's been no breaking of laws or
> impeachable offenses in this office.
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> The reason I'm quitting is simple. I'm fed up with you people. I'm fed
> up because you have no understanding of what's really going on in the
> world. Or of what's going on in this once-great nation of ours. And the
> majority of you are too damned lazy to do your homework and figure it
> out.
>
> Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and
> the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is
> in the tank. And that's despite record numbers of homeowners, including
> record numbers of MINORITY homeowners. And while we're mentioning
> minorities, I'll point out that minority business ownership is at an
> all-time high. Our unemployment rate is as low as it ever was during the
> Clinton administration. I've mentioned all those things before, but it
> doesn't seem to have sunk in.
>
> Despite the shock to our economy of 9/11, the stock market has rebounded
> to record levels and more Americans than ever are participating in these
> markets. Meanwhile, all you can do is whine about gas prices, and most
> of you are too damn stupid to realize that gas prices are high because
> there's increased demand in other parts of the world, and because a
> small handful of noisy idiots are more worried about polar bears and
> beachfront property than your economic security.
>
> We face real threats in the world. Don't give me this 'blood for oil'
> thing. If I were trading blood for oil I would've already seized Iraq's
> oil fields and let the rest of the country go to hell. And don't give me
> this 'Bush Lied; People Died' crap either. If I were the liar you morons
> take me for, I could've easily had chemical weapons planted in Iraq so
> they could be 'discovered.' Instead, I owned up to the fact that the
> intelligence was faulty.
>
> Let me remind you that the rest of the world thought Saddam had the
> goods, same as me. Let me also remind you that regime change in Iraq was
> official US policy before I came into office. Some guy named 'Clinton'
> established that policy. Bet you didn't know that, did you? Now some of
> you morons are considering another and more evil Clinton for president
> !!!! Go figure that one!! She wants to take your kids away and let the
> 'Whole Village' raise them! i.e. governmental indoctrination .. Look
> this one up you dumb asses!
>
> The rest of you morons want to be led by a junior senator with no
> understanding of foreign policy or economics, and this nitwit says we
> should attack Pakistan, a nuclear ally. And then he wants to go to Iran
> and make peace with a terrorist who says he's going to destroy us. While
> he's doing that, he wants to give Iraq to al Qaeda, Afghanistan to the
> Taliban, Israel to the Palestinians, and your money to the IRS so the
> government can give welfare to illegal aliens, who he will make into
> citizens, so they can vote to reelect him. He also thinks it's okay for
> Iran to have nuclear weapons, and we should stop our foreign aid to
> Israel. Did you sleep through high school?
> You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during
> the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic
> models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because
> fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were
> simply able to out spend and out-tech them.
>
> That's not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don't care
> if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That'd be fine, as long as
> they weren't also committed to taking as many of you with them as they
> can. But they are. They want to kill you, and the bastards are all over
> the globe.
>
> You should be grateful that they haven't gotten any more of us here in
> the United States since September 11. But you're not. That's because
> you've got no idea how hard a small number of intelligence, military,
> law enforcement, and homeland security people have worked to make sure
> of that. When this whole mess started, I warned you that this would be a
> long and difficult fight. I'm disappointed how many of you people think
> a long and difficult fight amounts to a single season of 'Survivor.'
>
> Instead, you've grown impatient. You're incapable of seeing things
> through the long lens of history, the way our enemies do. You think that
> wars should last a few months, a few years, tops.
>
> Making matters worse, you actively support those who help the enemy.
> Every time you buy the New York Times, every time you send a donation to
> a cut-and-run Democrat's political campaign, well, dang it, you might
> just a s well Fed Ex a grenade launcher to a Jihadist. It amounts to the
> same thing.
>
> In this day and age, it's easy enough to find the truth. It's all over
> the Internet. It just isn't on the pages of the New York Times, USA
> Today, or on NBC News. But even if it were, I doubt you'd be any
> smarter. Most of you would rather watch American Idol or Dancing with
> Stars.
>
> I could say more about your expectations that the government will always
> be there to bail you out, even if you're too stupid to leave a city
> that's below sea level and has a hurricane approaching.
>
> I could say more about your insane belief that government, not your own
> wallet, is where the money comes from. But I've come to the conclusion
> that were I to do so, it would sail right over your heads.
>
> So I quit. I'm going back to Crawford. I've got an energy-efficient
> house down there (Al Gore could only dream) and the capability to be
> fully self-sufficient for years. No one ever heard of Crawford bef ore I
> got elected, and as soon as I'm done here pretty much no one will ever
> hear of it again. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to die of old age before
> the last pillars of America fall.
>
> Oh, and by the way, Cheney's quitting too. That means Pelosi is your new
> President. You asked for it. Watch what she does carefully, because I
> still have a glimmer of hope that there are just enough of you remaining
> who are smart enough to turn this thing around in 2008.
>
> So that's it. God bless what's left of America.
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> Some of you know what I mean. The rest of you, kiss off.
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> PS - You might want to start learning Farsi, and buy a Koran.



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I don't know if this qualifies as satire...but this is actually way too dumb to ever come out of George Bush's mouth.

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I wish Bush would say that so he would cement himself for the complete bozo that he is.

Bush is the worst thing to happen to this country in modern times and has thoroughly screwed my generation as we enter the workforce.

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I wish Bush would say that so he would cement himself for the complete bozo that he is.




I think the cement's dry on that one.

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Bush is the worst thing to happen to this country in modern times




Worst president, yes...but there's far worse things than Bush that have happened to this country.

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and has thoroughly screwed my generation as we enter the workforce.




He hasn't screwed your generation. Your generation makes or breaks itself.

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It doesn't hit home with me. I hold Bush responsible for the senseless deaths of more Americans than any terrorist out there. And write what you will about the economy, but we've seen it all before. Things ARE great when you're spending more than what you're taking in, but eventually that'll come around to bite us in the butt as it has in the past. Heck, things would seem fabulous for me if I recklessly used my credit card and just made the minimum payment each month.

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I would gladly accept this George W. Bush resignation speech and do my best to disregard all the lies within this one writing.

Now for a dose of reality...ain't gonna happen..so what's the purpose of the thread?

Looking for sympathy for Bush?

Let's just hope Bush and his neocon gang don't start another war on their way out the door.



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Gosh, did this hit a nerve with some of you libs??

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Screwed up your generation Ammo? Is it possible that the world doesn't revolve around you and your generation?

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Gosh, did this hit a nerve with some of you libs??




LOL Now that's funny..

Really, the thing that makes this unsatirical to me is that I was under the impression it was going to play off facts.. It didn't.. so I don't get the satire.

Thus, it becomes more of a "George W. Bush scolding Americans" type of letter!


This letter was clearly written at a time before the foreclosures started hitting the fan so to speak. so it's not accurate today.. Home ownership is up but for how long. So are foreclosures,, but you notice the letter doesn't even speak of that.

Scold Americans? Gimme a break...

There are other holes but to be honest, it doesn't deserve another moment of my time...


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Mark my words Ammo... 15 years from now, if Iraq and the middle east is still in turmoil, well, that will be Bush's fault.. forget the fact that it was in turmoil when he took over... however, 15 years from now if Iraq is a functioning member of the world with some kind of democratic form of government, then the fight will begin as to whether George Bush deserves the credit or whether Obama does because he will likely be in office as it improves....

As for our economy, it goes up, it goes down... I'm 42 and the world was going to end many times so far in my lifetime.. it hasn't happened yet.


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thoroughly screwed my generation as we enter the workforce.




Please explain.


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Please explain.




That will be tough to explain. My son is within a year or 2 of ammo. Provided my son graduates (first 4 semesters of college he's had a gpa of 3.97, 3.84, 3.9, and 3.84 - he should be able to graduate in 2 years ), but, provided he graduates, he will be able to choose where he works.

Not Bush, not Bill Clinton, not Obama or McCain (whoever is elected) will be able to screw my son on a job. The only place any of them would be able to screw him would be on taxes - i.e. if they get raised. But, even then, as long as he spends within his means, he'll be fine. Heck, he'll very possibly start off making more than I ever have made in a year.

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Please explain.




Easy, we're entering a grim housing market with no signs of recovering for awhile.

Oil prices are out of control and while some of that is supply and demand, it's our government's fault for not doing enough to get us off the stuff. This is one of those instances where capitalism needs a swift kick in the ass to get moving and do what's best for the country.

We're stuck in a war where we're damned if we do and damned if we don't in terms of leaving, when we had no business being there in the first place. bin Laden's head should be on a stake in Times Square right now, instead he roams free while we're trying to control a country that had no involvement in 9/11.

The national debt is out of control...who ends up paying the bill for it?

Granted, did Bush start all of these problems? Nope...but him and Congress made the problems much worse. He may preside over one of the most corrupt, "in with his corporate buddies" administrations in history.

I don't claim to be a Democrat cuz quite frankly they're both full of it (hell, we should be drilling for oil everywhere in the US)...but since I have to make a choice this November, I sure as hell won't vote for the candidate from the same party who put us in this clusterfudge.

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Easy, we're entering a grim housing market with no signs of recovering for awhile.




Not Bush's fault.

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Oil prices are out of control and while some of that is supply and demand, it's our government's fault for not doing enough to get us off the stuff.




The looming of this problem was present before Bush...he may have sped it up...but it's not his monster...it's the monster of people like him, who think like him...but not his fault.

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We're stuck in a war where we're damned if we do and damned if we don't in terms of leaving, when we had no business being there in the first place. bin Laden's head should be on a stake in Times Square right now, instead he roams free while we're trying to control a country that had no involvement in 9/11.




100% Bush's fault...but what does it have to do with you entering the workplace? The war has zero to do with you trying to find a white collar job.

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Granted, did Bush start all of these problems? Nope...but him and Congress made the problems much worse.




Clarification noted...but what does anything Bush did have to do with a young, affluent person finding a job in the workplace? He has little to no effect on that.

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Actually if he had trouble finding a white collar job I'm sure there are some fantastic opportunities within the military thanks to the war


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The military? Isn't that some sort of bumbling government organization populated by fools and incompetents? Maybe he could get a job with Blackwater. Everyone knows the government can't do anything right

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Actually if he had trouble finding a white collar job I'm sure there are some fantastic opportunities within the military thanks to the war




Ammo, in the military? On which side?

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Ammo, in the military? On which side?




What the hell is that supposed to mean?

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Ammo, in the military? On which side?




I really can't stand the American government, but it seems that you can't stand your fellow Americans, which I find to be much more unpatriotic.

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It means you're an elitist, self centered know-it-all who would not play well in the military.




Actually I don't think I'd do well in the military cuz I never did well in Laser Tag or paintgun fights. Plus the sight of decapitated limbs sends me to the toilet with some chunky, bile tasting former meal coming up.

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Actually I don't think I'd do well in the military cuz I never did well in Laser Tag or paintgun fights. Plus the sight of decapitated limbs sends me to the toilet with some chunky, bile tasting former meal coming up.




I always did great at paintball (love woodsball) and have zero problem with gore after working in the hospital.... but I can't see squat! I have horrible double vision so don't think I don't think I'd do too well in the military if I was on the front line. Always thought about doing PT in the army, but I'm happy where I am


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Sorry to inform you, not everyone in the military is on the front line. It's not like you see in the movies, ammo, so don't use that as an excuse. If you don't want to serve, don't. But the military is one of the highest employers of computerese people in this country. They also need people to fuel planes, load ships, ship supplies, draw plans, they need engineers, heavy equipment operators, cooks....you name it, they need it. Dr's, nurses, clerks, mechanics, etc. Sure, they'll teach you how to shoot a gun, but my guess is the majority of the service people have not been, and never will be on the front lines dodging bullets.

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I'm with you there Ammo,I'm a chicken too.

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One of my classmates from high school got Med School paid for by the military... she is currently serving as a MD for the Army.


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The following is an interesting article I read that was published in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette yesterday. I read it and had to LOL a little bit, because even though I rarely get involved in futile political threads on here I have posted quite a few times (over the years on the old board and this reincarnation) that the Presidency of the U.S. is just a limited figurehead position......

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Analysis: Americans overestimate power of the presidency

Sunday, June 22, 2008
By Steven Thomma, McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON -- As a member of Congress for years, Leon Panetta often heard complaints about gasoline prices. He'd look up Pennsylvania Avenue toward the White House and think that the president should do something about it.

All that power to be applied -- domestically, diplomatically. "Surely the president has the ability to do something," he thought.

Then Mr. Panetta went to the White House himself, first as the director of the Office of Management and Budget, then as the chief of staff to President Bill Clinton. He found that there wasn't much a president could do to bring down the cost of gasoline. The office wasn't that powerful.

In the heady days of a presidential campaign such as this one, when candidates John McCain and Barack Obama are wrapped in the majesty of traffic-clearing motorcades and surrounded by adoring fans, when they promise to deliver great things within days of taking office, Americans should remember that the reality of governing can be far, far different.

Cut through the spin -- think of how many times you've heard a president called the most powerful man in the world or been told they "run" the country -- and the fact is that the president isn't omnipotent. Not even close.

"While we have an image of them as superheroes, they are much weaker and more limited than we give them credit for," said Michael A. Genovese, a political scientist at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles and a scholar of presidential power.

"You certainly could be blinded to the facts if you listen to campaigns," Mr. Panetta said. "They're all about what new candidates can get accomplished. The reality is there are real limits. ... Every presidential election is a period of great hope followed by crushing disappointment."

There are exceptions, of course, when presidents of great political talent such as Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson or Ronald Reagan match their skills with moments of national hunger for change and accomplish more than most.

More often, however, presidents find themselves hamstrung by a system that the Founding Fathers, weary of overreaching monarchs, designed to check, not magnify, presidential power.

Just look at the Bush presidency.

Despite the aura of vast power surrounding the way that President Bush led the country to war in Iraq or acted unilaterally to combat terrorism, recent headlines underscore his limits rather than his reach.

Recently, for example, the Supreme Court ordered that he must allow terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base in Cuba to appeal their cases to a U.S. court.

Last week, Mr. Bush urged that oil drilling be allowed off the U.S. coast. He can lift an executive order banning such drilling that was first signed by his father, but he also must convince Congress to lift its moratorium, which is highly unlikely.

"It is a fairly powerful office," White House spokesman Tony Fratto said. "But we have three equal and distinct branches of government. And just last week we saw one of those branches exert its muscle over the other two."

Pressed as to why Mr. Bush couldn't revoke the executive order banning offshore oil drilling, Mr. Fratto added, "that would do nothing until Congress lifts its moratorium."

Even when a president's party controls Congress -- as Mr. Bush's did for most of his first six years in office, and Mr. Clinton did his first two years -- he can find it difficult to get his way.

Mr. Clinton couldn't get an economic stimulus package through Congress and never even got a vote on his proposed expansion of health care, two of the key proposals of his 1992 campaign.

Mr. Bush pushed through temporary tax cuts in his first term, but couldn't get Congress to make them permanent. He also couldn't get his way on overhauling Social Security and immigration policy or opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling.

Even as he and Congress agreed on a tax rebate plan this year to stimulate the faltering economy, Mr. Bush faces the reality that a president doesn't have nearly as much power over a $14 trillion economy as he'd like.

"We have the image of them making momentous decisions," Dr. Genovese said. "But the story we tell is different than the day-to-day reality. That's especially true of economic policy, where the market has much more power and the Federal Reserve has more authority."

Mr. McCain or Mr. Obama could face similar challenges.

Mr. McCain wants Congress to make the Bush tax reductions permanent, a tough sell at best in Congress, which is likely to remain under Democratic control. Mr. Obama wants to expand health care, which could be difficult if the Democrats remain short of the 60 votes that are needed to get anything controversial through the Senate. If presidents can't do such things on their own, and can't count on Congress to go along, how can they do anything?

One way is to have broad support, particularly in a time of crisis such as the 2001 terrorist attacks. Mr. Bush's approval rating soared past 90 percent, and for a time he was able to get anything through Congress, including an authorization to invade Iraq and the USA Patriot Act, which gave the federal government new powers to combat terrorism at home. It's doubtful that either could pass Congress today.

Eventually, most presidents grow frustrated with the limits on them at home and turn their attention overseas.

"You can do things militarily. You can affect trade. You can establish relations with a country. Presidents generally find out that, when it comes to their foreign policy role, they have much more control," Mr. Panetta said.

Yet as Mr. Bush has discovered, even that power has its limits.

In Afghanistan, Mr. Bush was able to lead a successful invasion, but he hasn't been able to put down Taliban resistance. In Iraq, he's found that even hard-won military success hasn't brought promised political reconciliation or burgeoning Mideast democracy.

"He thought the world could be bent to his desired shape," Dr. Genovese said. "But reality has a way of kicking you in the behind."

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I would gladly accept this George W. Bush resignation speech and do my best to disregard all the lies within this one writing.

Now for a dose of reality...ain't gonna happen..so what's the purpose of the thread?

Looking for sympathy for Bush?

Let's just hope Bush and his neocon gang don't start another war on their way out the door.






Not sympathy.........understanding perhaps. I think this "resignation speech" goes pretty much hand in hand with the article I just posted Mac.

Bush did not start the war. It was an action authorized by Congress based upon the intelligence that was given at the time.

But you and those like you will never understand.......even though it's right there for you to see.

So why waste time on it???

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Ok, so how does this prevent or hinder you're ability to get a job out of college?


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Ok, so how does this prevent or hinder you're ability to get a job out of college?




The economy. NO ONE is hiring right now. No one I know can find jobs right now, and the overwhelming majority graduated from college.

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Companies ARE hiring. They are hiring in all positions. The unemployment rate is low compared to the truly "bad" economic times of the past. If the people you know, that graduated college, are not finding jobs they are either looking for jobs beyond their ability, they graduated with a degree in nothingness, they feel they are too good to start at the bottom,or they aren't looking very hard.

Sorry ammo - that's the cold hard truth.

If, when you graduate, you go out looking for a job with a "woe is me, the economy sucks" attitude, you too will be saying "no one is hiring", while the people that say "hey, here's what I can offer this business, here's where I want to go, and I'm willing to start at the bottom and work my way up" .....they are the people that will be working.

I was fired from my job about 5 1/2 years ago. I was good at my job. Got fired because new owners came in and I was the boss - they canned me for one simple reason: "you were the boss, and now we own the place. We are going to do things differently and we're afraid you being here will cause problems." Gone. No severance, no "thank you", no "good luck". Nothing. Get your ass out of here. They even had a guy follow me around while I got my personal things.

What'd I do? I sat at home and pouted for a month till I realized our savings account wouldn't allow me to pout very long.

I got a job I hated and despised and felt terrible doing. After 2 1/2 months, something completely different and new presented itself to me. I'm doing that today and love every minute of it.

Sometimes hard times are very beneficial in the long run. It was for me. Every day I drive past the place I used to work and I think "those poor saps. I'm so glad you fired me."

Ammo, get rid of the "can't do" attitude, replace it with a "will do" attitude, work your ass off at whatever you do, and then hold on, cause good things will come.

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Well why can't anyone I know find jobs then? Why do most parents/middle aged people I talk to who have sons/daughters my age say their children are having trouble finding jobs too, why do they agree the job market, for lack of a better term, both sucks AND blows? Republicans and Democrats, mostly Republicans for that matter?

It's not an "I think I can" or an "I can't" frame of mind, it is what it is.

You can bet when I graduate I'm gonna attack the job market with an iron fist. I just can't help but think the job market isn't exactly good right now based on what I'm hearing from people I know.

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I can't answer that. What are you studying, and what have your graduated friends majored in?

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I'm studying Media Arts and Studies Management (business of media, basically) with a business minor.

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Well why can't anyone I know find jobs then? Why do most parents/middle aged people I talk to who have sons/daughters my age say their children are having trouble finding jobs too, why do they agree the job market, for lack of a better term, both sucks AND blows? Republicans and Democrats, mostly Republicans for that matter?

It's not an "I think I can" or an "I can't" frame of mind, it is what it is.

You can bet when I graduate I'm gonna attack the job market with an iron fist. I just can't help but think the job market isn't exactly good right now based on what I'm hearing from people I know.




Compared to when? As someone who has fairly recently been out of college, into the real world, and is now back to grad school, (because I wanted to focus on my true passion, music, not because I couldn't find work) I don't think it's as bad as everyone says. All of my friends are between your age and their early thirties, and I really can't think of one that doesn't have a job, aside from a few who literally graduated two weeks ago. Most have degrees; plenty don't. Some work in factories, some are in upper management, and a few of them own their own businesses! I think all but one of the jobs I've ever left were on MY own terms. And the one I didn't was because the place pretty much fell apart due to poor upper management. I've been begged to come back to most of them, but I've decided that I want to pursue what I've really always wanted to. And I'm not afraid to jump right back into the "regular" job market if things don't turn out how I'm planning.


A friend of mine with no college education started his own retail business a little over a year ago. And in this "horrible economy," he is doing very well for himself, and employs one full-time, and three part-time employees! He's in Ohio, but don't limit yourself to the area you're in now. I hope you aren't basing most of your comments off of the anecdotes of people in the Athens or Cleveland areas. Obviously neither have been exactly "booming" areas for years. There are jobs all over the country. Be open to moving to where the money is!

And it's not Bush's fault. As mentioned above, presidents have little direct control over the economy and creating new jobs, aside from keeping taxes lower, which DOES stimulate research, development, and investments.

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shoulda majored in knitting....or something useful....perhaps history, or sanskrit.

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I know alot of people in here will disagree, but I don't blame Bush and especially the Republican party for all this. If you look throughout history this is the way it always goes. At the beginning of a presidents term the economy gets strong, by the end it starts to fall and the next president comes and picks it up only to have it fall again. Bush was no different. The oil crisis was in motion well before Bush, that didn't happen over night. The one thing that has disappointed me about Bush is that he hasn't killed Bin Laden. In all reality though this war is no different then alot of conflicts. Though I wasn't around for Vietnam, the American people reacted the same way to that war, but we recovered. I imagine the same will happen here. No war is good, but they are a sad reality and most can be avoided but aren't.

As for our next president, I feel we are absolutely screwed. Obama is going to win simply because America doesn't want a Republican. McCain isn't much better than Obama anyways. It looks to me like we are slowly working towards becoming a socialist country. All this talk about socialized health care and the Govt. controlling oil is not good. Some think it looks good when they only see short sighted, but long term eventually the Govt. will slowly start having way too much control over our lives.

Ultimately I don't think Bush was our best President in my 29 years, but I don't think he is as bad as people try to make him out to be. I believe in some cases such as oil crisis, he is a victim of circumstance. If the tree huggers would back off we could have started drilling our own oil a long time ago, and thats not Bush's fault. We will see when everyone also hates the next president, because it wont get any better with who we have to choose from.

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Ok, so how does this prevent or hinder you're ability to get a job out of college?




The economy. NO ONE is hiring right now. No one I know can find jobs right now, and the overwhelming majority graduated from college.




Stop making excuses. I was hired for a full time job within my field BEFORE I graduated from college. Maybe instead of crying about Bush and the economy you should be out looking for a job.


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I would gladly accept this George W. Bush resignation speech and do my best to disregard all the lies within this one writing.

Now for a dose of reality...ain't gonna happen..so what's the purpose of the thread?

Looking for sympathy for Bush?

Let's just hope Bush and his neocon gang don't start another war on their way out the door.






Not sympathy.........understanding perhaps. I think this "resignation speech" goes pretty much hand in hand with the article I just posted Mac.

Bush did not start the war. It was an action authorized by Congress based upon the intelligence that was given at the time.

But you and those like you will never understand.......even though it's right there for you to see.

So why waste time on it???




shep writes..." Bush did not start the war. It was an action authorized by Congress based upon the intelligence that was given at the time."

Shep...so it's congress' fault now?

Congress made Bush lie about WMDs?

Congress authorized the use of the powers of war, "if needed". Many in congress wanted Bush to slow down and give the inspectors more time to search for WMDs...but Bush did not like that idea, did he?

Shep, about that intell Bush used to start the Iraq War...do you know the name of the government organization established to vet all intell (from cia, fbi, dia, etc)?

I will make it easy for you since I doubt you are concerned about "learning" anything new concerning "the intell" Bush used to take America to war in Iraq.

The Office of Special Plans (OSP)...established by the Bush administration in the fall of 2002. Their job was to vet all intell from all sources, then send it up to the President and his people.

I invite all to look it up and learn something...just type in Office of Special Plans....and begin reading.

You don't hear much about the OSP for some reason. Bush doesn't talk about it and Cheney doesn't either.

When it became obvious that the WMDs were not found, the Office of Special Plans quickly closed up shop and disappeared.

The Office of Special Plans if a very interesting read, especially for those who search for the "whys" of the Iraq war.

Next time you hear the comment..."Bush just followed the Intell that was provided to him, by our Intell services (cia, fbi, dia..etc)"...don't forget, the last organization to touch the intell before it went to Bush was the intell office he established to vet all intell and manned by Bush's "Intell experts".

Shep and others...another great question after you read about OSP...just what was the expertise of those in charge at OSP?

Read to gain knowledge...if you chose not to read?....

Why would anyone not want to know more?


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