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I know a lot of people aren't fans of PFT. If you click on the link, there is audio of the show... IMUS AT IT AGAIN Posted by Mike Florio on June 23, 2008, 1:31 p.m. EDT Less than 15 months after losing his gig on WFAN and MSNBC for making racially charged comments regarding the Rutgers women’s basketball team, radio icon Don Imus has danced dangerously close to, and arguably over, the line again. On Monday, Imus had the following exchange with Warner Wolf: Wolf: “Defensive back Adam ‘Pacman’ Jones, recently signed by the Cowboys. Here’s a guy suspended all of 2007 following a shooting in a Vegas night club.” Imus: “Well, stuff happens. You’re in a night club, for God’s sake. What do you think’s gonna happen in a night club? People are drinking, they’re doing drugs. There are women there, and people have guns. So, there, go ahead.” Wolf: “He’s also been arrested six times since being drafted by Tennessee in 2005.” Imus: “What color is he?” Wolf: “He’s African-American.” Imus: “Well, there you go. Now we know.” Last time around, the comments represented a partial effort at humor. This time around, it was a matter-of-face statement, with no chuckles, yuks, tee-hees, or ha’s. As we see it, if the comment wasn’t overtly and blatantly racist, then what the hell was it? Maybe we’re wrong on this one. Even so, it was nothing short of stoopid to fly so close to the flame that already burned him once. Here’s the audio. PFT Planet, what say you about this one? UPDATE: A few readers have suggested that Imus was referring to a belief that African-Americans are more likely to be arrested because of police profiling. Reading the transcript might possibly cause a reasonable person to perhaps think that; listening to the audio tends to (in our opinion) rule out any positive spin that could be placed on this one. Besides, if Imus was trying to make a broader social comment regarding the question of whether black men are more likely to be arrested because of their race, he needs to offer up something more substantive than, “There you go. Now we know.” Especially in light of the Rutgers thing. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/23/imus-at-it-again/
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I'm fairly convinced that the guy has a racist point of view...but who cares? We need to stop acting like we're going to one day cleanse America of backwards thinking.
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ohhhhhh boy.
what is he thinking?! I mean thats just straight up racist
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It may or may not have been a racist comment but in light of the Rutgers incident, you'd think he'd tread a bit more lightly when he gets on the subject.
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A few months back when Howard Stern was playing the Howard Stern Chronicles (I think that what it was called) You should of heard the way Imis talked to Robin. People never change. I sure only the PFT guy heard it 
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He's an irrelevant fossil.  Stern RULES! Baba Booey!!!
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Don Imus is NOT one of my favorite radio guys... but, and here's the deal, he says things,, has always said things that were off base, off color, bordering on racism, stuff against Gays and lesbians... In fact, there probably isn't a anyone that's completely gone unscathed by Imus and what he calls humor.
I don't think he's funny most of the time, but that's just me I guess. But I doubt he really cares two hoots what color Jones is...
he's supposed to make people laugh and think... Again, he doens't do it for me, but he keeps getting high paying radio jobs, so someone thinks he's good at it....
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While I don't like Imus, and certainly think he should tread lightly these days. I don't understand what all the hoopla is about.
If it was Chris Rock and they were talking about Jeffry Dahlmer, and Chris said "Id he white?" "Well there you go". No one would think twice about it. They'd let out a quick chuckle and move on.
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The best way to "fix" Imus is to stop listening to what he says. If Imus makes a racist statement in the forest and nobody is there to....ah, you get the idea.
Too much attention is given to jerks like this. Move along, nothing to see but an old played-out fool.
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If it was Chris Rock and they were talking about Jeffry Dahlmer, and Chris said "Id he white?" "Well there you go". No one would think twice about it. They'd let out a quick chuckle and move on.
Blacks have a free pass when it comes to saying stupid rascist things . It is impossible to catch heat for insulting straight white men as it is always open season on them.
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The only way to fix Don Imus is to get the old, crazy, racist butthead off the air waves.
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Ok, I have to tell you... I spent 3 days at a convention in Charlotte last week.. the convention was for the National Association of Minority Contractors. 80+% of the people there were black, about 10% white and 10% other (mostly Asian and Hispanic).. Overall it was a great time, I met a lot of very nice people and made some great business contacts... Now, on Thursday there was a speaker, a black entrepreneur who made a fairly politically charged speech about opportunity and equal access and breaking down stereotypes, etc... It was a pretty darn good speech... later that afternoon, at the Women's Forum Luncheon, a black woman entrepreneur made a speech and she made about 20 jokes in her speech playing on the stereotypes of men. I have to say as one of about 20 white people out of 300, I was not at all offended by anybodys speech and I found her jokes funny too... It's just odd how those things work... 
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Exactly my point FF... it's nuts how politically correct a white man has to be, but a black man can be as irreverant as he wants.. and as long as he's known for being a comedian, it's fine and everyone laughs it off..
Like I said, Imus just doesn't amuse me at all.. I really just don't get his humor. But some people do enjoy him and that's fine..
But for cryin out loud,, when is the playing field gonna go even..
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Damn I thought Imas might have called pacman a "Nappy headed ho"
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There are certain things that you can count on and one is Don Imus making inappropriate comments, racial or otherwise. So its not that shocking and in actuality that is why he is hired. Another thing you can count on is that there will be some poster, ( Ire, Florida Fan and Damanshot) crying about how blacks can say anything and the white man cannot. Even though the difference is that Imus is on the radio and all comics get away with racy material(Chris Rock - who by the way talks about everyone, blacks included), they usually cannot come up with 1 black radio host who has stated anything close to what Imus, Stern..etc have gotten away with for years, and still has a job!! And the kicker to all their crying is that its usually AFTER the white radio personality has made some racial statement!! LMAO!!!!
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If it was Chris Rock and they were talking about Jeffry Dahlmer, and Chris said "Id he white?" "Well there you go". No one would think twice about it. They'd let out a quick chuckle and move on.
Until Chris Rock turns stupid and starts saying stupid stuff, we won't know, really.
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Excuse me??? You're joking, right???
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I believe there's a white comedian named Ralphie May, or something like that. I've seen his material a couple times...He's has blasted black people repeatedly...with black people in the audience...do you know what those black people did....LAUGH! It's funny how some people are so quick to accuse people of playing the "race card", but are completely oblivious to when the play it themselves. Imus is NOT a comedian. Carlos Mencia, makes MANY racial jokes on his show...no backlash. So bringing up Chris Rock is beyond irrelevant. If there's a comparison to be made, try making it between someone like Tom Joyner and Don Imus...but most don't know who Tom Joyner is! Now, on to what Imus said... 
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Ratings must have been slipping. Now people are going to pay attention to him to hear what he has to say about this.
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so whats the problem?
a comment based on a true stereotype that black men are more prone to commit violent crimes and end up in jail....
anyone really need statistics on this? stereotypes are usually based on some sliver of truth.....
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Florida Fan hit the nail right on the head!! When a white guy make a comment that might be racist it gets platered all over the media. A minority makes a joke about the white race and its supposed to be funny? Heck if I used the word Black, African American, or colored, any one of them names and somebody will get offended. It's crap. America needs to wake up and get thicker skin. There has always been racism and there always will be. Political correctness is a joke and people have become way to sensitive. I have never seen a remark about white people blasted through the media, just as Florida Fan pointed out. Why is that? White people are supposed to suck it up while put on their rubber gloves when talking about different races? I don't agree, and that doesn't make me racist.
No I don't agree with what Imus says, but he has a right to his racist opinion. And if we take a look, he may not be completely wrong. If people can't see a difference in cultures then they are choosing to be blind. We all have opinions and views and if people don't like what they hear change the channel or just brush it off. We need to quit this trying to change the world stuff and thinking we can change peoples way of thinking. America's turning into a bunch of whiney female dogs. Thats all there is to it.
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I think the comparison of Chris Rock and Don Imus arent fair.
If you compared Don Imus and Al Sharpton maybe thatd be fairer. Because its getting to the point with Sharpton that when he pulls the race card, its a little bit over the top. Thats what Imus is doing now. Maybe the nappy-headed hoes was a joke, but this is just distasteful IMO.
If you wanna think that way...have at it, but to express it in a public forum like that is unnecessary. I agree that Pacman is an idiot, and has done some really stupid stuff...but to lump in every other black person with it is dumber
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I'm fairly convinced that the guy has a racist point of view...but who cares? We need to stop acting like we're going to one day cleanse America of backwards thinking.
I'm sorry he simply said what half the ppl on this board think anyway...(no i'm not calling anyone here racist...but there are plenty ppl on here that would say this in person but not on the board)
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I think the comparison of Chris Rock and Don Imus arent fair.
I think it is. His show is entertainment, and it's not even good as that. He's not Tom Brokaw or Tim Russert. I can't stand Imus, and for that reason I don't listen or care what he has to say, he could spend 3 months calling me derogatory names and I wouldn't care 1 bit, I'm not listening to even care.
Much like I doubt that the majority of the people that got up in arms over his "nappy" comments probably never heard the show, they read about the comments in the paper, and probably never even listened to a playback.
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I think the comparison of Chris Rock and Don Imus arent fair.
I think it is. His show is entertainment, and it's not even good as that. He's not Tom Brokaw or Tim Russert. I can't stand Imus, and for that reason I don't listen or care what he has to say, he could spend 3 months calling me derogatory names and I wouldn't care 1 bit, I'm not listening to even care.
Much like I doubt that the majority of the people that got up in arms over his "nappy" comments probably never heard the show, they read about the comments in the paper, and probably never even listened to a playback.
Still not seeing how the comparison to Chris Rock is fair.
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I think the comparison of Chris Rock and Don Imus arent fair.
I think it is. His show is entertainment, and it's not even good as that. He's not Tom Brokaw or Tim Russert. I can't stand Imus, and for that reason I don't listen or care what he has to say, he could spend 3 months calling me derogatory names and I wouldn't care 1 bit, I'm not listening to even care.
Much like I doubt that the majority of the people that got up in arms over his "nappy" comments probably never heard the show, they read about the comments in the paper, and probably never even listened to a playback.
Still not seeing how the comparison to Chris Rock is fair.
Chris Rock - Entertainer
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Jim Belushi - Entertainer
Rush Limbaugh - Entertainer (I bet he says controversial things all the time)
Oprah - Entertainer
Dr. Phil - Entertainer (I'm sure some find that surprising) 
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so whats the problem?
a comment based on a true stereotype that black men are more prone to commit violent crimes and end up in jail....
anyone really need statistics on this? stereotypes are usually based on some sliver of truth.....
There's a lot of things I could say to that, but I won't...I'll just let you wallow in your own ignorance! Enjoy it!
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I don't know what black DJs say and get away with because I typically listen to either sports talk radio or country music and to the best of my knowledge, not a lot of black country radio DJs out there..  As for other black radio hosts, they don't typically make the news so I guess either what they say isn't that bad or nobody makes a stink about it when they cross the line.. either way, I don't really care. Oh, but I do know who Tom Joyner is... 
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translation: i cant think of anything to say, so i'll sling a lame insult.
whats the matter....double standard got ya down?
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Were you insulted?
and what double standard are you talking about?
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The fact that he asked what "color is he" set it all up. He was either intending to make a purposeful and extremely blatant insult to blacks, or, he was doing what he claimed to be doing, which was referencing that blacks often get arrested in situations where a person of another "color" may not. So it's not surprising that Jones has been arrested 6 times. Probably for issues that would not have seen an arrest had he been white.
If you look at it that way, then it was a weak and lame attempt to defend Jones. Possibly, in his mind, to make up for his "nappy-headed ho" remark that got him fired in the first place.
Otherwise he is a complete idiot having been fired once for making a racial comment and setting up another one so purposefully.
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no....not at all. i dont get offended on the tubes, mang....too trite.
imus is a huge racist....not denying that one bit. im just trying to view it at face value.
the double standard was already discussed above. not trying to fire pot shots at ya, but i do read more here than i post.
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I don't see any big deal in what Imus said but then I can't say I really did the first time.
Just some guy blabbing away.
My Mom taught me sticks and stones...the only people who should be hurt are real nappy headed hoes.
I don't think any of them were on the basketball team.
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This Imus situation is being blown out of proportion, just like the last one. This has been his shtick for years. Hell he's said much worse on his show concerning religion and politics but yet nobody says anything, but yet people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton can make any comments about the whites all they want and no one says anything. This is a double standard and if their going to make a big issue out of Imus then they should do the same to everyone who makes statements that some can construe as questionable.
As for Stern he's one of the biggest asses ever to be on the radio but he gets away with his crap because all discusses is sex and lesbians. Frankly between the two, Stern shouldn't be allowed near a microphone, the guy is a complete loser.
Oh and yea Imus is such a bad man, this guy has done a ton of charity work for ill children, and has poured his heart, soul and money into his ranch which is for these children (black, white, etc...) but you don't hear about that since it's good press, people just want to hate Imus, and will take anything he says out of context now, just to try and make sound worse then what he actually is.
Oh and the Rutgers basketball team did look like nappy headed hoes, so what. If Stern made that comment but added nappy headed lesbian hoes, nothing would have been said.
Leave the guy alone already, and let him do his job as being a shock job.
Get over it people. People dogging on Imus are living in glass houses and basically shouldn't be throwing stones, because no one on this damn planet is perfect. Let it go already.
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The fact that he asked what "color is he" set it all up. He was either intending to make a purposeful and extremely blatant insult to blacks, or, he was doing what he claimed to be doing, which was referencing that blacks often get arrested in situations where a person of another "color" may not. So it's not surprising that Jones has been arrested 6 times. Probably for issues that would not have seen an arrest had he been white.
If you look at it that way, then it was a weak and lame attempt to defend Jones. Possibly, in his mind, to make up for his "nappy-headed ho" remark that got him fired in the first place.
Otherwise he is a complete idiot having been fired once for making a racial comment and setting up another one so purposefully.
I agree.
Especially since race was never in the discussion when talking about Jones. There was no need for him to bring it up, specifically in that manner. He should have elaborated more at the time that he said it. And then to come out and act like we're all crazy for even thinking he was insulting Jones and black people.
If that was, in fact, the point he was trying to make, he could've went about it better.
But this ultimately is a non story...it needs to rest...and PLEASE don't get Al Sharpton started...PLEASE 
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I don't see any big deal in what Imus said but then I can't say I really did the first time.
Just some guy blabbing away.
My Mom taught me sticks and stones...the only people who should be hurt are real nappy headed hoes.
I don't think any of them were on the basketball team.
The way it came across was that there was no surprise that he'd been arrested 6 times...he's black. Well that may not mean much to you, and in the end, it is the blabbering of some talking head...but that does hurt me to hear someone say that. I'm not taking it to heart though, and really don't give a damn what Imus thinks about black people. However, when he has an avenue to express that opinion to the entire population, that can be extremely dangerous. That's why it's a big deal.
It can taint the views of many towards black people.
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